Bewick:
coomsey:
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Red hot summer of 76had sister of this nights down to M Keynes a God send could reach both windows a luxury! Much teeth gnashing in full cab do I carry on sweating /freezing or hard shoulder itWhich engine did these half cabs have in them “Coomsey” ? Cheers Dennis.
ALMOST certain 180 G n 12sp box at 28t gross not too bad Windrush will know for sure. I was rented out to ARC for a month holiday relief so not certain.
gingerfold:
DEANB:
coomsey:
1Had one of these for a while on quarry work n rated it for a 6whlr, they all seemed to have a nasty tendency to want to go straight on around bends. Good warm cab with plenty visibility 6sp box with splitter on top 3 and went well. Anybody know bhp of the engine?windrush:
coomsey:
1Had one of these for a while on quarry work n rated it for a 6whlr, they all seemed to have a nasty tendency to want to go straight on around bends. Good warm cab with plenty visibility 6sp box with splitter on top 3 and went well. Anybody know bhp of the engine?They were very popular with od’s up our way as well, usually ex tossmac vehicles but still did a lot of work. 17 tonne payload at 24 tonne gross was pretty good back then, and most six wheelers tend to go straight on around corners (especially in the wet) so not exclusive to those. Don’t know the engine bhp, they were a Leyland 400 with a blower fitted I believe but they got under my feet a lot and I only had a Gardner 201 powered Sed Ak 400!
Pete.
What had been the Albion Reiver became the Leyland Reiver with 170 bhp from the 410 engine ( originally the long serving 400 series engine with a tubocharger whose origins dated back to 1959)
Thanks for your input “gingerfold” 
petecud:
moomooland:
Cee & Cee had a supermarket in Newcastle under Lyme.
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Here’s Cee & Cee prices in 1973.
Don’t forget you could shop late on a FridayPut that in your pipe and smoke it ‘ALDI’ !!
windrush:
DEANB:
Hoveringham truck and advert.1
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Wagon and pup from Dene Quarry, Cromford. Pulled in at Stonedge (Stanage) just off the Matlock-Chesterfield road.
Pete.
Thanks for your comments Pete ! 
coomsey:
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Not sure if that helps Dean my old gal 73 L reg. Boss put me on it when first driver couldn’t work out box pattern n mine was in for a 5 gallon refurb. One or two noses put out cos I jumped the new lorry queue, as if it were my fault! Anyway given strict instruction not to use splitter cos it was faulty, sod that messed about n found 9 gears could it have been 10 ? On the strength of that left me on her n first driver never recognized my existence from then on, soft sod .
So to the point was there a 9sp box?
I dont know “coomsey” bit before my time mate ! Someone i am sure will know if there was a choice of
gearboxes ? 
coomsey:
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Red hot summer of 76had sister of this nights down to M Keynes a God send could reach both windows a luxury! Much teeth gnashing in full cab do I carry on sweating /freezing or hard shoulder it
What was the main reason for making these half cab ones ■■?
Bewick:
coomsey:
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Red hot summer of 76had sister of this nights down to M Keynes a God send could reach both windows a luxury! Much teeth gnashing in full cab do I carry on sweating /freezing or hard shoulder itWhich engine did these half cabs have in them “Coomsey” ? Cheers Dennis.
I dont know much about them Dennis,but the advert i posted states a gardner 6LX engine. I dont know
if there were any other options ■■?
coomsey:
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Not sure if that helps Dean my old gal 73 L reg. Boss put me on it when first driver couldn’t work out box pattern n mine was in for a 5 gallon refurb. One or two noses put out cos I jumped the new lorry queue, as if it were my fault! Anyway given strict instruction not to use splitter cos it was faulty, sod that messed about n found 9 gears could it have been 10 ? On the strength of that left me on her n first driver never recognized my existence from then on, soft sod .
So to the point was there a 9sp box?
The leyland box was only 9 speed as the splitter didn’t work on 4th ( direct top ) as it worked through the layshaft . I’ve driven rievers with manual splitter and air change and they were all the same , typical Leyland cockup , Dave
DEANB:
One for Ray SmythRobert Baillie Borderer reg PCA 509M
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Thanks to DEANB for finding this “Robert Baillie” picture.
I hope to post it on the Robert Baillie thread. Regards, Ray Smyth.
coomsey:
Bewick:
coomsey:
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Red hot summer of 76had sister of this nights down to M Keynes a God send could reach both windows a luxury! Much teeth gnashing in full cab do I carry on sweating /freezing or hard shoulder itWhich engine did these half cabs have in them “Coomsey” ? Cheers Dennis.
ALMOST certain 180 G n 12sp box at 28t gross not too bad Windrush will know for sure. I was rented out to ARC for a month holiday relief so not certain.
All our 24 and 30 tonners had the Gardner 180 6LXB engine in them, and the 12 speed box of course.
Pete.
rigsby:
coomsey:
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Not sure if that helps Dean my old gal 73 L reg. Boss put me on it when first driver couldn’t work out box pattern n mine was in for a 5 gallon refurb. One or two noses put out cos I jumped the new lorry queue, as if it were my fault! Anyway given strict instruction not to use splitter cos it was faulty, sod that messed about n found 9 gears could it have been 10 ? On the strength of that left me on her n first driver never recognized my existence from then on, soft sod .
So to the point was there a 9sp box?The leyland box was only 9 speed as the splitter didn’t work on 4th ( direct top ) as it worked through the layshaft . I’ve driven rievers with manual splitter and air change and they were all the same , typical Leyland cockup , Dave
Thanks Dave me marbles are safe for a while yet
windrush:
coomsey:
Bewick:
coomsey:
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Red hot summer of 76had sister of this nights down to M Keynes a God send could reach both windows a luxury! Much teeth gnashing in full cab do I carry on sweating /freezing or hard shoulder itWhich engine did these half cabs have in them “Coomsey” ? Cheers Dennis.
ALMOST certain 180 G n 12sp box at 28t gross not too bad Windrush will know for sure. I was rented out to ARC for a month holiday relief so not certain.
All our 24 and 30 tonners had the Gardner 180 6LXB engine in them, and the 12 speed box of course.
Pete.
Knew you’d know Pete, would mine have been 30t gross? I’m asking cos s39 K reg I had were definitely 28t cheers Paul
The main reason for the half cab Dean, not sure no weight gain Windrush says. Looking at posts in Foden model list it seems to me there was too many cab designers at Fodens or one on cocaine 
Going back a way as I’ve not been on for a few days, the Prosper De Mulder Merc and bulker, the trailer was known as a gut tank and as the name suggests, it was full of guts and other kinds of dead animal snot. They didn’t actually tip as the rendering plants all had a plate that lifted in front of the hoppers, which were in a shed, a very tall shed! I once went up in the cab on one and it was not the fun experience that I thought it would be! For fat, hides and bones they used normal tipper trailers or a couple of 4 in line boxes and a spreadaxle flat that ran from Walls at Acton with cages of bones, it was supposed to be sheeted, but the sheet “accidentally” blew into the Thames, it was covered in gore and maggots and nobody wanted to have to roll that out. Running along the Marylebone Rd with a swarm of flies following you was quite off putting, especially around Madame Tussauds, the gut tanks that came out if there were also the worst smelling, firstly it was full of pig guts and that is an evil stench and secondly it had sat all day fermenting before being picked up.
My Dad worked for John Knights, the London side of the vast PDM operation, they had a weird selection of motors in E16, a trio of F86 units, a Scammell Trunker, a Chinese 6 Foden, a 1418 bonneted Merc and then rigids, a couple of LAD cabbed Albion Reivers, a Leyland Reiver, an Austin Laird, an ARC Marshall, a 2419 Merc, a Leyland Bison. All of those were tippers, some with Hiabs. Then they had a few D1000s and Bedford KM four wheeler box vans and a dozen or more 7.5t TKs, some of which were petrol engines. A few skip wagons rounded it off, there was a D1000, a KM, a Clydesdale and a double skip Bison.
Looking back the yard was a lorry enthusiasts dream, apart from the smell and the maggots!
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Bloody autocorrect! AEC!
I also had a ride in a Lindley lorry, not an 88 unfortunately, but an 86, my Dad blew up his 86 at J15 on the M1 and they sent Lindley down to take the trailer to Nuneaton, I think we waited up there until the night man arrived from E16, which was my Grandpa and got a lift home with him, the 86 was a bit of a Jonah, it started off with a claret cab, but the combination of a flat trailer dropping a 45gal drum of oil on the A1 at fiveways and then stopping and my Dad not stopping until the flat trailer helped out resulted in a new cab in that beige primer colour. AFW416K was it’s reg. I don’t think they let my Dad near it after that lol
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coomsey:
Bewick:
coomsey:
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Red hot summer of 76had sister of this nights down to M Keynes a God send could reach both windows a luxury! Much teeth gnashing in full cab do I carry on sweating /freezing or hard shoulder itWhich engine did these half cabs have in them “Coomsey” ? Cheers Dennis.
ALMOST certain 180 G n 12sp box at 28t gross not too bad Windrush will know for sure. I was rented out to ARC for a month holiday relief so not certain.
Thanks for your input “coomsey”
rigsby:
coomsey:
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Not sure if that helps Dean my old gal 73 L reg. Boss put me on it when first driver couldn’t work out box pattern n mine was in for a 5 gallon refurb. One or two noses put out cos I jumped the new lorry queue, as if it were my fault! Anyway given strict instruction not to use splitter cos it was faulty, sod that messed about n found 9 gears could it have been 10 ? On the strength of that left me on her n first driver never recognized my existence from then on, soft sod .
So to the point was there a 9sp box?The leyland box was only 9 speed as the splitter didn’t work on 4th ( direct top ) as it worked through the layshaft . I’ve driven rievers with manual splitter and air change and they were all the same , typical Leyland cockup , Dave
Tanks for your comments Dave !
Ray Smyth:
DEANB:
One for Ray SmythRobert Baillie Borderer reg PCA 509M
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Thanks to DEANB for finding this “Robert Baillie” picture.
I hope to post it on the Robert Baillie thread. Regards, Ray Smyth.
Thanks to Paul for taking the pic ! Robert Baillie pics seem very rare Ray !
windrush:
coomsey:
Bewick:
coomsey:
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Red hot summer of 76had sister of this nights down to M Keynes a God send could reach both windows a luxury! Much teeth gnashing in full cab do I carry on sweating /freezing or hard shoulder itWhich engine did these half cabs have in them “Coomsey” ? Cheers Dennis.
ALMOST certain 180 G n 12sp box at 28t gross not too bad Windrush will know for sure. I was rented out to ARC for a month holiday relief so not certain.
All our 24 and 30 tonners had the Gardner 180 6LXB engine in them, and the 12 speed box of course.
Pete.
Thanks for your comment Pete !
coomsey:
rigsby:
coomsey:
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Not sure if that helps Dean my old gal 73 L reg. Boss put me on it when first driver couldn’t work out box pattern n mine was in for a 5 gallon refurb. One or two noses put out cos I jumped the new lorry queue, as if it were my fault! Anyway given strict instruction not to use splitter cos it was faulty, sod that messed about n found 9 gears could it have been 10 ? On the strength of that left me on her n first driver never recognized my existence from then on, soft sod .
So to the point was there a 9sp box?The leyland box was only 9 speed as the splitter didn’t work on 4th ( direct top ) as it worked through the layshaft . I’ve driven rievers with manual splitter and air change and they were all the same , typical Leyland cockup , Dave
Thanks Dave me marbles are safe for a while yet
coomsey:
windrush:
coomsey:
coomsey:
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Red hot summer of 76had sister of this nights down to M Keynes a God send could reach both windows a luxury! Much teeth gnashing in full cab do I carry on sweating /freezing or hard shoulder itWhich engine did these half cabs have in them “Coomsey” ? Cheers Dennis.
ALMOST certain 180 G n 12sp box at 28t gross not too bad Windrush will know for sure. I was rented out to ARC for a month holiday relief so not certain.
All our 24 and 30 tonners had the Gardner 180 6LXB engine in them, and the 12 speed box of course.
Pete.
Knew you’d know Pete, would mine have been 30t gross? I’m asking cos s39 K reg I had were definitely 28t cheers Paul
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coomsey:
The main reason for the half cab Dean, not sure no weight gain Windrush says. Looking at posts in Foden model list it seems to me there was too many cab designers at Fodens or one on cocaine
Odd truck really “coomsey” ,like you say after reading the Foden thread i had no idea there
were that many different models ! I bet ordering parts was fun ! “on cocaine”
newmercman:
Going back a way as I’ve not been on for a few days, the Prosper De Mulder Merc and bulker, the trailer was known as a gut tank and as the name suggests, it was full of guts and other kinds of dead animal snot. They didn’t actually tip as the rendering plants all had a plate that lifted in front of the hoppers, which were in a shed, a very tall shed! I once went up in the cab on one and it was not the fun experience that I thought it would be! For fat, hides and bones they used normal tipper trailers or a couple of 4 in line boxes and a spreadaxle flat that ran from Walls at Acton with cages of bones, it was supposed to be sheeted, but the sheet “accidentally” blew into the Thames, it was covered in gore and maggots and nobody wanted to have to roll that out. Running along the Marylebone Rd with a swarm of flies following you was quite off putting, especially around Madame Tussauds, the gut tanks that came out if there were also the worst smelling, firstly it was full of pig guts and that is an evil stench and secondly it had sat all day fermenting before being picked up.My Dad worked for John Knights, the London side of the vast PDM operation, they had a weird selection of motors in E16, a trio of F86 units, a Scammell Trunker, a Chinese 6 Foden, a 1418 bonneted Merc and then rigids, a couple of LAD cabbed Albion Reivers, a Leyland Reiver, an Austin Laird, an ARC Marshall, a 2419 Merc, a Leyland Bison. All of those were tippers, some with Hiabs. Then they had a few D1000s and Bedford KM four wheeler box vans and a dozen or more 7.5t TKs, some of which were petrol engines. A few skip wagons rounded it off, there was a D1000, a KM, a Clydesdale and a double skip Bison.
Looking back the yard was a lorry enthusiasts dream, apart from the smell and the maggots!
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Thanks for your comments “newmercman” Nothing worse than being stuck behind a truck loaded
with offal !
newmercman:
Bloody autocorrect! AEC!I also had a ride in a Lindley lorry, not an 88 unfortunately, but an 86, my Dad blew up his 86 at J15 on the M1 and they sent Lindley down to take the trailer to Nuneaton, I think we waited up there until the night man arrived from E16, which was my Grandpa and got a lift home with him, the 86 was a bit of a Jonah, it started off with a claret cab, but the combination of a flat trailer dropping a 45gal drum of oil on the A1 at fiveways and then stopping and my Dad not stopping until the flat trailer helped out resulted in a new cab in that beige primer colour. AFW416K was it’s reg. I don’t think they let my Dad near it after that lol
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Great trucks F86’s ! “Dont think they let my Dad near it after that”
Some pics.
Sun Valley Volvo F88
Tarmac Volvo F86
Trent Wharfage Maggie bulker.
Anyone recognise the DAF 2800 tanker ■■?
Hogg DAF tanker
Jeffery’s Foden tipper
Smart 111 Scania of Cannon’s
Foden of Trevor G Phillips.
Alice Archer & Sons ERF
D.P. Williams & Son Seddon Atkinson 400 bulker.
Jeffries bigish fleet from Swadlincote all tippers mostly Foden then Maggies coal as a rule. That super pic? my mate took at Lount opencast you can just about make out one of their Maggies, n the good looking chap in the scraper me. Still going not sure how many lorries though
Is Lount opencast mine down under in Australia?
moomooland:
Is Lount opencast mine down under in Australia?
Cruel but kind Paul !
“coomsey” i will help you out mate !
Well “gazsa401” look what i found !!
Stirland’s borderer reg KJJ 670K
DEANB:
Well “gazsa401” look what i found !!Stirland’s borderer reg KJJ 670K
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Top man DEANB thanks
coomsey:
The main reason for the half cab Dean, not sure no weight gain Windrush says. Looking at posts in Foden model list it seems to me there was too many cab designers at Fodens or one on cocaine
Mostly for insurance reasons as only one occupant SHOULD be carried, although we did have to fit another person in occasionally as Moose on here would confirm! However the insurance companies then considered that there was only one reasonable escape route in the event of an accident so the premium was raised! By that time, about three years, the cabs were falling apart anyway through corrosion and movement (they were sprung like most Foden cabs were later) and not as strong as the ‘dumper’ type cab with the rearward sloping windscreen such as used by St Ives Sand and Gravel and the windscreens sometimes dropped out when braking hard! I drove one to Darlington for cab replacement with a rope around the outside of the cab door to hold it shut, I couldn’t even get out for a pee on route!! Most of the 30 tonners were converted to the Motor Panels S40 cab by North Riding Garages (part of the Tilling Group at that time) in Middleton St George, Darlington. That gave them another three years when, as Tilcon had a six year replacement plan, they were sold on. Some of them then had a long life with their new owners, a couple of the powder tanks were converted to tippers and ran from Croxden gravel for years and they had done over 600,000 miles, not km’s, (plus blowing time!) when we disposed of them. Our tankers did a lot of distance work so amassed large mileages in a short time compared to the tippers, though they also did some longish runs to Scotland, Essex, Suffolk, Cornwall and even the Isle of Wight. Our limestone from Ballidon quarry was in great demand country wide.
The few 24 tonners we had were short wheelbase and couldn’t be uprated to 28 or 30 tonnes so they were sold after about three years with the half cabs still fitted.
Pete.
Some pics.
Ken Oak transport on hire to Cutlers transport.
D.E.Appleton Seddon Atkinson 400 bulker.
Smith flour mills F86
Lawsons F86 tipper.Damage to near side.
BRS North western Maggie in the snow.
Volvo F88 of C.R.S. ■■
Foden of Dairy Crest
Salamandre Bedford TM
Anyone recognise the DAF 2800
Atkinson Silver Knight ■■? Anyone recognise it ■■ Not too well looked after looking at the pic,looks rough !
