Buzzer:
DEAN & Paul page 20 already just shows the interest of these old shots of our past years in the industry, brings back so many Mary Hopkins moments for us olduns, thanks Buzzer.
Thanks Buzzer, lots more to come chap ! Paul is busy working on the next batch which we should
be starting in the next 2 weeks ! No doubt there will be some gems !
moomooland:
Well i never thought i would see a picture of this old girl again!
Operated by the long gone Scotts of Oldham Terry Grindon drove this former Wilson’s Brewery ERF KV four wheeler dray wagon.
Contrary to the Gardner 240 badge on the front it was actually powered by a little Gardner 4LK engine which did 23 mpg and had a top speed of 46 mph.
Terry drove it from 1973 to 1976 all over the country even adapting the three man crew cab into form of sleeper cab.
Thanks Paul for the comments ! 23 mpg was pretty impressive even if the speed was slow.
windrush:
The AEC mixer looks like one of Mixconcrete’s fleet.
Pete.
Thanks Pete for the comments,any pics ■■
SOME PERIOD ADVERTS. Click on pages twice to read !
smallcoal:
A few more pics wm Morgan, entress,and a furniture wagon from port talbot ,I used to help out when I was younger w Jones removals that was driven by my friend Johnny brimfield when he was younger he is 82 now and still knows the reg . Anybody remember a driver from entress yorkie his name was
Brilliant pictures John, particularly like the Jones removal truck ! Was that a bedford ■■?
I know Dennis was not a fan of those Spanish Dodges but they were certainly popular as we can see by
the amount that Paul has taken photos of ! I wonder if part of the reason is that they were cheap to buy ■■
Hi dean yes it was a Bedford he wrapped up in the late 80’s the firm was 90 years old he ran Bedfords and ford d series here’s one of his modern Bedford a336twn. Blue dart was a different company nothing to do with blt cheers John
smallcoal:
A few more pics wm Morgan, entress,and a furniture wagon from port talbot ,I used to help out when I was younger w Jones removals that was driven by my friend Johnny brimfield when he was younger he is 82 now and still knows the reg . Anybody remember a driver from entress yorkie his name was
Brilliant pictures John, particularly like the Jones removal truck ! Was that a bedford ■■?
I know Dennis was not a fan of those Spanish Dodges but they were certainly popular as we can see by
the amount that Paul has taken photos of ! I wonder if part of the reason is that they were cheap to buy ■■
Hi dean yes it was a Bedford he wrapped up in the late 80’s the firm was 90 years old he ran Bedfords and ford d series here’s one of his modern Bedford a336twn. Blue dart was a different company nothing to do with blt cheers John
John thanks for the pic.Bedford’s were the backbone of the removal industry without a doubt !
Thanks also for confirming Blue dart were a seperate company !
smallcoal:
A few more pics blue line ,George bros Swansea,remploy ford wagon and drag
Again great pics John thanks for posting ! The ford removal truck has the usual battle scars with
trees on the n/s front of the luton. Aluminium bodies were the worst,you could soon put some nasty
scars/dents in them. Not sure if the picture of the remploy motor is deceiving but that
motor looks tall !
DEANB:
Intresting observation Dennis, i would not have said the Ford transcons were not premium motors ? Bedford’s were probably the most common trucks back then. The TK and TL were money making trucks,simple,easy to
repair,cheap to repair,and cheap to run. They could make you good money . The maggies semmed to have a
strong following just by the numbers that Paul took photos of,plus as a kid i can remember seeing loads of
them about. I dont know Dennis,but maybe they were cheap to buy ■■ The Crusaders and Romans i dont know
that much about. I believe the Romans were basically Mans,but someone else may know for sure…
Hi Dean, thanks to Paul and yourself this thread just keeps getting better and better so thanks for that.
It’s great to see other Trucknet members adding their comments so that makes the photos even more interesting.
If I may add my two pennies worth (for what it’s worth) a story that involves the Dow Ford Transcontinental’s on page one was that most of them had chrome wheel trims, chrome air horns and sun visors. After one of the Transcons had been involved in an accident in Austria due to brake fade while descending one of the alps the foreman fitter threw all the wheel trims into the skip, there was no E-bay back then.
As regards the quires about Roman trucks which were the backbone of Romtrans the Rumanian State Transport Company. Dow Freight use to reload from the Roman Diesel factory in Brasov, Transylvania not far from The Rumanian Tractor factory. I never loaded there myself although I did go to the factory once and somebody told me that all the machinery in the factory had been from the old M.A.N./ Bussing factory in Nuremberg or Augsburg. I was told that the loads that Dow delivered went to the Roman Diesel agents near the Tankwash at Lokeren in Belgium and I.I.R.C. the loads that came back to England went to somewhere in the south, Newbury or the Basingstoke area.
On my first trip to Turkey in a M.A.N. the head gasket started leaking at a place called Diyarbakir in the far east of the country and we decided to piggyback it on the back of another truck and take it up to Aydins garage in Istanbul. It was important to chain the back axle up on the top trailer and to keep the height down we took off the front wheels on the unit and also took off the illuminous headboard.
Pauls photo of this Carman’s Volvo reminded me that there was a colour photo of this truck and the driver outside Dover Docks on his way back from a Middle East trip. I can’t remember if it was on The Carman’s thread or The Old Stoke Drivers thread.
And finally, as mentioned by Small Coal, Blue Dart were nothing to do with Blue Line from Tondue. Blue Dart used to send at least two forty foot trailer loads a day down to Vitafoam in Maesteg who were their parent company. In the early seventies we used to back load from Addis Plastics and a toy factory near Newport whose name I can’t remember now. Blue Dart did eventually take over a company called Hughes Haulage whose yard was somewhere near Bridgend I think, I am not sure now but they did have a fleet of light blue Scammels, I am sure that Pete or The Steel Boys will know.
Regards Steve.
DEANB:
Intresting observation Dennis, i would not have said the Ford transcons were not premium motors ? Bedford’s were probably the most common trucks back then. The TK and TL were money making trucks,simple,easy to
repair,cheap to repair,and cheap to run. They could make you good money . The maggies semmed to have a
strong following just by the numbers that Paul took photos of,plus as a kid i can remember seeing loads of
them about. I dont know Dennis,but maybe they were cheap to buy ■■ The Crusaders and Romans i dont know
that much about. I believe the Romans were basically Mans,but someone else may know for sure…
Hi Dean, thanks to Paul and yourself this thread just keeps getting better and better so thanks for that.
It’s great to see other Trucknet members adding their comments so that makes the photos even more interesting.
If I may add my two pennies worth (for what it’s worth) a story that involves the Dow Ford Transcontinental’s on page one was that most of them had chrome wheel trims, chrome air horns and sun visors. After one of the Transcons had been involved in an accident in Austria due to brake fade while descending one of the alps the foreman fitter threw all the wheel trims into the skip, there was no E-bay back then.
As regards the quires about Roman trucks which were the backbone of Romtrans the Rumanian State Transport Company. Dow Freight use to reload from the Roman Diesel factory in Brasov, Transylvania not far from The Rumanian Tractor factory. I never loaded there myself although I did go to the factory once and somebody told me that all the machinery in the factory had been from the old M.A.N./ Bussing factory in Nuremberg or Augsburg. I was told that the loads that Dow delivered went to the Roman Diesel agents near the Tankwash at Lokeren in Belgium and I.I.R.C. the loads that came back to England went to somewhere in the south, Newbury or the Basingstoke area.
On my first trip to Turkey in a M.A.N. the head gasket started leaking at a place called Diyarbakir in the far east of the country and we decided to piggyback it on the back of another truck and take it up to Aydins garage in Istanbul. It was important to chain the back axle up on the top trailer and to keep the height down we took off the front wheels on the unit and also took off the illuminous headboard.
Pauls photo of this Carman’s Volvo reminded me that there was a colour photo of this truck and the driver outside Dover Docks on his way back from a Middle East trip. I can’t remember if it was on The Carman’s thread or The Old Stoke Drivers thread.
And finally, as mentioned by Small Coal, Blue Dart were nothing to do with Blue Line from Tondue. Blue Dart used to send at least two forty foot trailer loads a day down to Vitafoam in Maesteg who were their parent company. In the early seventies we used to back load from Addis Plastics and a toy factory near Newport whose name I can’t remember now. Blue Dart did eventually take over a company called Hughes Haulage whose yard was somewhere near Bridgend I think, I am not sure now but they did have a fleet of light blue Scammels, I am sure that Pete or The Steel Boys will know.
Regards Steve.
Glad you are enjoying the thread Steve. Thanks for your comments,much appreciated ! Threw all the
wheel trims in the skip,classic ! Heres another one !
Wow, that’s brilliant!! It was one of three Fodens bought in the 1970s, when Atkis were in short supply. One had a 250 ■■■■■■■ and the others were 220s
There was one memorable Saturday morning in the office, when the fleet engineer held forth at some considerable length with his memories of their shortcomings, many and varied, and all three were sold off within a year because they were so disastrous
DEANB:
All these Atkis ,“240 Gardner” will be along in a minute !
Just catching up…
Not only the Atkis, but just the nostalgia, and reminders of names I used to deal with or see, such as Free Foresters. If I remember rightly, they were one of the hauliers at the Ribena factory (Royal Forest Factory, it was called) at Coleford
Wow, that’s brilliant!! It was one of three Fodens bought in the 1970s, when Atkis were in short supply. One had a 250 ■■■■■■■ and the others were 220s
There was one memorable Saturday morning in the office, when the fleet engineer held forth at some considerable length with his memories of their shortcomings, many and varied, and all three were sold off within a year because they were so disastrous
That picture caught my eye too! That one looks like a Haulmaster. Were they fitted with 12-sp Foden 'boxes or 9-sp Fuller do you remember? Robert
Wow, that’s brilliant!! It was one of three Fodens bought in the 1970s, when Atkis were in short supply. One had a 250 ■■■■■■■ and the others were 220s
There was one memorable Saturday morning in the office, when the fleet engineer held forth at some considerable length with his memories of their shortcomings, many and varied, and all three were sold off within a year because they were so disastrous
That picture caught my eye too! That one looks like a Haulmaster. Were they fitted with 12-sp Foden 'boxes or 9-sp Fuller do you remember? Robert
They were definitely Foden: I remember because that was a part of the rant! Something about the exhaust being routed under the 'box and frying it, also rings a bell
It pre-dates the Haulmaster by a few years,though - this will be an S80? It’s on an M-plate
Took these at the end of my road when i was about 12 ! The whole road system has
now changed and there is a roundabout there now. The forth pic of the F6,shows a set of traffic lights
which are now gone,and the road is one way in the other direction.
You will notice how good i was ! fingers and thumb all over the first pic !
To be fair to my camera skills ! It was a very old crap camera.
Wow, that’s brilliant!! It was one of three Fodens bought in the 1970s, when Atkis were in short supply. One had a 250 ■■■■■■■ and the others were 220s
There was one memorable Saturday morning in the office, when the fleet engineer held forth at some considerable length with his memories of their shortcomings, many and varied, and all three were sold off within a year because they were so disastrous
That picture caught my eye too! That one looks like a Haulmaster. Were they fitted with 12-sp Foden 'boxes or 9-sp Fuller do you remember? Robert
They were definitely Foden: I remember because that was a part of the rant! Something about the exhaust being routed under the 'box and frying it, also rings a bell
It pre-dates the Haulmaster by a few years,though - this will be an S80? It’s on an M-plate
Definately an S80, it will have the Foden 8/9/12 speed 'box (call it want you want, they are all in there if you search around) and worm and wheel back end (possibly 4.8 ratio) with reduction hubs. Not sure what engine though, a front mounted exhaust so could be anything under that cab?
Wow, that’s brilliant!! It was one of three Fodens bought in the 1970s, when Atkis were in short supply. One had a 250 ■■■■■■■ and the others were 220s
There was one memorable Saturday morning in the office, when the fleet engineer held forth at some considerable length with his memories of their shortcomings, many and varied, and all three were sold off within a year because they were so disastrous
That picture caught my eye too! That one looks like a Haulmaster. Were they fitted with 12-sp Foden 'boxes or 9-sp Fuller do you remember? Robert
They were definitely Foden: I remember because that was a part of the rant! Something about the exhaust being routed under the 'box and frying it, also rings a bell
It pre-dates the Haulmaster by a few years,though - this will be an S80? It’s on an M-plate
Harold Wood ERF tanker, must have been a fair size company as we have had a fair few of his ?
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Harold Wood…an absolute giant of tanker haulage, started as an owner driver in the early 1930s and built up to about 700 tankers by 1970 when he sold out to UTT I think it was, (but needs verifying). In its day Harold Wood was the largest privately owned tanker haulier in the country and was a massive AEC user, even owning AEC dealerships. They carried every type of bulk liquids you can name. A legend of tanker operations and innovation. The ERF dates from when the company had been sold by Harold Wood.
smallcoal:
A few more pics wm Morgan, entress,and a furniture wagon from port talbot ,I used to help out when I was younger w Jones removals that was driven by my friend Johnny brimfield when he was younger he is 82 now and still knows the reg . Anybody remember a driver from entress yorkie his name was
Brilliant pictures John, particularly like the Jones removal truck ! Was that a bedford ■■?
I know Dennis was not a fan of those Spanish Dodges but they were certainly popular as we can see by
the amount that Paul has taken photos of ! I wonder if part of the reason is that they were cheap to buy ■■
Hi dean yes it was a Bedford he wrapped up in the late 80’s the firm was 90 years old he ran Bedfords and ford d series here’s one of his modern Bedford a336twn. Blue dart was a different company nothing to do with blt cheers John
John thanks for the pic.Bedford’s were the backbone of the removal industry without a doubt !
Thanks also for confirming Blue dart were a seperate company !
smallcoal:
A few more pics blue line ,George bros Swansea,remploy ford wagon and drag
Again great pics John thanks for posting ! The ford removal truck has the usual battle scars with
trees on the n/s front of the luton. Aluminium bodies were the worst,you could soon put some nasty
scars/dents in them. Not sure if the picture of the remploy motor is deceiving but that
motor looks tall !
The wagon and drag were all demounts ,moomooland is the best on remploy
Heres another one ! 
