PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

deanb · 11 March 2019 10:07

Spiers & Hartwell Volvo F10. Looks like some sort of tank on the trailer. Possibly water from when they did the Middle East ■■
For anyone intrested i popped a couple of articles about this company on page 298.

Brett Group Volvo F7.

Anyone recognise the Volvo F88 ■■?

British Gypsum MAN.

Haesaerts Mercedes. Anyone know anything about them ■■?

Looks like BR Saunders on the door of the Buffalo. Anyone know where they were from ■■?

Cage Transport Scania from Whitstable.

Ovenden Volvo F86 from Canterbury.

Charlwood Volvo F7. Anyone know where they were from ■■?

bbw · 11 March 2019 10:29

I think BR Saunders came from Walton on Thames area

tastrucker · 11 March 2019 17:07

DEANB:
Dawson Freight F88.

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Guinness ERF

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Anyone recognise the GUY ■■? Looks like he is either stopped in a layby or the slow lane of a motorway.If you look by the drivers front
wheel you can see someones leg. Looks like the central barrier is being repaired.

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Anyone recognise the Volvo F12 ■■?

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Cant make the name out on the MAN milk tanker.

5

Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson ■■?

4

Toleman Group Maggie.

3

Foreign Scania 111 draw-bar.

2

ARC Routeman.

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Conoco DAF tanker.

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Hello DEAN ,thank you for another Goughs and S M Davies MAN ,as i said they have a tidy and large fleet now . Goughs i note have a new DAF xf.
The MAN , Milk Marketing Board ,tanker by the reg could have been based at Marchwiel Wrexham , some of them were sold to Nigel Grocott at Prees Heath ,thank you Trevor .

buzzer · 11 March 2019 17:20

Dean B.R.Saunders are from Walton on Thames and they do a lot of steel deliveries, the F88 has a Hampshire registration so Gazzer or Harvey may know the answer to that one, Buzzer.

kingswinford_kit · 11 March 2019 21:01

tastrucker:

DEANB:
Dawson Freight F88.

7

Guinness ERF

9

Anyone recognise the GUY ■■? Looks like he is either stopped in a layby or the slow lane of a motorway.If you look by the drivers front
wheel you can see someones leg. Looks like the central barrier is being repaired.

8

Anyone recognise the Volvo F12 ■■?

6

Cant make the name out on the MAN milk tanker.

5

Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson ■■?

4

Toleman Group Maggie.

3

Foreign Scania 111 draw-bar.

2

ARC Routeman.

1

Conoco DAF tanker.

0

Hello DEAN ,thank you for another Goughs and S M Davies MAN ,as i said they have a tidy and large fleet now . Goughs i note have a new DAF xf.
The MAN , Milk Marketing Board ,tanker by the reg could have been based at Marchwiel Wrexham , some of them were sold to Nigel Grocott at Prees Heath ,thank you Trevor .

Hi Trevor ,can remember those MANs at Felinfach creamery nr Lampeter ,regards Keith

kenfig_bill · 11 March 2019 22:23

DEANB:
Whats going on here then chaps ■■? If i am not mistaken that says F89 on the door,on a right hand drive ? Maybe its the driver having a laugh
and popping that badge on. The air stack was used on the early F88’s and F89’s. The 290’s had the one with the rounded top. The grill is either a 290
or 89 looks quite deep and the 89 one was deeper than the F88. Could be thats its just had a new grill fitted at sometime and the air stack was fitted
from new. I am sure they popped on whatever air stack they had when building back then,so if they had run out of the correct one they would just fit
one of the others ! The air stack is on the drivers side which would be where an F89 should be and a F88 one would be on the passenger side,unless it
was a left hand drive F88. It does not look like the engine is tilting to the left so you would assume it is an F88. I am confused !!

I reckon the driver was having a laugh and popped a F89 badge on it,when its actually a F88.

Anyone recognise it or know about it ■■? The photo was taken in Poole and looking at the pics it was used abroad.

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Some Welsh motors.

Alan Price Volvo.

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Caernarfon Commercials Volvo. That looks an expensive bit of kit. Probably between £230 and £250,000. Looks like a serious crane on it.

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Tony M Rees Renault.

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Trevor !

2

David Jenkins Transport DAF.

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MAN of S.M.Davies.

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Hello DEAN ! …great shots from S Wales …and good to see an excellent one of Tony Rees …has Paul got a shot of a Merc ? …lol …Geraint

kmills · 12 March 2019 02:18

Gary Charlwood was based in Sandwich. He ran a handful of trucks from the 1970’s, doing mostly traction work from Dover & Ramsgate. Eventually, in the late 90’s / early 2000’s he was in a spot of bother with the ‘Ministry’. By then the majority of his work was with Eric Mattheeuws from Veurne, Belgium, so Charlwood became Mattheeuws Uk, based in Dover.

kmills · 12 March 2019 02:26

H.J.Cage were based at the bottom of Borstal Hill in Whitstable - they started out as coal merchants in the 1920’s - loading coal from Whitstable harbour.
I never knew they ran this Scania - in later years they ran Mercs, mostly on local work, though they had 2 trucks on full time German groupage work, untill they packed up in about 1991. They ran a commercial workshop from their yard too, but eventually it all became houses.

erf-ngc-european · 12 March 2019 07:27

kmills:
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H.J.Cage were based at the bottom of Borstal Hill in Whitstable - they started out as coal merchants in the 1920’s - loading coal from Whitstable harbour.
I never knew they ran this Scania - in later years they ran Mercs, mostly on local work, though they had 2 trucks on full time German groupage work, untill they packed up in about 1991. They ran a commercial workshop from their yard too, but eventually it all became houses.

Hello Keith. I don’t remember that Scanny either! I remember their AECs in the '60s though and I remember their yard too. Robert

stickman · 12 March 2019 12:14

Having seen the Drinkwater tipper in earlier post I know the driver chap called Mark Andrews here is the truck when he first got it at Lee Lane, Nursling Southampton.

stickman · 12 March 2019 12:19

Here’s another of Mark’s trucks an ERF parked up in Hythe library car park my old man used to park his Hales Containers skip lorry here from time to time.

tastrucker · 12 March 2019 14:14

kingswinford kit:

tastrucker:

DEANB:
Dawson Freight F88.

7

Guinness ERF

9

Anyone recognise the GUY ■■? Looks like he is either stopped in a layby or the slow lane of a motorway.If you look by the drivers front
wheel you can see someones leg. Looks like the central barrier is being repaired.

8

Anyone recognise the Volvo F12 ■■?

6

Cant make the name out on the MAN milk tanker.

5

Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson ■■?

4

Toleman Group Maggie.

3

Foreign Scania 111 draw-bar.

2

ARC Routeman.

1

Conoco DAF tanker.

0

Hello DEAN ,thank you for another Goughs and S M Davies MAN ,as i said they have a tidy and large fleet now . Goughs i note have a new DAF xf.
The MAN , Milk Marketing Board ,tanker by the reg could have been based at Marchwiel Wrexham , some of them were sold to Nigel Grocott at Prees Heath ,thank you Trevor .

Hi Trevor ,can remember those MANs at Felinfach creamery nr Lampeter ,regards Keith

Hello Keith ,yes they did a lot down that way ,thier was a creamery at Tregaron and also Llangadog and Whitland ,when Marchwiel closed R F Willis of Gresford picked up some that work ,thanks Trevor

240_gardner · 12 March 2019 16:10

DEANB:
Cant make the name out on the ERF. Looks like Cooke & ■■?

Copestake!

mantronic · 13 March 2019 08:29

kingswinford kit:

MANTRONIC:

Trucky Mc truckface:
And a cracking photo of a Scania Metroplitan. They did not last that long with LT. Rear end body rot. Also they only had 2 forward gears. Fast and faster . Cracking Bus. Shame the body was crap. Only one survives i believe that is with Ensign Bus in Grays and is preserved but comes out on running days and tube strike days.

A little bit about them here
ensignbushire.com/scania-me … -md60.html

Yeah Trucky ,Newport Borough Transporthad 10 Metropolitans and lasted about 12 yrs …and didnt they fly ,used to love them as a kid MT

Hi MT ,thanks for the Havard /Hafod farm info ,i can remember the Guy and a red ERF .
Merthyr Tydfil Corporation had a couple of Metro Scanias ,but were not very reliable ,regards Keith

Keith, the Havard Farm ERF was RWO304G probably ex John Watkins .(says uncle !!) MT

hrs · 13 March 2019 09:05

DEANB:
Whats going on here then chaps ■■? If i am not mistaken that says F89 on the door,on a right hand drive ? Maybe its the driver having a laugh
I reckon the driver was having a laugh and popped a F89 badge on it,when its actually a F88.
Anyone recognise it or know about it ■■? The photo was taken in Poole and looking at the pics it was used abroad.

Morning Dean, yes I think you are right, badges were cheep and it has the 290 grill.
The factory were fussy about maintaining standards ( a name not understood to much these days) and any deviation would take place at the end of a production type run when new updates were about to take place.
The main changes I came accross were due to accidents, missing the pin would need a new air stack etc etc and I remember a cab change in P&O yard your way and the fitter was having the time of his life with “this will fit” so I think hybreds are more likely to be found this way, just my own thinking. Harvey

deanb · 13 March 2019 17:10

■■■:
I think BR Saunders came from Walton on Thames area

Thanks for the comment “■■■” Paul sent me a pic of one of there newer motors.

tastrucker:
Hello DEAN ,thank you for another Goughs and S M Davies MAN ,as i said they have a tidy and large fleet now . Goughs i note have a new DAF xf.
The MAN , Milk Marketing Board ,tanker by the reg could have been based at Marchwiel Wrexham , some of them were sold to Nigel Grocott at Prees Heath ,thank you Trevor .

I agree with you Trevor,there are some tidy looking Welsh motors about chap !

Buzzer:
Dean B.R.Saunders are from Walton on Thames and they do a lot of steel deliveries, the F88 has a Hampshire registration so Gazzer or Harvey may know the answer to that one, Buzzer.

Thanks for the comments Buzzer.

kenfig bill:
Some Welsh motors.

Hello DEAN ! …great shots from S Wales …and good to see an excellent one of Tony Rees …has Paul got a shot of a Merc ? …lol …Geraint

Hello Geraint, glad you liked the pics still got alot to come ! Will ask Paul if he has a shot of a Merc.

kmills:
Gary Charlwood was based in Sandwich. He ran a handful of trucks from the 1970’s, doing mostly traction work from Dover & Ramsgate. Eventually, in the late 90’s / early 2000’s he was in a spot of bother with the ‘Ministry’. By then the majority of his work was with Eric Mattheeuws from Veurne, Belgium, so Charlwood became Mattheeuws Uk, based in Dover.

Thanks for the info “kmills” ! " he was in a spot of bother with the Ministry ! "

kmills:
H.J.Cage were based at the bottom of Borstal Hill in Whitstable - they started out as coal merchants in the 1920’s - loading coal from Whitstable harbour.
I never knew they ran this Scania - in later years they ran Mercs, mostly on local work, though they had 2 trucks on full time German groupage work, untill they packed up in about 1991. They ran a commercial workshop from their yard too, but eventually it all became houses.

Thanks again chap for the info !

ERF-NGC-European:
“kmills”
H.J.Cage were based at the bottom of Borstal Hill in Whitstable.

Hello Keith. I don’t remember that Scanny either! I remember their AECs in the '60s though and I remember their yard too. Robert

Stickman:
Having seen the Drinkwater tipper in earlier post I know the driver chap called Mark Andrews here is the truck when he first got it at Lee Lane, Nursling Southampton.

Thanks for the photos “Stickman” There will be more of Drinkwter Sabeys coming on chap.

tastrucker:
“kingswinford kit”

Cant make the name out on the MAN milk tanker.

Hello DEAN ,thank you for another Goughs and S M Davies MAN ,as i said they have a tidy and large fleet now . Goughs i note have a new DAF xf.
The MAN , Milk Marketing Board ,tanker by the reg could have been based at Marchwiel Wrexham , some of them were sold to Nigel Grocott at Prees Heath ,thank you Trevor .
Hi Trevor ,can remember those MANs at Felinfach creamery nr Lampeter ,regards Keith
Hello Keith ,yes they did a lot down that way ,thier was a creamery at Tregaron and also Llangadog and Whitland ,when Marchwiel closed R F Willis of Gresford picked up some that work ,thanks Trevor

Thanks for your input Trevor and Keith !

240 Gardner:
Cant make the name out on the ERF. Looks like Cooke & ■■?
Copestake!

MANTRONIC:
“kingswinford kit”

Hi MT ,thanks for the Havard /Hafod farm info ,i can remember the Guy and a red ERF .
Merthyr Tydfil Corporation had a couple of Metro Scanias ,but were not very reliable ,regards Keith

Keith, the Havard Farm ERF was RWO304G probably ex John Watkins .(says uncle !!) MT

HRS:
"DEANB"Whats going on here then chaps ■■?
I reckon the driver was having a laugh and popped a F89 badge on it,when its actually a F88.

Morning Dean, yes I think you are right, badges were cheep and it has the 290 grill.
The factory were fussy about maintaining standards ( a name not understood to much these days) and any deviation would take place at the end of a production type run when new updates were about to take place.
The main changes I came accross were due to accidents, missing the pin would need a new air stack etc etc and I remember a cab change in P&O yard your way and the fitter was having the time of his life with “this will fit” so I think hybreds are more likely to be found this way, just my own thinking. Harvey

Thanks for your comments Harvey.

Paul sent me these pics of two newer trucks of British Gypsum and Spiers & Hartwell which i posted on Monday.

deanb · 13 March 2019 19:18

Some news chaps.

Paul is working his way through some very old negatives that Mark Bailey has kindly given him. They are about 40 years old and were never
developed. Unfortunately the quality of pic will not be as good as normal due to how old they are and obviously they have deteriorated a bit
over the last 40 years. However they are still very good to view in my opinion and as such Paul has edited them in colour so you can
see the colour schemes and black and white. I have always liked black and white as i think they are more nostalgic. The main problem is
the colour is a bit hit and miss !

Second bit of news is that i have aquired alot of photos from the 60’s,70’s,80’s,and 90s that are from a collection. Alot are by the photographer
but he has also bought in alot from various other photographers. Therefore you may have seen some on facebook.

They have all been copyrighted and if anyone wants any removed if they are their photo let me know and i will remove.
I will call these album pics.

punchy_dan · 13 March 2019 19:20

Hi Dean I’am looking forward to the 90s photos

stickman · 13 March 2019 19:23

Hi Dean really looking forward to seeing the collection

deanb · 13 March 2019 20:03

Some of the old negatives Paul has been working on. Colour and black and white. You will see where the film has deteriated due to being
stored and not developed for 40 years. He is struggling with the colour but i think he has done a cracking job from old negatives.

Elliotts Foden.