PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[deanb]

BonkeyDollocks:
If I’m being honest Dean I love looking at all the pics not just the quarry tippers. There’s something in them all and it’s amazing how much the haulage scene has changed in the 40 or so years since the photos were taken. These days you’d have to be a true die hard to stand at the side of the road taking pics of the modern rubbish that hauls our goods up and down. The pics stand as true testaments to the lorries and drivers that did the job back then.

Of course we’re all indebted to Paul for taking the pics and allowing them to be uploaded and thanks also to yourself Dean for taking the time to scan and post them!

As I’ve previously said the tippers are my main interest but alongside ‘thelongdrag’ I also love the Derbyshire lorries of which I’ve spotted R Hansons from Chapel en le frith, E Stead from Buxton, BJ Waters from Darley Dale, Sellers and Kent from Ilam and WH Phillips from Wirksworth. It’s also great to see others I remember seeing as a kid, companies like GR Stein, British Salt, Walshs from Haslington and of course all the Tilcon, Hoveringham and Amey Roadstone tippers.

The thread has been going barely three weeks but it’s already a firm favourite with so many!
All that’s left for me to say is very well done chaps and we all look forward to seeing whatever treasures pop up next.

Thanks “BonkeyDollocks” for your comments and your input on this thread much appreciated !
There will be more tippers today ! Is the Seddon BJ Waters ■■

[deanb]

Stanfield:
Hey Bonkey with all these Derbyshire tippers coming through we may eventually get one of Biestys Scammells (fingers crossed)

BonkeyDollocks:

Stanfield:
Hey Bonkey with all these Derbyshire tippers coming through we may eventually get one of Biestys Scammells (fingers crossed)

You never know Stanny lad! Would be perfection if one did pop up! Highly doubt it though as I don’t think they did distance work (unless they delivered cutback to a depot in the area)

Every chance of seeing a Staveley Lime tanker though!

Hello “Stanfield” & “BD”, cant do scammels but can do Foden !

I assume that Biestys and Staveley were connected ? If you enlarge the above pic of the foden
it says Staveley on the sheet ? Cant do a lime tanker at the moment but i assume this is the
same Staveley.

[deanb]

jshepguis:
I agree with everybody who comments about how good these photos are and how it takes everybody backs to times gone by. I also think that with todays lorries, and i think more importantly usually coupled to curtainside/container trailers that they all look pretty much the same and box like. Where as on a lot of these photo,s you actually see the diversity of loads carried on a daily basis, even down to the brewery artics with sheeted loads of barrels.
So i think there are more interesting shapes to look at, and they just seem to have more character to them. Thanks once again for the time and effort being put in, i know we all appreciate it.

Thanks for your comments ! I could not agree more i have got no intrest in modern trucks. They all
look pretty much the same and they dont have any character like the old motors.

gingerfold:

DEANB:
Leyland or AEC ■■ Can you tell which from a side shot ■■?Leyland Buffalo Fixed Head 510 Engine

“gingerfold” Thanks for your input again. Just out of intrest how can you tell, is it the rear of the cab ■■

Buzzer:
Aha think this picture of Fluen’s was a company based in Andover IIRC, Buzzer.

Thanks for your input Buzzer ! Tried to blow it up but cant read it, thats a unusual name.

Punchy Dan:
Great seddon Atkis loaded with coke probably from bedwas at that time ,come on Pete smith who’s is the artic ? I think I know . Funny how 8 wheeler axle spacings are the opersite way now compared to the waters one .

“Punchy Dan” you will be pleased to know there are alot more Welsh trucks to come !

kenfig bill:
Really excellent South Wales stuff …thanks DEAN …that Entrees F86 loaded with carbon black tote bins is a gem …My father tells me they were up and down that stretch of the M50 for the Firestone tyre plant at Wolverhampton …another gem is F86 6 wheeler with a coil of Fred Bouldry …he had some very early F86 units …can just remember R J Browns Transcon …Geraint .

Thanks Geraint for your comments,keep looking there will be more you will know.

rward:
We had the Transcon on hire a few times as we We’re next door to them r j Bowns were a great bunch of guys regards rowly

Thanks Rowly appreciate your comments.

pete smith:
Dean/Paul,
This is a Leyland Buffalo and probably based at Smiths Albion Flour Mills In Walsall, I think they ran 5 from there eventually replacing one with a F86 and the rest with F7’s and they kept one Buffalo for shunting duties, thank you Gents for jogging the memory!

Thanks Pete ,really appreciate all of your feedback you have been a star !

pete smith:
Kin hell, move 2 pictures down and one of Mervyn Applebys Sed Atki’s probably supplied by Rylands and salesman may have been our dearly departed friend Saviem, Thanks again,

Pete, Its a shame Saviem is still not with us,a great loss for the forum. He would have really enjoyed this thread,and we all miss his knowledge. We would no doubt have laughed at some of his ramblings
and stories !

[deanb]

Before i put pictures on today i would just like to thank everyone for there input to this thread. It is
very much appreciated by me and Paul who of course took all the photos.

Paul has a very busy life and really appreciates everyones comments,and he does read them all.
The comments are what make the thread so intresting as well as obviously the photos,so keep
them coming !

Hopefully when he has more time in the future,he will become a member on here.

Thanks,Dean

[mrjake]

Was going to say some really good pics on here but they are ALL good pics. Seeing the Severn crossing reminds me of when it opened and the lorry toll was half-a-crown (2/6d/12p) each way, we used to have prepaid tickets and I remember only needing to slow down and hang out of the window to pay, before the days of the barriers. Five shillings for a there and back crossing is apparently about a fiver today.

[deanb]

Todays pics.

Some quality to start !

Mercedes

ERF day cab.

Smart Seddon,looks new.

Very tidy ERF tanker.

Looks like a ERF dealers ? I thought maybe Richard Reads ■■?

Looks like a new Marathon with a new Caterpillar !

Tidy ERF

DAF

Seddon Atkinson

[deanb]

Sun Valley F86,there fleet always looks very tidy.

W.J.Howard Atkinson.

Foden. “Bonkeydollocks” whats the story with the Mammoth on the door ■■

ERF,with small tanker.

Foden, 8 wheeler .There were hundreds of 8 wheelers back then,hardy see one these days !

Tidy ERF

Foden

BRS Scania

BRS Guy

Pickfords food tanker.

[deanb]

kingswinford kit:
Hey DEANB,nice kick off with that lot with the Issac Caswell Borderer . He had a big immaculate fleet and his Borderers were the finest in S Wales ,thanks again for some superb stuff,regards Keith .

Keith and Geraint heres another one of Caswells Borderer !

[moomooland]

A. & R. Astbury (Plant Hire) Limited of Watling Street Bridgtown Cannock used to move a lot of plant for the nearby Caterpillar factory at Cannock.
The Leyland/AEC Marathon Reg No SHA 529R in the picture was registered new in April 1977.
Astbury’s were wound up in June 1996.

[deanb]

Some period adverts. Click on pages twice to read.

Probably the most sold truck back in the 1970s.

[pete_smith]

moomooland:
0A. & R. Astbury (Plant Hire) Limited of Watling Street Bridgtown Cannock used to move a lot of plant for the nearby Caterpillar factory at Cannock.
The Leyland/AEC Marathon Reg No SHA 529R in the picture was registered new in April 1977.
Astbury’s were wound up in June 1996.

Last motor’s they ran we’re white Merc’s,

[windrush]

The Mammoth on the Hoveringham lorry was used because the skeleton of a Mammoth was found in one of their gravel pits, not sure which one but I don’t think it was the one at Hoveringham? K&M haulage were based at Hucknall near Rolls-Royces airfield, they actually painted from new the Sed-Ak 400’s that Tilcon had at Ballidon quarry and when we steam cleaned them off for MOT most of the paint came off the cabs so they did them again!

The Sed-Ak is one of B.J Waters, still based at Darley Dale but moving anytime soon to the Ripley area I believe.

Pete.

[bonkeydollocks]

DEANB:

Stanfield:
Hey Bonkey with all these Derbyshire tippers coming through we may eventually get one of Biestys Scammells (fingers crossed)

BonkeyDollocks:

Stanfield:
Hey Bonkey with all these Derbyshire tippers coming through we may eventually get one of Biestys Scammells (fingers crossed)

You never know Stanny lad! Would be perfection if one did pop up! Highly doubt it though as I don’t think they did distance work (unless they delivered cutback to a depot in the area)

Every chance of seeing a Staveley Lime tanker though!

Hello “Stanfield” & “BD”, cant do scammels but can do Foden !

1

I assume that Biestys and Staveley were connected ? If you enlarge the above pic of the foden
it says Staveley on the sheet ? Cant do a lime tanker at the moment but i assume this is the
same Staveley.

0

Brilliant pics! That’s the first S80 I’ve seen in Biesty colours (seen a few S83s but not the earlier model) and what about the Staveley S39! Also the first time I’ve seen that one. I have a pic of its sister but in Biesty colours I’ll post later after work.

The transport firm Biesty were owned by Staveley Lime and continued to run under the name til the early 80s when Staveley renamed their quarry operations ‘Peakstone’. Very interesting pics, I can only assume the lorries were both transporting lime. The Biesty fleet were usually employed on localised deliveries of Roadstone and aggregates so to see one on lime duties is particularly interesting.

[stanfield]

BonkeyDollocks:

DEANB:

Stanfield:
Hey Bonkey with all these Derbyshire tippers coming through we may eventually get one of Biestys Scammells (fingers crossed)

BonkeyDollocks:

Stanfield:
Hey Bonkey with all these Derbyshire tippers coming through we may eventually get one of Biestys Scammells (fingers crossed)

You never know Stanny lad! Would be perfection if one did pop up! Highly doubt it though as I don’t think they did distance work (unless they delivered cutback to a depot in the area)

Every chance of seeing a Staveley Lime tanker though!

Hello “Stanfield” & “BD”, cant do scammels but can do Foden !

1

I assume that Biestys and Staveley were connected ? If you enlarge the above pic of the foden
it says Staveley on the sheet ? Cant do a lime tanker at the moment but i assume this is the
same Staveley.

0

Brilliant pics! That’s the first S80 I’ve seen in Biesty colours (seen a few S83s but not the earlier model) and what about the Staveley S39! Also the first time I’ve seen that one. I have a pic of its sister but in Biesty colours I’ll post later after work.

The transport firm Biesty were owned by Staveley Lime and continued to run under the name til the early 80s when Staveley renamed their quarry operations ‘Peakstone’. Very interesting pics, I can only assume the lorries were both transporting lime. The Biesty fleet were usually employed on localised deliveries of Roadstone and aggregates so to see one on lime duties is particularly interesting.

Thanks Dean & Paul For adding John Biesty photo much appreciated.Has Bonkey states John Biesty was taken over by Staveley Industries in 1973 and within weeks they had closed the depot in Manchester down making office and workshop staff (myself included) redundant but they kept the drivers for another 12 months or so.Always on the lookout for photos of there motors.

[bonkeydollocks]

DEANB:

Stanfield:
Hey Bonkey with all these Derbyshire tippers coming through we may eventually get one of Biestys Scammells (fingers crossed)

BonkeyDollocks:

Stanfield:
Hey Bonkey with all these Derbyshire tippers coming through we may eventually get one of Biestys Scammells (fingers crossed)

You never know Stanny lad! Would be perfection if one did pop up! Highly doubt it though as I don’t think they did distance work (unless they delivered cutback to a depot in the area)

Every chance of seeing a Staveley Lime tanker though!

Hello “Stanfield” & “BD”, cant do scammels but can do Foden !

I assume that Biestys and Staveley were connected ? If you enlarge the above pic of the foden
it says Staveley on the sheet ? Cant do a lime tanker at the moment but i assume this is the
same Staveley.

Just checked the images of Biesty lorries I have and turns out the S39 is the same lorry! Reposted Dean’s pic and the later repainted same lorry in Biesty colours! Dunno why it was repainted as it was the same company!

I also add a pic of the other ex Staveley Lime Foden that was bought by local haulage firm Hazelcroft Garage.

[punchy_dan]

pete smith:
Kin hell, move 2 pictures down and one of Mervyn Applebys Sed Atki’s probably supplied by Rylands and salesman may have been our dearly departed friend Saviem, Thanks again,

I was right then

[deanb]

MrJake:
Was going to say some really good pics on here but they are ALL good pics. Seeing the Severn crossing reminds me of when it opened and the lorry toll was half-a-crown (2/6d/12p) each way, we used to have prepaid tickets and I remember only needing to slow down and hang out of the window to pay, before the days of the barriers. Five shillings for a there and back crossing is apparently about a fiver today.

Thanks for your comments “Mr Jake” much appreciated. I think the toll is best part of £20.00 for a
truck these days !

moomooland:
A. & R. Astbury (Plant Hire) Limited of Watling Street Bridgtown Cannock used to move a lot of plant for the nearby Caterpillar factory at Cannock.
The Leyland/AEC Marathon Reg No SHA 529R in the picture was registered new in April 1977.
Astbury’s were wound up in June 1996.

Thanks for the info chap,tidy looking Marathon.

pete smith:

moomooland:
A. & R. Astbury (Plant Hire) Limited of Watling Street Bridgtown Cannock used to move a lot of plant for the nearby Caterpillar factory at Cannock.
The Leyland/AEC Marathon Reg No SHA 529R in the picture was registered new in April 1977.
Astbury’s were wound up in June 1996.

Last motor’s they ran we’re white Merc’s,

Thanks for your input again Pete !

windrush:
The Mammoth on the Hoveringham lorry was used because the skeleton of a Mammoth was found in one of their gravel pits, not sure which one but I don’t think it was the one at Hoveringham? K&M haulage were based at Hucknall near Rolls-Royces airfield, they actually painted from new the Sed-Ak 400’s that Tilcon had at Ballidon quarry and when we steam cleaned them off for MOT most of the paint came off the cabs so they did them again!

The Sed-Ak is one of B.J Waters, still based at Darley Dale but moving anytime soon to the Ripley area I believe.

Pete.

Thanks Pete, i wondered what the Mammoth was all about ! Classic about the paint all coming off !!

That B.J. Waters i must be getting them mixed up as i am sure there is a company on the Isle of Wight
with a similar colour scheme that i thought was Waters ■■

BonkeyDollocks:

Brilliant pics! That’s the first S80 I’ve seen in Biesty colours (seen a few S83s but not the earlier model) and what about the Staveley S39! Also the first time I’ve seen that one. I have a pic of its sister but in Biesty colours I’ll post later after work.

The transport firm Biesty were owned by Staveley Lime and continued to run under the name til the early 80s when Staveley renamed their quarry operations ‘Peakstone’. Very interesting pics, I can only assume the lorries were both transporting lime. The Biesty fleet were usually employed on localised deliveries of Roadstone and aggregates so to see one on lime duties is particularly interesting.
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Thought you would like that chap ! Thanks for your comments !

Stanfield:

BonkeyDollocks:

DEANB:

Stanfield:
Hey Bonkey with all these Derbyshire tippers coming through we may eventually get one of Biestys Scammells (fingers crossed)

Thanks Dean & Paul For adding John Biesty photo much appreciated.Has Bonkey states John Biesty was taken over by Staveley Industries in 1973 and within weeks they had closed the depot in Manchester down making office and workshop staff (myself included) redundant but they kept the drivers for another 12 months or so.Always on the lookout for photos of there motors.

Thanks John for your comments !

BonkeyDollocks:

Just checked the images of Biesty lorries I have and turns out the S39 is the same lorry! Reposted Dean’s pic and the later repainted same lorry in Biesty colours! Dunno why it was repainted as it was the same company!

I also add a pic of the other ex Staveley Lime Foden that was bought by local haulage firm Hazelcroft Garage.

Thanks “BD” for your input and pics !

Punchy Dan:

pete smith:
Kin hell, move 2 pictures down and one of Mervyn Applebys Sed Atki’s probably supplied by Rylands and salesman may have been our dearly departed friend Saviem, Thanks again,

I was right then

[/quote]
Thanks for your input !

Well it was only a matter of time before some of the dodgy hauliers appeared
on here !

Can the sheeting experts give there score out of 10 !

[stanfield]

I bet someone slackened the ropes off for a laugh while he was on a break its couldn’t have been his night loaders fault they were experts.

[deanb]

Heres one for Stanfield and Bonkeydollocks !

[limey]

Crikey!
The two S39 tippers discussed earlier were only in Staveley livery for a relatively brief period before they were transferred to the Biesty fleet where they were christened the Flying Pig and the Plastic Pig. Before being delivered new to Staveley they were both on the Foden stand at some show in Germany. That is the only photo of either of them I have ever seen in Staveley livery.

Many thanks to Paul for this treasure trove of past times. Of course when he was taking these marvellous images all the sights would have been commonplace and mundane which makes the collection even more remarkable.