PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

Hi… This was one of BRS Cartransport’s based on the Isle of Sheppey. The first ones were red with a white stripe and the later ones were white with a red stripe. I worked there when I left school and loved it there. They mainly moved Toyota’s out of Sheerness. Nothing at all to do with Sheertruck’s but based literally round the corner in Cullett Drive Queenborough. Great photo, thanks. Rgds Mark.

Good to see you on here Paul Gee and thanks for all the cracking photos, not forgetting Mark and of course Dean,great work. Having myself spent the odd hour at the road side all over the country snapping I kinda know what it is like tho’ not to the same extent as your good self.
Oily
Harry Lawson at Leeming May 2019, steady stream of HGV traffic there, a very productive hour.

Paul C Gee:

pv83:
Hiya Paul, much better maneuverability indeed, as you can see, the 4th axle can be lifted and although I’m not sure about the unit shown in your photo, but most are fitted with a steer axle too, thus making it much easier to get in and out of tight places, never understood why most keep up with the old 8 wheeler design, but as some might say “we’ve done it like that since the 50s, so why change it” :unamused:

On the subject of Tridems can you help me with this one - as you say a lifting or steering final axle must help in maneuverability - makes sense!! - Then why do you think that axle appears to be the lead axle in the tridem on this Dennis rather than the trailing - I struggle to get my head round this one when you look at how all other manufacturers seem to do theirs■■?

That axle on the front is a tag axle which means it can carry more weight tha normal ,the tag axle drops when a certain weight goes on it ,the cement mixers got theirs on the back ,

oiltreader:
Good to see you on here Paul Gee and thanks for all the cracking photos, not forgetting Mark and of course Dean,great work. Having myself spent the odd hour at the road side all over the country snapping I kinda know what it is like tho’ not to the same extent as your good self.
Oily
Harry Lawson at Leeming May 2019, steady stream of HGV traffic there, a very productive hour.

Thanks for that “oiltreader” good to know I am not the only idiot in the cold and wet standing at the side of the road!!! I will look out for you - that looks a good spot!!! Great Photo!!!

Take care and keep safe - Paul

smallcoal:
That axle on the front is a tag axle which means it can carry more weight than normal ,the tag axle drops when a certain weight goes on it ,the cement mixers got theirs on the back ,

Thanks for the info - “smallcoal” - I know where to come with my technical questions - Thanks Paul

Hot rod32:
“DEANB”

Mercedes car transporter. MarkR normally knows who they belong to. Was it Sheertrucks ■■

The Merc car transporter belongs to Car Transport based at Sheerness on the Toyota contract

Thanks for that “Hot rod32” :wink: Do you or did you drive a car transporter ?

wilkina:
All at my parents house so can’t access them at the present time :frowning:

Ok no worries Al. :wink:

acd1202:
Longthornes of Hebden Bridge

Just as a matter of pedentary Longthornes are from Hebden N. York’s, not Hebden Bridge W. York’s, about 30 miles apart.

Ok thanks “acd1202” :wink:

BonkeyDollocks:
Well Paul, I’ve said this before so I’ll say it again :slight_smile: truly glad you and esteemed others had the foresight to take these pics in the first place. They’re absolutely brilliant and I love looking through them when I get the chance.

Bloody hell Bonkey ,you come out of hibernation havent seen you comment for a while chap ! :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: :wink:

Was it Tarmac or Hoveringham you were intrested in ?

ramone:
Where did the photo of the Cyril Whitley Mercury come from was it the AEC Gazette , it’s my uncle loading it off Nelson St in Bradford after a mill fire

Yes “ramone” it was definately a AEC Gazette of 1966 but not sure what month as i could have scanned that upto about 7 years ago ! :unamused: :laughing: :wink:

pv83:
“Paul C Gee”

Still going!!! A couple of more recent pictures - including one of these new tridem things - apparently better maneuverability than normal 8 Wheelers■■?

Hiya Paul, much better maneuverability indeed, as you can see, the 4th axle can be lifted and although I’m not sure about the unit shown in your photo, but most are fitted with a steer axle too, thus making it much easier to get in and out of tight places, never understood why most keep up with the old 8 wheeler design, but as some might say “we’ve done it like that since the 50s, so why change it” :unamused:

Ta for all the great pic’s mate, much appreciated, especially all those ones about Dean’s favourite… VOLVO F88 :wink:

Cant argue with you there Patrick !!! :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :unamused: :wink:

Mark R:
Hi… This was one of BRS Cartransport’s based on the Isle of Sheppey. The first ones were red with a white stripe and the later ones were white with a red stripe. I worked there when I left school and loved it there. They mainly moved Toyota’s out of Sheerness. Nothing at all to do with Sheertruck’s but based literally round the corner in Cullett Drive Queenborough. Great photo, thanks. Rgds Mark.

Thanks for the info Mark R i knew you would know. :smiley: :wink:

pete smith:

bubbleman:
Hiya,just wanted to welcome Paul to Trucknet,as the others have said and I echo them, a VERY big thank you for sharing your collection with us …I also wish I took more pictures at the time and I was “picky” and took my favorites only but Paul you took loads of interesting motors…well done Sir,I take my hat off to you,plus thanks to Dean and Mark also for their contribution…long may it continue,Cheers Bubbs, :wink:

Bubbs,
You have taken some cracking photo’s as well, so may I take this opportunity to express my Thanks to you as well

This sums up Paul Gee , Marcus Lester and Mark Bailey. All have taken some fantastic photos over the years,and they will relate
to standing by a motorway snapping away ! :smiley: :wink:

Click on page twice.

Some from the Steam Fair.

DEANB:
Think it says L.J. & W.D. Transport on the Seddon Atkinson 300.Anyone recognise it ■■

Blimey, this thread is taking some catching up with! And I see that Paul has emerged from the shadows too - may I add my welcome, and thanks for for all the superb photos!!

Now, this little biscuit tin has fallen off the edge - I’m surprised that ‘Moomooland’ Paul hasn’t clocked it!

L J & MD Transport was the personal project of the late Leone J Donkin, who was General Manager of Pandoro at the same time - a slightly curious situation! LJ & MD are the initials of Leone and his wife. At that time, Pandoro was an integrated Anglo-Irish operator operating its own (P&O Group charter) vessels, about 250 tractors and 2,200 trailers, with depots throughout England & Ireland, so I’m not sure how he found the time to set up a small haulage operation of his own! He started with a pair of B Series ERFs, new at about the same time as a large batch of similar machines for Pandoro, and his third motor was this horrid little 300 Series 32 tonner. Pandoro was heavily involved in the development of this model in 32T form, although their order of 25 were all built as day cabs.

Here it is again on Paul’s excellent W & J Riding website, and I think the only 300 Series that Tom Riding ever operated.

wjriding.webs.com/seddonatkinson300.htm

I personally have fond memories of Leone Donkin - not only had he started at the bottom of the ladder (I was told a trailer fitter) with Northern Ireland Trailers, worked his way up to GM of that same business, and then become GM of Pandoro when it was created from the merger of N.I.T and Ferrymasters (Ireland), but also he gave me my first job as Pandoro’s first ever management trainee, and set me on a career in the industry that’s up to 44 years this year, and counting. Six years later, his discussion with Bill Bowker was instrumental in my joining W. H Bowker without even meeting Bill beforehand. I am forever grateful to Leone for both of these positions.

Was it Tarmac or Hoveringham you were intrested in ?
HOVERINGHAM ■■ :open_mouth: Have you gone bonkers Dean ■■
Best of luck Coomsey

smallcoal:

Paul C Gee:

pv83:
Hiya Paul, much better maneuverability indeed, as you can see, the 4th axle can be lifted and although I’m not sure about the unit shown in your photo, but most are fitted with a steer axle too, thus making it much easier to get in and out of tight places, never understood why most keep up with the old 8 wheeler design, but as some might say “we’ve done it like that since the 50s, so why change it” :unamused:

On the subject of Tridems can you help me with this one - as you say a lifting or steering final axle must help in maneuverability - makes sense!! - Then why do you think that axle appears to be the lead axle in the tridem on this Dennis rather than the trailing - I struggle to get my head round this one when you look at how all other manufacturers seem to do theirs■■?

That axle on the front is a tag axle which means it can carry more weight tha normal ,the tag axle drops when a certain weight goes on it ,the cement mixers got theirs on the back ,

Hi John and Paul.
The axle ahead of the drive axles are pusher axles, the one behind the drive axle is the tag axle. Most pushers are free floating and not tied in with the steering axle.
The road going dump trucks here in the States (tippers as we know them) are 6x4s with pusher axles, single wheel. They handle like crap and when laden most drivers hit the dump valve turning at junctions, over loading the drive axles legal limit.
I haven’t driven a dump truck out here, but drove a ridged flat bed carrying trench shoring equipment.
This truck came down from Michigan so was set up to run at heavier weights. It was 6x4 with a single wheel pusher, and twin wheel tag axle. We ran it at 70,000 lb not 100,000 lb it was designed for. It was an absolute pig to drive with four rear axles on the ground. Taking it off road you had to raise both air suspended extra axles and transfer weight to the steel sprung drive axles. At max weight this overloaded them and proved detrimental off road especially as the ground here is mostly sand.
It was a Kenworth, narrow cab and miniature split windscreen. The only upside was it was fitted with a 15 l Caterpillar engine and clocked upward of 85mph.
There is a good advert on YouTube from Volvo with the 2020 FMX range, showing different configurations at work.

Llan concrete are based in Ammanford nice pic of the Scammell :smiley:,the site is in tycroes which is now penygroes concrete they do blocks out of there which is part of edenhall

An Asda Ford artic :smiley:

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Boswell Bros Volvo from Salisbury. Dont remember this company,are they still going ■■

Builders supply company just off the London road out of Salisbury, three vehicles I think, big in sand and ballast supply.
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Harvey, did you sell this Volvo to Hedgeman’s at Wareham or had you left Princes by then ■■?

No Dean, after my time, Dave was dealing with Eric Pettit then. Harvey

Got to pop out this morning chap’s looking after the old un’s but when i get back we will have the busiest day ever on the thread,so get ready
with some comments ! :smiley: :wink:

Paul John:
Hi John and Paul.
The axle ahead of the drive axles are pusher axles, the one behind the drive axle is the tag axle. Most pushers are free floating and not tied in with the steering axle.
The road going dump trucks here in the States (tippers as we know them) are 6x4s with pusher axles, single wheel. They handle like crap and when laden most drivers hit the dump valve turning at junctions, over loading the drive axles legal limit.
I haven’t driven a dump truck out here, but drove a ridged flat bed carrying trench shoring equipment.
This truck came down from Michigan so was set up to run at heavier weights. It was 6x4 with a single wheel pusher, and twin wheel tag axle. We ran it at 70,000 lb not 100,000 lb it was designed for. It was an absolute pig to drive with four rear axles on the ground. Taking it off road you had to raise both air suspended extra axles and transfer weight to the steel sprung drive axles. At max weight this overloaded them and proved detrimental off road especially as the ground here is mostly sand.
It was a Kenworth, narrow cab and miniature split windscreen. The only upside was it was fitted with a 15 l Caterpillar engine and clocked upward of 85mph.
There is a good advert on YouTube from Volvo with the 2020 FMX range, showing different configurations at work.

Thanks for the info young Paul - very interesting - keep well and stay safe

DEANB:
Got to pop out this morning chap’s looking after the old un’s but when i get back we will have the busiest day ever on the thread,so get ready
with some comments ! :smiley: :wink:

Hey DEAN ,ready and waiting !! been catching up some awesome stuff ,and Hey Paul welcome and thanx for all those gems you have provided us with ,thanx again and stay safe you guys ,MT

MANTRONIC:
Hey DEAN ,ready and waiting !! been catching up some awesome stuff ,and Hey Paul welcome and thanx for all those gems you have provided us with ,thanx again and stay safe you guys ,MT

Thanks so much young MT!!! glad you have been enjoying them - You keep safe and stay well

Hello Paul ,welcome to the site,thank you for all the photos but i do especally love the BRS wagons or Removal wagon photos , not the wagons i drive but part of my fleet photo attached .

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JAKEY:
Hello Paul ,welcome to the site,thank you for all the photos but i do especally love the BRS wagons or Removal wagon photos , not the wagons i drive but part of my fleet photo attached .

Hi Steve ,how you holding up mate nice pic of your fleet hope the family ok