JAKEY:
Hello Paul ,welcome to the site,thank you for all the photos but i do especally love the BRS wagons or Removal wagon photos , not the wagons i drive but part of my fleet photo attached .
Good Morning young Jakey - and thanks for the comments - had a bit of a rummage in my box and guess what I managed to find!!! Looks like you could be spending a bit too much on polish!!! Do all the drivers get a free pair of sunglasses!!!
pv83:
Hiya Paul, much better maneuverability indeed, as you can see, the 4th axle can be lifted and although I’m not sure about the unit shown in your photo, but most are fitted with a steer axle too, thus making it much easier to get in and out of tight places, never understood why most keep up with the old 8 wheeler design, but as some might say “we’ve done it like that since the 50s, so why change it”
On the subject of Tridems can you help me with this one - as you say a lifting or steering final axle must help in maneuverability - makes sense!! - Then why do you think that axle appears to be the lead axle in the tridem on this Dennis rather than the trailing - I struggle to get my head round this one when you look at how all other manufacturers seem to do theirs■■?
That axle on the front is a tag axle which means it can carry more weight tha normal ,the tag axle drops when a certain weight goes on it ,the cement mixers got theirs on the back ,
It seems more likely that’s it’s a twin steer combo (see attached pic’s) , and that the axle can be lifted when running empty, as Smallcoal said, it’s to prevent the axles of being overweight, and nowadays it’s all monitored by sensors , when the axles are being overweight, the extra axle placed in front of the tandem drops down automatically, with a possibility to lift it when the vehicle isn’t going faster than 20mph.
Same goes for when the axle is positioned at the back of the tandem, than it’s a tag axle construction which can be used as a extra steering axle too.
Cracking pic by the way Paul, don’t see much of those Dennis’ in the flesh!
It seems more likely that’s it’s a twin steer combo (see attached pic’s) , and that the axle can be lifted when running empty, as Smallcoal said, it’s to prevent the axles of being overweight, and nowadays it’s all monitored by sensors , when the axles are being overweight, the extra axle placed in front of the tandem drops down automatically, with a possibility to lift it when the vehicle isn’t going faster than 20mph.
Same goes for when the axle is positioned at the back of the tandem, than it’s a tag axle construction which can be used as a extra steering axle too.
Cracking pic by the way Paul, don’t see much of those Dennis’ in the flesh!
Cheers, Patrick
Glad you like the picture - on one of my wanders round London - always something a bit different up there - I still think the way that most manufacturers seem to arrange their’s makes more sense as far as maneuvering is concerned - having the tag / self steer at the back must reduce the turning circle over if the extra axle is at the front of the tridem arrangement - Volvo and Mercedes seem to put theirs at the back - here is a typical Mercedes Econic Mixer - also in London with extra axle at the rear - plus the lower cab that seems to be becoming more popular in London - part of the safety drive for cyclists and pedestrians
Great to see that Dennis are back in the tipper market - have to say I thought I would never see a British 8 wheeler chassis ever again!!!
Hi Dean,
The Leyland Boxer has not been taxed since 2007 but was not registered until 1989.
Onyx was a French company who bought out Leigh Environmental, now of course trading as Veolia.
Had one of these for a month or two, Perkins 6.354 was inclined to break fuel pipes between the pump and injectors, otherwise went well, carried spares and a bit of basic mechanics(my limit) kept us going sat the road well, better that the Super Comet in the same set up.
Oily
Dean Imperial Tankers started about 1989 i think probably from the remnants of the in house ICI fleet from the then vast chemical works on Teesside, the Wilton and Billingham sites, They were aquired by Hargreaves and now have been quired by the Suttons group. Here is a photo of their original nicer colours not the dreaded white.
My last wagon the unit not that trailer on Progressive Oct 1968, that outfit was an Earls Court show model. Great memories, best time of my life, ta for posting
Oily
I been a bit low this last few weeks but he ho you just made me smile ,thanks for the photo, yes the driver “THE HOFF” is a right poser ,i known him over 30 years since him and me worked on BRS Oxford on the Habitat contract .
He is as keen as me and as you can see spends lots of spare time polishing his wagon.