PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

chris_webb · 1 June 2018 12:24

moomooland:

robroy:
Moomooland, you obviously know a lot about the origin of old Atkinsons, what have you got on my old one… RDC 746M.

The man that could probably help more than me is Chris Gardner, who has just posted the selection above.

RDC 746M is a 1973 Teesside/M’borough reg and ICI ran several ■■■■■■■ engine Atkinson Borderers int 70s.Could be one of theirs maybe? Sadlers also ran them at that time.

240_gardner · 1 June 2018 12:58

Chris Webb:

moomooland:

robroy:
Moomooland, you obviously know a lot about the origin of old Atkinsons, what have you got on my old one… RDC 746M.

The man that could probably help more than me is Chris Gardner, who has just posted the selection above.

RDC 746M is a 1973 Teesside/M’borough reg and ICI ran several ■■■■■■■ engine Atkinson Borderers int 70s.Could be one of theirs maybe? Sadlers also ran them at that time.

I don’t know about that one, sorry

240_gardner · 1 June 2018 13:21

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
Bowker Volvo F7

Ah, Bowker 49, thank you

This was a very long-lived machine, and this photo was taken before its accident in December 1982, after which it was re-cabbed. I think the driver in the photo may be Tony Walker.

It was later re-plated to its design weight of 36.6 tonnes and lightened in various ways, to become the London Depot shunter, replacing an F86 and able to handle trailers trunked down by 38 tonners. Part of the lightening involved removing the front anti-roll bar - I remember taking it down to Crick on a changeover, following a service at Blackburn, and collecting a a trailer from Heinz at Kitt Green on the way, loaded with 25 Imperial tons of tomato ketchup on two layers of pallets . It took me 3.5 hours from Kitt Green to George’s, and the (few) lane changes felt quite exciting!

After the closure of the London Depot in 1988, 49 worked as a local shunter for years for a customer in Skelmersdale, moving lightweight product from factory to warehouse on a closed circuit. I think it was about 1999 when it was finally retired. It was put aside for restoration and the Technical Director tried in vain to get a fresh cab out of Volvo. It was still there several years later (see below photo by ‘Marky’) but, since the engineer’s sudden death in post almost three years ago, I don’t know if the little Volvo was ditched or not;

ARN 887V Volvo F717 by 240 Gardner, on Flickr

I was talking to Bowker’s MD about this motor this week - they’ve dragged it out for a proper look, but have found that the chassis is quite rotten as well as the cab, so I fear it’s the hot spanner unless anyone wants to put their hand up for it PDQ.

maggied · 1 June 2018 14:30

pete smith:

HRS:
Didn’t Taymix come to a rather undignified end. Something to do not being able to tell the time!

He told me one day that AEC nearly broke his company.
His son drove the flag ship truck and did his own thing if I remember right.
What did happen to them ■■? your neck of the woods Dean ■■? Harvey

Sandway was on the money! Operators licence revoked for serious breaches of drivers hours,
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Hi Pete,

Yes Sandway is correct,in March 2007 a Polish driver for Taymix/Translact killed a husband and wife on the A303,he was found to have driven for 16 hours without a proper break,and was given a 4 year prison sentence,and the Taylors licence was revoked in June 2007.

Regards
Richard

pete_smith · 1 June 2018 14:56

MaggieD:

pete smith:

HRS:
Didn’t Taymix come to a rather undignified end. Something to do not being able to tell the time!

He told me one day that AEC nearly broke his company.
His son drove the flag ship truck and did his own thing if I remember right.
What did happen to them ■■? your neck of the woods Dean ■■? Harvey

Sandway was on the money! Operators licence revoked for serious breaches of drivers hours,

Hi Pete,

Yes Sandway is correct,in March 2007 a Polish driver for Taymix/Translact killed a husband and wife on the A303,he was found to have driven for 16 hours without a proper break,and was given a 4 year prison sentence,and the Taylors licence was revoked in June 2007.

Regards
Richard
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Afternoon Richard,
Thanks for the info, Translact was the trading name I remember from that incident, hope you are keeping well, Best Regards Pete

240_gardner · 1 June 2018 15:15

pete smith:
Hi Pete,

Yes Sandway is correct,in March 2007 a Polish driver for Taymix/Translact killed a husband and wife on the A303,he was found to have driven for 16 hours without a proper break,and was given a 4 year prison sentence,and the Taylors licence was revoked in June 2007.

Regards
Richard
Afternoon Richard,
Thanks for the info, Translact was the trading name I remember from that incident, hope you are keeping well, Best Regards Pete

Still see the trailers about, so I presume they are still trading, with others doing traction for them?

jimbo47 · 1 June 2018 15:31

a few pages back a picture o a PIE outfit with the small front bumper .well this was done by some companies that believed in an accident the bumper would be pushed back into the wheel causing the driver to lose control. strange but true.

smallcoal · 1 June 2018 16:45

Hi dean,the h&b pic they had 3 lorrys Len and reg were the drivers we used to call them hinge and bracket transport they were like two old women talking they only had them fodens didn’t buy any new cracking pics as usual cheers John

marky · 1 June 2018 16:57

240 Gardner:

Chris Webb:

moomooland:

robroy:
Moomooland, you obviously know a lot about the origin of old Atkinsons, what have you got on my old one… RDC 746M.

The man that could probably help more than me is Chris Gardner, who has just posted the selection above.

RDC 746M is a 1973 Teesside/M’borough reg and ICI ran several ■■■■■■■ engine Atkinson Borderers int 70s.Could be one of theirs maybe? Sadlers also ran them at that time.

I don’t know about that one, sorry

Was it not one of Econofreight’s Borderers?

stanfield · 1 June 2018 17:00

240 Gardner I bet that Ken & Ray Walsh of Manchester would relish a chance of saving this it looks just up their street,they always say the rougher they are the better they like them.

marky · 1 June 2018 17:01

240 Gardner:

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
Bowker Volvo F7

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Ah, Bowker 49, thank you

This was a very long-lived machine, and this photo was taken before its accident in December 1982, after which it was re-cabbed. I think the driver in the photo may be Tony Walker.

It was later re-plated to its design weight of 36.6 tonnes and lightened in various ways, to become the London Depot shunter, replacing an F86 and able to handle trailers trunked down by 38 tonners. Part of the lightening involved removing the front anti-roll bar - I remember taking it down to Crick on a changeover, following a service at Blackburn, and collecting a a trailer from Heinz at Kitt Green on the way, loaded with 25 Imperial tons of tomato ketchup on two layers of pallets . It took me 3.5 hours from Kitt Green to George’s, and the (few) lane changes felt quite exciting!

After the closure of the London Depot in 1988, 49 worked as a local shunter for years for a customer in Skelmersdale, moving lightweight product from factory to warehouse on a closed circuit. I think it was about 1999 when it was finally retired. It was put aside for restoration and the Technical Director tried in vain to get a fresh cab out of Volvo. It was still there several years later (see below photo by ‘Marky’) but, since the engineer’s sudden death in post almost three years ago, I don’t know if the little Volvo was ditched or not;

ARN 887V Volvo F717 by 240 Gardner, on Flickr

I was talking to Bowker’s MD about this motor this week - they’ve dragged it out for a proper look, but have found that the chassis is quite rotten as well as the cab, so I fear it’s the hot spanner unless anyone wants to put their hand up for it PDQ.

I think that picture was taken in the Spring of 2004 Chris, just as 34 was being put back together and getting a chassis repaint. I seem to recall it was around the same time that the Wm. Blythe work was starting, because there were some very expensive Van Hool tanks parked behind where I was crouched taking the picture…

tim_c · 1 June 2018 17:21

DEANB:
Anyone recognise the F7 ■■?

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Shaw Carpets Mercedes.

Redland Seddon Atkinson.

Knight Bros ERF

Corby Transport Services Scania,with his 2 kids in tow.

London Carriers Seddon Atkinson.

Pattersons Volvo F10.

Poole Trucking Transcon.

Derick Hill Seddon Atkinson from ■■■■■■■■

Geo Beer & Sons ERF

The F7 was new to Johnston Earthmoving of Virginia Water Surrey

hrs · 2 June 2018 12:08

Afternoon all,
Just found out that Scotland has not only the worst pot holes in the UK but takes the longest time to “fix um”" Harvey

moomooland · 2 June 2018 15:28

Bowker No 49 ARN 887V pictured below 2nd from the right parked in the old yard at Blackburn.

smallcoal · 2 June 2018 16:08

HRS:
Afternoon all,
Just found out that Scotland has not only the worst pot holes in the UK but takes the longest time to “fix um”" Harvey

That ford will be a rust bucket by the time they finish there

deanb · 2 June 2018 17:15

Thanks to sandway,HRS,Pete Smith,MaggieD and 240 Gardner for there comments on Taymix.

Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, Wm.Rainford from Liverpool were a large company that specialised in cement & concrete.This picture is at the Mersey Tunnel “Branch” entrance/exit at the Pier Head, Liverpool.
The AEC Driver is giving a hand signal to turn right, no indicators back then.
Can you please put the Scammell Crusader on the Liverpool thread. Kind Regards, Ray.

Thanks for the info Ray.

Thanks to 240 Gardner, moomooland,for all of there messages and photos,thanks chaps !

Thanks also to Chris Webb,smallcoal,marky,Stanfield,for there comments.

JIMBO47:
a few pages back a picture o a PIE outfit with the small front bumper .well this was done by some companies that believed in an accident the bumper would be pushed back into the wheel causing the driver to lose control. strange but true.

Thanks JIMBO47 for clarifying that photo it looked like bits of it were missing.

Tim C:
Anyone recognise the F7 ■■?
The F7 was new to Johnston Earthmoving of Virginia Water Surrey

Thanks for the pic and the name of the original owners of that F7 Tim C !

moomooland:
Bowker No 49 ARN 887V pictured below 2nd from the right parked in the old yard at Blackburn.

Another good pic Paul.

Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, What a great thread this is, over a third of a million views in 1 year, Well done.
This picture is the same location as the Wm.Rainford AEC concrete mixer shown above.
Have a look on Google Earth, “Pier Head Liverpool L3 1PD”, then spin round to see the area.
The traffic flow is now just one way, for traffic from Birkenhead and Wirral to exit onto
the Dock Road and Riverside area. Regards, Ray.

Thanks for your comments Ray.

kenfig bill:
Good morning DEAN ,…and happy anniversary !!! …one year old this phenomenal thread …what a successto you both …
some awesome shots the past few weeks …W G Davies Marathon it had a name cant remember what it was …at one time based with a driver at Kington on the Welsh borders …
The Seddon believed to be Cyril Williams had one hauling milk floats from a factory at Tredegar …always good to see Entress and that one ended up with Roberts at Knighton …did not know that D J fowler had an F7 …he had some impressive Roadtrains …super stuff from South wales as usual …Geraint

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Thanks for the info on those trucks,i hope your dad is still looking in Geraint !

I never realised it was one year old yesterday,thanks for your comments. Its been a busy
year and a big thanks to all the regular contributors who keep it going !

This is the message that started the ball rolling. Its all Roberts fault as i was looking for NGC’s when
i found the photo below that Paul had posted online and sent Paul a message. I never heard back from
him for about 3 months as he had not been on the site. Anyway he sends me a reply saying i have a few
more ! lol

Thats how the photos ended up on here.

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