moomooland:
DEANB:
Bewick:
Those Mammoth Minors turned out to be a disaster IIRC.Thanks for your comments Dennis ! I may be wrong but i seem to remember one of the large tanker
operators,shell,esso or someone operated them ■■10There were quite a few of the disastrous Mammoth Minors about back in the day.
Yes, Dennis is getting more and more like Carryfast by the day. 
Paul John:
Punchy Dan:
Looks like there’s a Foden behind John wards 88 pushing him on a straight barDan, what ever is following the blue 88 is in Andrew Coopers way as he wants to pass them all.
Reminds me of a story I heard back in the eighties. This old guy was in his Morris 1000 one Sunday afternoon taking a nice run out when it conks out. He’s under the bonnet scratching his head, can’t work out what’s wrong. This young kid in a RS 2000 stops to see if he could help. The old man asks if he could tow him back to the house. No problem they put a rope on and off they go. About five minutes into the journey the kid in the RS spots a Dolamite Sprint and decides to chase after him. Totally forgets about the car he’s towing. Couple of guys enjoying a pint in the local beer garden, cant believe what they are seeing. They shout to their mates telling them, there’s a RS 2000 out here chasing a Dolamite Sprint and a guy hanging out the window of a Morris 1000 flashing his lights and banging his horn trying to pass them.
Classic!
I remember that day on Shap very well, being authentic and re-creating the old days I was in “Aberdeen overdrive” coming down the hill before the climb and got to the bridge in the hollow at about 65 mph when some photographer in a car in front of me slowed down to get a photo. He cost me about 35 mph and 3 gears on the climb. Happy Days 
Some pics.
M & W.N Todd from Penrith,Scania.
Hinchcliffe Borderer.
Jacksons of Hull, DAF
Ritsons ERF from Liverpool.
Frank W.L. Ellis Borderer,looks a tidy outfit.
A.M.Garage,Birmingham Guy with forklift carrying trailer.
Anyone recognise this Guy ■■?
Anyone recognise the AEC ■■?
P.S.A. transport Scania from Tilbury.
Maguire transport MAN
DEAN don’t have any pics of my converted Mamoth Minor, why did we not take pictures back then. But here is a picture me & my Mandator only one year old when I was working for a round timber haulier before I branched out on my own account with the MM, good motor but was not painted in the firms colours as preasure of work did not permit that and the motor was a ■■■■■■ back and came from a Birmingham OD, allegedly it was used to nick a load of copper tube but the fella got caught and his wife had to dispose of the truck, happened even back then, Buzzer
gingerfold:
moomooland:
DEANB:
Bewick:
Those Mammoth Minors turned out to be a disaster IIRC.Thanks for your comments Dennis ! I may be wrong but i seem to remember one of the large tanker
operators,shell,esso or someone operated them ■■10There were quite a few of the disastrous Mammoth Minors about back in the day.
Yes, Dennis is getting more and more like Carryfast by the day.
Harsh but fair “gingerfold” !! 
moomooland:
DEANB:
Bewick:
Those Mammoth Minors turned out to be a disaster IIRC.Thanks for your comments Dennis ! I may be wrong but i seem to remember one of the large tanker
operators,shell,esso or someone operated them ■■10There were quite a few of the disastrous Mammoth Minors about back in the day.
Thanks for the pics Paul, i thought i wasnt imagining it !
gingerfold:
Bewick:
ramone:
The H.Bakers Mammoth Minor gave problems , apparently it threw flames from the exhaust according to one of their drivers who is sadly no longer with us. It went back to Tillotsons in Bradford but they couldn`t cure it. The 4 x 2 Mandator loading bales was eventually sold to B.Holmes waste paper in Bradford and my dad drove it . By this time it was 10 years old and past its best , it was a regular over the M62 running at full weight to RamsbottomThe idea was brilliant “ramone” and on the face of it was economical just using the fron’t end( and one drive axle) of an MM but in practice the engine and its ancillary equipment sunk it ! Plus British Leyland were arrogant [zb] so they got “theirs” and were wiped out by a combination of Atkis, ERF’s and the Scandinavians ! eventually the Scandinavians came out on top , unfortunately, but that is life and business ! Cheers Dennis.
Just a slight correction and being pedantic, but the front axles of a Mammoth Minor were lightweight axles rated at 4.25 tons each, compared with the normal MM axles of 6 tons each. The Mandator also had a 6 ton front axle.
“gingerfold” You are the font of knowledge on these AEC’s and leyland’s, a bit like “240 Gardner” on the
Atkinsons !
gingerfold:
Paul John:
Punchy Dan:
Looks like there’s a Foden behind John wards 88 pushing him on a straight barDan, what ever is following the blue 88 is in Andrew Coopers way as he wants to pass them all.
Reminds me of a story I heard back in the eighties. This old guy was in his Morris 1000 one Sunday afternoon taking a nice run out when it conks out. He’s under the bonnet scratching his head, can’t work out what’s wrong. This young kid in a RS 2000 stops to see if he could help. The old man asks if he could tow him back to the house. No problem they put a rope on and off they go. About five minutes into the journey the kid in the RS spots a Dolamite Sprint and decides to chase after him. Totally forgets about the car he’s towing. Couple of guys enjoying a pint in the local beer garden, cant believe what they are seeing. They shout to their mates telling them, there’s a RS 2000 out here chasing a Dolamite Sprint and a guy hanging out the window of a Morris 1000 flashing his lights and banging his horn trying to pass them.
Classic!I remember that day on Shap very well, being authentic and re-creating the old days I was in “Aberdeen overdrive” coming down the hill before the climb and got to the bridge in the hollow at about 65 mph when some photographer in a car in front of me slowed down to get a photo. He cost me about 35 mph and 3 gears on the climb. Happy Days
I bet the air was blue in the cab ! 
Buzzer:
DEAN don’t have any pics of my converted Mamoth Minor, why did we not take pictures back then. But here is a picture me & my Mandator only one year old when I was working for a round timber haulier before I branched out on my own account with the MM, good motor but was not painted in the firms colours as preasure of work did not permit that and the motor was a ■■■■■■ back and came from a Birmingham OD, allegedly it was used to nick a load of copper tube but the fella got caught and his wife had to dispose of the truck, happened even back then, Buzzer
Great pic Buzzer, that was a few years ago then chap ! Looks like shes got a fair load on there !!!
Some period adverts .
Sorry about the quality of the advert but bear in mind these magazines are over 40 years old.
The quality compared to today is awful some of the black and white adverts particularly.
Click on pages twice to magnify for reading.
A few adverts for “gingerfold”
Alot of borderer’s around today.
Graham Duncan haulage F88
Kwik save Borderer
Claben Mercedes
Prestons borderer
French Unic
New Spanish Dodge.
Lambert brothers borderer
A.C.T. Scania
Foden,anyone recognise it ■■
ERF wrecker ,heavy recovery.
That Foden has the second skin roof on the cab so may have been goin to hot countries and Hampshire registration, PBC maybe, Buzzer.
Buzzer:
That Foden has the second skin roof on the cab so may have been goin to hot countries and Hampshire registration, PBC maybe, Buzzer.
Don’t know who owns it,but the drivers name is Pete!!!
David
gingerfold:
Yes, Dennis is getting more and more like Carryfast by the day.
I metioned elsewhere that I thought Carryfast’s father had a bike and toured the North West on it back in the '40’s, glad that others have noticed the similarity as well. 
Pete.
Hiya Dean,The Foden S40 belonged to Framptons of Shepton Mallet,a later pic attached (not my shot),Cheers Bubbs,
Buzzer:
DEAN don’t have any pics of my converted Mamoth Minor, why did we not take pictures back then. But here is a picture me & my Mandator only one year old when I was working for a round timber haulier before I branched out on my own account with the MM, good motor but was not painted in the firms colours as preasure of work did not permit that and the motor was a ■■■■■■ back and came from a Birmingham OD, allegedly it was used to nick a load of copper tube but the fella got caught and his wife had to dispose of the truck, happened even back then, Buzzer
If that 'ansome young fella had had an axe by him I would have believed he could have felled those mighty butts single handed ! Dennis.
bubbleman:
Hiya Dean,The Foden S40 belonged to Framptons of Shepton Mallet,a later pic attached (not my shot),Cheers Bubbs,
Notably without the roof heat shield in place!
David
One for DEANB! Robert
Bewick:
ramone:
The H.Bakers Mammoth Minor gave problems , apparently it threw flames from the exhaust according to one of their drivers who is sadly no longer with us. It went back to Tillotsons in Bradford but they couldn`t cure it. The 4 x 2 Mandator loading bales was eventually sold to B.Holmes waste paper in Bradford and my dad drove it . By this time it was 10 years old and past its best , it was a regular over the M62 running at full weight to RamsbottomThe idea was brilliant “ramone” and on the face of it was economical just using the fron’t end( and one drive axle) of an MM but in practice the engine and its ancillary equipment sunk it ! Plus British Leyland were arrogant [zb] so they got “theirs” and were wiped out by a combination of Atkis, ERF’s and the Scandinavians ! eventually the Scandinavians came out on top , unfortunately, but that is life and business ! Cheers Dennis.
I would have thought the drivetrain to be the same as the Mandator ,which proved reliable and quite nimble when it was first introduced , it was later it got dated and left behind
HI Rob
Yes George & Derek are Pauline & Colins sons unfortunately both no longer with us.
Cheers
Rich
moomooland:
DEANB:
Bewick:
Those Mammoth Minors turned out to be a disaster IIRC.Thanks for your comments Dennis ! I may be wrong but i seem to remember one of the large tanker
operators,shell,esso or someone operated them ■■There were quite a few of the disastrous Mammoth Minors about back in the day.
The original AEC Mammoth Minor concept was for a light weight six-wheeler to get around the constraints imposed by tare weight controlled A Licensing. Athersmith’s example dates from 1937.
gingerfold:
moomooland:
DEANB:
Bewick:
Those Mammoth Minors turned out to be a disaster IIRC.Thanks for your comments Dennis ! I may be wrong but i seem to remember one of the large tanker
operators,shell,esso or someone operated them ■■21There were quite a few of the disastrous Mammoth Minors about back in the day.
The original AEC Mammoth Minor concept was for a light weight six-wheeler to get around the constraints imposed by tare weight controlled A Licensing. Athersmith’s example dates from 1937.
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Thanks for that. I think that’s the earliest Athersmith’s I’ve ever seen. I have a great picture of an Athersmith’s 8 wheeler and drag on shap, the M6, about 1970. The cover of a book I bought. I can’t reproduce it here for copyright reasons, but as a ‘Barra lad’ I do love seeing Athersmith & Brady.
John.
