PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

“Oily” Is this Mercedes own truck ■■

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Cant make the name out on the FIAT door ? I wonder if the truck normally pulled a tanker as its looks
like a haz chem sticker on the bumper ■■

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Think this may be one of Leylands own trucks. Pretty sure we had one before with Jaguar,Triumph on it ?

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Had a few of these Clevestone Fodens on here.

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Welsh Seddon Atkinson of Aberthaw Cement.

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United Carriers ERF.

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Your favourite colours “JAKEY”

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Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson ■■?

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Stan Pugh Scania bulker.

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J.B.McBean ERF

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ianto:
I think the Scania drawbar with the load of straw is D J Watkins of Cross Hands Carmarthenshire They are fruit and veg merchants as well as farmers though i dont think they run wagons now .You can see theier place if you come to the end of the M4 at Pont Abraham follow A48 to next roundabout straight over A48 and you can see theier farm and shop to the righthand side

the same Watkins who have Cwmcerrig Farm and shop now?

Yes the Cargo is in my favourite Brs Livery ,looks nice ,even the red wheels .

240 Gardner:

ianto:
I think the Scania drawbar with the load of straw is D J Watkins of Cross Hands Carmarthenshire They are fruit and veg merchants as well as farmers though i dont think they run wagons now .You can see theier place if you come to the end of the M4 at Pont Abraham follow A48 to next roundabout straight over A48 and you can see theier farm and shop to the righthand side

the same Watkins who have Cwmcerrig Farm and shop now?

You are correct 240 Gardner i could not remember the farm name its on the outskirts of Cefneithin where the A48 flyover is.

Thanks for that Dean… I don’t think it was just the Volvo that was under powered… Dave didn’t sound like he was very happy either… 3 hp per ton, can’t get into top gear, and living in isolation at +100 all week would do that to most folk… At Least he worked for Brambles and they were known for paying the right money…
That sort of job isn’t for most people, regardless how much you are payed. We go in and out to do deliveries, but there’s no way I would stay in most of those camps…Even to day Kalgoorlie is like the wild west, most of the mines are transitory, with very little infrastructure. a rough road in, a few site huts and some big toys. Once they’re played out they truck the whole lot of to somewhere else, and do it all again.
It’s very much a clan way of living, if you don’t get on with the rest of the crew, you may as well get out, and look somewhere you do fit in…Quit often there are only half a dozen guys working a site, and the ore is trucked out to a processing plant sometimes 4 or 5 hours each direction.

Jeff…

DEANB:
Thanks for the comments and input from “newmercman”,“anorak” and “carryfast” :wink:

:smiley:

Don’t worry- these hell/vehicle development/handcart arguments flare up occasionally, then die out again, like a pint of diesel on a pile of damp pallets.

Jeff, the biggest factor for me in terms of performance and mpg is the wind, how does that effect you lot out in the bush? I’m assuming the prairies, steppes and plains are similar in that respect, a crosswind over 10mph and I lose a mpg and start splitting gears to get over a small ride, as the wind gets stronger more and more of my hard earned goes out of the stacks and if it’s really bad, 30mph plus, I can struggle to get into top gear at full weight.

Does that increase exponentially with each trailer you add?

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DEANB:
Some from the dodgy folder.

ERF

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Volvo F86.

8

Volvo F86.

7

ERF.

6

Volvo F88.

5

Foreign FIAT.

4

GUY big J

3

Atkinson.

2

ERF tipper.

1

Ford block carrier.

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Hi Dean ,the second ERF down ,looks like D F Coleman of Cinderford ,regards Keith

newmercman:
Jeff, the biggest factor for me in terms of performance and mpg is the wind, how does that effect you lot out in the bush? I’m assuming the prairies, steppes and plains are similar in that respect, a crosswind over 10mph and I lose a mpg and start splitting gears to get over a small ride, as the wind gets stronger more and more of my hard earned goes out of the stacks and if it’s really bad, 30mph plus, I can struggle to get into top gear at full weight.

Does that increase exponentially with each trailer you add?

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In short … yes more trailers more hassle… up to about 65 tons or 10 hp per ton everything groovy… once you get over that it goes down hill fast… Once your up to 90 tons ( Especially with a long diff ) 0 to 90kph about 6 to 8 k’s on the flat. fat chance if there’s any kind of hinderance… hills wind , tourist et…

MPG … funny you should mention that … in all the years I’ve been here only one ( half arssed ) company has been anywhere near interested in that…The boss of that company said he was trying to base his transport ethics on the ( in his words " Legendary Eddie Stobart" ) Considering what it was like for the companies I worked for in Europe, where every one was trying to squeeze every last meter out of a litre…down here no one seems to care

Yeh cross winds and head winds knock the crap out of us… Many years ago I had an old Louisville ( ■■■■■■■ Big Cam 450 no less )and was doing Adelaide Perth with it. back in the days when you do triples on that route. Coming back across the Nullabor ( Big empty space of nothing ) a bit like southern Arizona New Mexico but flat and with very little of anything other that that constant cross wind that blows of the southern ocean… IPEC decided that my load was 2 trailers with flat steel, which are full weight so they have to go at the front, bringing up the rear is a box van with 7 ton in it… As I was getting near the S/A border I was doing less than 30 kph and thinking I would have to dump the trailers and go and get fuel.

More recently we did a job running heavy 20 foot boxes, 4 at a time on BAB quads from Broom to MT Isa, just under 3000k’s each way. so if you can imagine that’s truck cab - massive space 20 foot box - another massive space 20 foot box - an even bigger space etc etc…124 ton into a head wind most of the way. I had my old K1 with the low diffs in it,it was only geared for 90kph at that time Its’ got the executive cab pack as it used to be the bosses own truck so it has the engine telemetry … at one point it was doing under 50kph and just managing 240 meters to the litre… I had to double take as I thought it was doing 2.4 k’s to the litre which I thought would have been exceptionally good … However considering that one guy ( mug ) was doing the job with one truck where as in Europe it would have been 4 trucks and 4 drivers to pay… then, averaging 1.5 to the litre is pretty good and I was doing over 6000 k’s a week loaded both ways … MPG doesn’t really come into it that much… besides it’s the boss that pays for the fuel I just phone him up at 3 in the morning and tell him how much of his money I’ve just spent … 1800 litres on the truck and another 2000 liters in the belly tanks …

I think the ethic here is more along the lines of work achieved, or tonnage shifted per litre…however if it was my own truck I think I would be looking for fuel economy. I did have a good look at putting my own truck on when I first arrived here but the rates I was getting quoted were on the bottom side of suicidal. I know I was making more money with an airbrush and a few pots of paint than some folk with trucks, and I’ve seen many go to the wall in spectacular fashion, just because they wanted their own name on the door of a truck.

Sorry to hi jack your great thread Dean …but NMM started it… I’m only being polite and answering him.lol…

Jeff…

Chris Webb:
Morning Dean.

I would say it’s an owner operator running an ex Thomas Allen of Stanford - le - Hope or Crow Carrying from Barking Scammell. There’s no signwriting on the vehicle but it does have that “OO” Essex C C reg plate. The trailer looks like a spirit tank and looks very Crow Carryingish with the blue panel on the side.Of course,Clapcotts of Poole and Totton fame ran wagons in that livery……………… :grimacing:
Will that do? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Just to update this post,the Scammell Trunker is ex Mobil and has been preserved. :smiley:

Photo here flickr.com/photos/79842765@N07/29339199145/
Oily

JAKEY:
Yes the Cargo is in my favourite Brs Livery ,looks nice ,even the red wheels .

:wink:

ianto:

240 Gardner:
I think the Scania drawbar with the load of straw is D J Watkins of Cross Hands Carmarthenshire They are fruit and veg merchants as well as farmers though i dont think they run wagons now .You can see theier place if you come to the end of the M4 at Pont Abraham follow A48 to next roundabout straight over A48 and you can see theier farm and shop to the righthand side.

the same Watkins who have Cwmcerrig Farm and shop now?

You are correct 240 Gardner i could not remember the farm name its on the outskirts of Cefneithin where the A48 flyover is.

Thanks for the comments “ianto” and “240 Gardner” :smiley:

Jelliot:
Thanks for that Dean… I don’t think it was just the Volvo that was under powered… Dave didn’t sound like he was very happy either… 3 hp per ton, can’t get into top gear, and living in isolation at +100 all week would do that to most folk… At Least he worked for Brambles and they were known for paying the right money…
That sort of job isn’t for most people, regardless how much you are payed. We go in and out to do deliveries, but there’s no way I would stay in most of those camps…Even to day Kalgoorlie is like the wild west, most of the mines are transitory, with very little infrastructure. a rough road in, a few site huts and some big toys. Once they’re played out they truck the whole lot of to somewhere else, and do it all again.
It’s very much a clan way of living, if you don’t get on with the rest of the crew, you may as well get out, and look somewhere you do fit in…Quit often there are only half a dozen guys working a site, and the ore is trucked out to a processing plant sometimes 4 or 5 hours each direction.
Jeff…

Jeff, you are right the driver did not seem to be the happiest fella !! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Re the Volvo that would have been one of the most powerful trucks available then from Europe.
What was the normal bhp in the American trucks around 1981 out of intrest ?

Thanks for the comments “anorak”, “newmercman” :wink:

kingswinford kit:
Some from the dodgy folder.
ERF.

Hi Dean ,the second ERF down ,looks like D F Coleman of Cinderford ,regards Keith

Thanks Keith for the name. :wink:

oiltreader:
Morning Dean.
I would say it’s an owner operator running an ex Thomas Allen of Stanford - le - Hope or Crow Carrying from Barking Scammell. There’s no signwriting on the vehicle but it does have that “OO” Essex C C reg plate. The trailer looks like a spirit tank and looks very Crow Carryingish with the blue panel on the side.Of course,Clapcotts of Poole and Totton fame ran wagons in that livery……………… :grimacing:
Will that do? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Just to update this post,the Scammell Trunker is ex Mobil and has been preserved. :smiley:

Photo here flickr.com/photos/79842765@N07/29339199145/
Oily
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Looks good in that pic Oily,thanks for posting. :wink:

J.B.McBean ERF

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Jock McBean was a true gentleman I met him several times when I was at Stirlands
Stirlands subbed a lot of work to McBeans especially pet food and we often picked up a return load when on “scotch”
Cheers Gary

gazsa401:
J.B.McBean ERF
Jock McBean was a true gentleman I met him several times when I was at Stirlands
Stirlands subbed a lot of work to McBeans especially pet food and we often picked up a return load when on “scotch”
Cheers Gary

Nice pic Gary,thanks for posting. :smiley:

Good evening all,

#connections


back on page 266 Dean posted an F7 (above) and asked if anyone knew of it, i am fairly positive that it was either owned by or contracted to Byrail Limestone who ran out of Chickenhall Lane in Eastleigh.

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As the name suggests Limestone from the Mendips was moved up by rail to Eastleigh and distributed locally, I believe that the Company was part of the Foster Yeoman camp who owned the large Torworks Quarry just outside Frome.
I am aware of at least 2 subbies running out of the Depot in Eastleigh but not in Byrail colours. When the Depot shut the Contractors were put out of work and one of the drivers, Dave ■■, went to join Portsmouth Car Deliveries as a fitter, one of their AEC’s appears on page 279


Whilst he was in the workshops he took an old beat up AEC and worked on it in his spare time, the Manager at the time said if he could get it roadworthy without too much expense he could go back on the road. well he did get it back on the road and had even added a sleeper pod to it. this vehicle appears on another page (sorry number escapes me)

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regards

Colin

Colin where you been, about the F7 tipper on Byrail I always thought that motor was run by Tony Hilton but I may be wrong, Buzzer

Tidy Kenworths.

Click on pages twice to read.

Tidy Kenworth,looks like a fair old climb its on.

Is the car a Transam ■■ It looks identical to the one that James Gardner drove in the Rockford Files ! :laughing: :laughing:

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Peterbilt.

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Ford

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Mack.

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You get used to seeing American trucks with large sleepers so when you see a day cab one it looks odd.

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Smart Peterbilt.

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Good looking Peterbilt with some serious stacks.

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International.

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Anyone know what make this one is ■■?

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Freightliner.

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Poole Harbour Commissioners DAF

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Hills Volvo.

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Sissons Foden.

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Youngs DAF

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Maxi Volvo.

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Anyone recognise the Foden ■■?

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Another company sadly no longer in business F.V.Bugler from Poole.

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Pickfords Volvo.

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Turners ERF.

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D.Nagington Scania.

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Lucas GUY big J

A.M.Chemicals ERF

Wrekin Scammell Contractor.

Fastline Volvo F86

Farmers Table Roadtrain.

Arthur Read Volvo F86

Eric Vick ERF

Fielding Transport Volvo F7 bulker.

Sea Route Ferry Scania.

Allen Wales Scania

Buzzer:
Colin where you been, about the F7 tipper on Byrail I always thought that motor was run by Tony Hilton but I may be wrong, Buzzer

Evening John, been around but not had much input for a year or so. Hope you ok?

Tony Hiltons trucks had blue mudguards, fuel tanks etc and the base colour was much paler! not a great picture but here is one of his.

regards

Colin