PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[240_gardner]

Bewick:

240 Gardner:

Bewick:
The upper “bumper” fitted to both the MK1 and Mk11 Atkys was called “The crash bar” and was probably assumed to save the glass fibre cab form more serious damage, whether this proved to be the case is probably open to debate but at least it was a recognised “adornment” for the Atky. In the final years of Atky production those [zb] from Oldham discontinued the cast crash bar for a “rolled” facsimile( probably to save money ) which was only for visual purposes in later years and probably bent like a “pig ring” in an Accident ! Not that any of the Atkys we ran at Bewick Transport were involved in “testing” either type of Crash bar ! Cheers Dennis.

It did worse, Dennis… I had one on my 6x2 Atki, and a gorilla with an AEC Matador, supposedly helping it into a steam fair whilst fully freighted and in ankle deep mud on a slope, managed to pull the top bumper into four pieces by setting off at right angles with the chain lying on the ground and not even pausing to take up the slack (I was some distance away in another wagon at the time)

And I can just imagine you sinking to your knees in the slutch with your head in your hands Chris ! I know I would Mate Then when you calmed down I bet the air turned “electric blue” eh! Cheers Dennis.

When I got to the wagon, it was parked up in the field, and it was already dark. Then I tried to close the cab door and it wouldn’t…

But fortunately, it was just the end of a rope draped out through the door 'ole and all was well when I moved it out of the way

All was well apart, pf course, from the 4-piece crash bar

And this was just getting IN to the venue

Fortunately, a nice man with another Matador, and with a much larger brain, pulled me gently backwards up the hill by the trailer to get out and showed everyone how it should be done. No sign of the idiot once daylight came, of course.

Needless to say, a cast bar went on the following weekend!

[buzzer]

A while back you had a shot of a rigid of Greenaways from Cornwall which I identified as they had very small signwriting on the cab and today on FB I found this but never knew they ran artics and usually carried banana’s, cheers Buzzer.

[bewick]

moomooland:
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A few Scammell production line shots along with an advert from the time.
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Great shots of the Scammell factory at Watford which looks like a very low key operation even in those days, I wonder how profitable they actually were within the Leyland group ? as compared to say Atkinson and ERF, as I was never much interested in Scammell I’m not sure what their yearly chassis build was but there always seemed plenty of them about in years gone by. Cheers Bewick.

[deanb]

moomooland:
A few Scammell production line shots along with an advert from the time.

Great pics once again Paul thanks for posting !

Mark R:
Love the Scammell Handyman photo, don’t know who’s it was though. Never heard of Glamon Haulage either, great Atki photo though.

Thanks for the comment Mark.

Retired Old ■■■■:
Glamorgan & Monmouthshire?

James.908:

moomooland:
A few Scammell production line shots along with an advert from the time.

United dairies scammell trunker JMW 330F…was based at the London dairy in shepherds bush. I used to ride shotgun in that with me dad.

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Brilliant James that must bring back some good memories !!

Bewick:

DEANB:
Rhys Davies & Son Volvo F88

Glamon Haulage Borderer.

Beacon Plant Bedford TM

Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson.

Triphos powder tanker Scania.

Bismin powder tanker ERF

Gunness Bedford TM.

Anyone recognise the DAF ■■?

BRS Daf

RG Miles F10

The name BISMIN stood for British Industrial Sand Minerals. Cheers Dennis.

Cheers Dennis !

kingswinford kit:

DEANB:
Some pics.

Anyone recognise the F88 ■■?

Anyone recognise the Scammell Handyman ■■?

Owens Borderer.
Hi DEAN ,the Sedd Atk is probably H A Edwards Pontardulais , Parsons pickles still in operating ,the Owens Atki ,with a load that looks like out Natural gas pipes Tredegar ,regards Keith

Bradley & Son Foden tanker.

Parson’s Pickles Mercedes.

S & S Transport Volvo F86

National Coal Board Scammell Crusader.

C & A Sayce F10

Effluent Disposal Fiat.

AA Bramalls Ltd ERF

Thanks for the info Keith !

240 Gardner:

Bewick:
The upper “bumper” fitted to both the MK1 and Mk11 Atkys was called “The crash bar” and was probably assumed to save the glass fibre cab form more serious damage, whether this proved to be the case is probably open to debate but at least it was a recognised “adornment” for the Atky. In the final years of Atky production those [zb] from Oldham discontinued the cast crash bar for a “rolled” facsimile( probably to save money ) which was only for visual purposes in later years and probably bent like a “pig ring” in an Accident ! Not that any of the Atkys we ran at Bewick Transport were involved in “testing” either type of Crash bar ! Cheers Dennis.

It did worse, Dennis… I had one on my 6x2 Atki, and a gorilla with an AEC Matador, supposedly helping it into a steam fair whilst fully freighted and in ankle deep mud on a slope, managed to pull the top bumper into four pieces by setting off at right angles with the chain lying on the ground and not even pausing to take up the slack (I was some distance away in another wagon at the time)

Nasty !

Bewick:

240 Gardner:

Bewick:
The upper “bumper” fitted to both the MK1 and Mk11 Atkys was called “The crash bar” and was probably assumed to save the glass fibre cab form more serious damage, whether this proved to be the case is probably open to debate but at least it was a recognised “adornment” for the Atky. In the final years of Atky production those [zb] from Oldham discontinued the cast crash bar for a “rolled” facsimile( probably to save money ) which was only for visual purposes in later years and probably bent like a “pig ring” in an Accident ! Not that any of the Atkys we ran at Bewick Transport were involved in “testing” either type of Crash bar ! Cheers Dennis.

It did worse, Dennis… I had one on my 6x2 Atki, and a gorilla with an AEC Matador, supposedly helping it into a steam fair whilst fully freighted and in ankle deep mud on a slope, managed to pull the top bumper into four pieces by setting off at right angles with the chain lying on the ground and not even pausing to take up the slack (I was some distance away in another wagon at the time)

And I can just imagine you sinking to your knees in the slutch with your head in your hands Chris ! I know I would Mate Then when you calmed down I bet the air turned “electric blue” eh! Cheers Dennis.

240 Gardner:

Bewick:

240 Gardner:

Bewick:
The upper “bumper” fitted to both the MK1 and Mk11 Atkys was called “The crash bar” and was probably assumed to save the glass fibre cab form more serious damage, whether this proved to be the case is probably open to debate but at least it was a recognised “adornment” for the Atky. In the final years of Atky production those [zb] from Oldham discontinued the cast crash bar for a “rolled” facsimile( probably to save money ) which was only for visual purposes in later years and probably bent like a “pig ring” in an Accident ! Not that any of the Atkys we ran at Bewick Transport were involved in “testing” either type of Crash bar ! Cheers Dennis.

It did worse, Dennis… I had one on my 6x2 Atki, and a gorilla with an AEC Matador, supposedly helping it into a steam fair whilst fully freighted and in ankle deep mud on a slope, managed to pull the top bumper into four pieces by setting off at right angles with the chain lying on the ground and not even pausing to take up the slack (I was some distance away in another wagon at the time)

And I can just imagine you sinking to your knees in the slutch with your head in your hands Chris ! I know I would Mate Then when you calmed down I bet the air turned “electric blue” eh! Cheers Dennis.

When I got to the wagon, it was parked up in the field, and it was already dark. Then I tried to close the cab door and it wouldn’t…

But fortunately, it was just the end of a rope draped out through the door 'ole and all was well when I moved it out of the way

All was well apart, pf course, from the 4-piece crash bar

And this was just getting IN to the venue

Fortunately, a nice man with another Matador, and with a much larger brain, pulled me gently backwards up the hill by the trailer to get out and showed everyone how it should be done. No sign of the idiot once daylight came, of course.

Needless to say, a cast bar went on the following weekend!

Thank christ the bloke with the matador was there !

Buzzer:
A while back you had a shot of a rigid of Greenaways from Cornwall which I identified as they had very small signwriting on the cab and today on FB I found this but never knew they ran artics and usually carried banana’s, cheers Buzzer.

Indeed you did Buzzer , Here it is again !

Bewick:

moomooland:
A few Scammell production line shots along with an advert from the time.

Great shots of the Scammell factory at Watford which looks like a very low key operation even in those days, I wonder how profitable they actually were within the Leyland group ? as compared to say Atkinson and ERF, as I was never much interested in Scammell I’m not sure what their yearly chassis build was but there always seemed plenty of them about in years gone by. Cheers Bewick.

Must admit i thought it looked a bit laid back,does not look like it was the quickest production life !

[carryfast]

Bewick:
Great shots of the Scammell factory at Watford which looks like a very low key operation even in those days,

This is the end days of my first employers factory a while after I’d gone.

youtube.com/watch?v=MDUxLjOJrIE 3.33 - 4.50

[deanb]

Some pics.

Foden of Hoover’s.

Worldwide tankers Seddon Atkinson.

Hodge ERF

ICI ERF

Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson.

Anyone recognise the Foden bulker ■■? Looks a bit tired !

B Chilton & Son Seddon Atkinson. This company run a smart fleet as we have already had a nice
Volvo and Scania so a very mixed fleet as well.

Bolton roadways DAF

Surprised no one knows this company as this is the 3rd Volvo we have had in this colour scheme ■■?

Yorkshire Imperial Metals Seddon

[deanb]

Carryfast:

Bewick:
Great shots of the Scammell factory at Watford which looks like a very low key operation even in those days,

This is the end days of my first employers factory a while after I’d gone.

youtube.com/watch?v=MDUxLjOJrIE 3.33 - 4.50

Good film thanks for posting !

[punchy_dan]

The yellow sed Atki could be from Sheffield ,I’ve got Blagdon in my mind ?

[gingerfold]

Bewick:

moomooland:
4
A few Scammell production line shots along with an advert from the time.
3
2
1
0

Great shots of the Scammell factory at Watford which looks like a very low key operation even in those days, I wonder how profitable they actually were within the Leyland group ? as compared to say Atkinson and ERF, as I was never much interested in Scammell I’m not sure what their yearly chassis build was but there always seemed plenty of them about in years gone by. Cheers Bewick.

I had a tour of the Scammell factory in 1985, when it was getting towards the end of its days. I was surprised how cramped for space it was and how basic the assembly facilities were. It had obviously been starved of capital investment for many years, although the site had no room for expansion. Scammell management enjoyed far more autonomy and had much less interference from head office than any other Leyland group subsidiary. It was the smallest chassis assembly plant of the Leyland group and in a busy year typically it would build 1,500 to 1,600 chassis, but remember it took much longer to build a heavy haulage job than a Highwayman or Handyman, plus it also built trailers. Of all the group subsidiaries Scammell always enjoyed a good relationship with AEC.

[coomsey]

Ex Orpwoods Donisthorpe?

[frankydobo]

I had a tour of the Scammell factory in 1985, when it was getting towards the end of its days. I was surprised how cramped for space it was and how basic the assembly facilities were. It had obviously been starved of capital investment for many years, although the site had no room for expansion. Scammell management enjoyed far more autonomy and had much less interference from head office than any other Leyland group subsidiary. It was the smallest chassis assembly plant of the Leyland group and in a busy year typically it would build 1,500 to 1,600 chassis, but remember it took much longer to build a heavy haulage job than a Highwayman or Handyman, plus it also built trailers. Of all the group subsidiaries Scammell always enjoyed a good relationship with AEC.
gingerfold

Interesting Graham, a 90’s tour of the Dennis factory was in similar vein. You always imagine these places are tip top assembly line enterprises similar to say the current Nissan factory but some of the things seen seemed from the 40’s or 50’s, makes you understand how certain makers declined. Franky.

[paul_john]

Dan, I think the SED/Atki may belong to Richard (Dickie) Marsden as it looks like Lansing Henley on the headboard. They did a lot of work for Henley Forklifts Pontlanfraith.
The Glamon Atki looks like one out of Glyn Johns hire fleet and its pulling one of his trailers. possible he bought Glamon to get some work!
Kingswinford kit, that doesn’t look like Natural Gas Tube product on Owens trailer, plus you had to have side posts or U shape channel to load pipe out of there.
B Chilton had some nice looking trucks, mostly Volvo’s and a nice yard and garage in Oakdale. Used to have a local guy load trailers and road guys haul arse up and down the road. Got caught doing naughty stuff, sort of disappeared when he did time!

[punchy_dan]

I’ll have a look ,I think I have some pics with lancing Henley on the headboard .

[smallcoal]

Paul John:
Dan, I think the SED/Atki may belong to Richard (Dickie) Marsden as it looks like Lansing Henley on the headboard. They did a lot of work for Henley Forklifts Pontlanfraith.
The Glamon Atki looks like one out of Glyn Johns hire fleet and its pulling one of his trailers. possible he bought Glamon to get some work!
Kingswinford kit, that doesn’t look like Natural Gas Tube product on Owens trailer, plus you had to have side posts or U shape channel to load pipe out of there.
B Chilton had some nice looking trucks, mostly Volvo’s and a nice yard and garage in Oakdale. Used to have a local guy load trailers and road guys haul arse up and down the road. Got caught doing naughty stuff, sort of disappeared when he did time!

Hi Paul John ,glad you and family ok hopefully it should be the last storm has gone ,re ngt I pulled them with tdw we had goal posts on the trailers which when loaded were great ,when empty we put them upside down on the back so as to put backload on which was normally fertiliser out of immingham for Tregaron cheers John

[deanb]

Punchy Dan:
The yellow sed Atki could be from Sheffield ,I’ve got Blagdon in my mind ?

Thanks Dan, any pics of Blagdon ■■?

gingerfold:

Bewick:

moomooland:
4
A few Scammell production line shots along with an advert from the time.
3
2
1
0

Great shots of the Scammell factory at Watford which looks like a very low key operation even in those days, I wonder how profitable they actually were within the Leyland group ? as compared to say Atkinson and ERF, as I was never much interested in Scammell I’m not sure what their yearly chassis build was but there always seemed plenty of them about in years gone by. Cheers Bewick.

I had a tour of the Scammell factory in 1985, when it was getting towards the end of its days. I was surprised how cramped for space it was and how basic the assembly facilities were. It had obviously been starved of capital investment for many years, although the site had no room for expansion. Scammell management enjoyed far more autonomy and had much less interference from head office than any other Leyland group subsidiary. It was the smallest chassis assembly plant of the Leyland group and in a busy year typically it would build 1,500 to 1,600 chassis, but remember it took much longer to build a heavy haulage job than a Highwayman or Handyman, plus it also built trailers. Of all the group subsidiaries Scammell always enjoyed a good relationship with AEC.

Thanks Graham, the pics confirm what you have said !

coomsey:
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Ex Orpwoods Donisthorpe?

Yes very similar Coomsey !

Frankydobo:
I had a tour of the Scammell factory in 1985, when it was getting towards the end of its days. I was surprised how cramped for space it was and how basic the assembly facilities were. It had obviously been starved of capital investment for many years, although the site had no room for expansion. Scammell management enjoyed far more autonomy and had much less interference from head office than any other Leyland group subsidiary. It was the smallest chassis assembly plant of the Leyland group and in a busy year typically it would build 1,500 to 1,600 chassis, but remember it took much longer to build a heavy haulage job than a Highwayman or Handyman, plus it also built trailers. Of all the group subsidiaries Scammell always enjoyed a good relationship with AEC.
gingerfold

Interesting Graham, a 90’s tour of the Dennis factory was in similar vein. You always imagine these places are tip top assembly line enterprises similar to say the current Nissan factory but some of the things seen seemed from the 40’s or 50’s, makes you understand how certain makers declined. Franky.

Thanks for your comment Franky ! As far as i know Dennis are still going ■■? You still see fire engines.

Paul John:
Dan, I think the SED/Atki may belong to Richard (Dickie) Marsden as it looks like Lansing Henley on the headboard. They did a lot of work for Henley Forklifts Pontlanfraith.
The Glamon Atki looks like one out of Glyn Johns hire fleet and its pulling one of his trailers. possible he bought Glamon to get some work!
Kingswinford kit, that doesn’t look like Natural Gas Tube product on Owens trailer, plus you had to have side posts or U shape channel to load pipe out of there.
B Chilton had some nice looking trucks, mostly Volvo’s and a nice yard and garage in Oakdale. Used to have a local guy load trailers and road guys haul arse up and down the road. Got caught doing naughty stuff, sort of disappeared when he did time!

Do you have any more pics of there trucks Paul as they seemed very smart from the pics that Paul took.
When you say “caught doing naughty stuff” i assume you are talking hours etc and were caught by the
ministry ■■?

Punchy Dan:
I’ll have a look ,I think I have some pics with lancing Henley on the headboard .

smallcoal:

Paul John:
Dan, I think the SED/Atki may belong to Richard (Dickie) Marsden as it looks like Lansing Henley on the headboard. They did a lot of work for Henley Forklifts Pontlanfraith.
The Glamon Atki looks like one out of Glyn Johns hire fleet and its pulling one of his trailers. possible he bought Glamon to get some work!
Kingswinford kit, that doesn’t look like Natural Gas Tube product on Owens trailer, plus you had to have side posts or U shape channel to load pipe out of there.
B Chilton had some nice looking trucks, mostly Volvo’s and a nice yard and garage in Oakdale. Used to have a local guy load trailers and road guys haul arse up and down the road. Got caught doing naughty stuff, sort of disappeared when he did time!

Hi Paul John ,glad you and family ok hopefully it should be the last storm has gone ,re ngt I pulled them with tdw we had goal posts on the trailers which when loaded were great ,when empty we put them upside down on the back so as to put backload on which was normally fertiliser out of immingham for Tregaron cheers John

Thanks for your comments John !

[deanb]

St Michael’s Fuels Defender.

Anyone recognise the DAF Tanker ■■?

Bridon Seddon Atkinson 400

H Davies transport Guy

Glyn John transport F86

Cant make the name out on the Crusader ■■?

H Beesley & Sons Guy tanker.

Transcon looks pretty new,anyone recognise it ■■?

Western BRS Guy.

Looks like Hoveringham Seddon Atkinson.

[deanb]

An article about a restored Borderer that may intrest some of the Borderer fans on here.

Click on pages twice to read.

[deanb]

Bowman’s Bedford.

[spud1960]

DEANB:
St Michael’s Fuels Defender.

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Anyone recognise the DAF Tanker ■■?

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Bridon Seddon Atkinson 400

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H Davies transport Guy

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Glyn John transport F86

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Cant make the name out on the Crusader ■■?

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Steve Cook is the man to ask

H Beesley & Sons Guy tanker.

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Transcon looks pretty new,anyone recognise it ■■?

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Western BRS Guy.

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Looks like Hoveringham Seddon Atkinson.

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definitely Hoveringham or ex Hoveringham there is the mammoth logo on it.

[suedehead]

DEANB:
St Michael’s Fuels Defender.

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Anyone recognise the DAF Tanker ■■?

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Bridon Seddon Atkinson 400

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H Davies transport Guy

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Glyn John transport F86

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Cant make the name out on the Crusader ■■?

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H Beesley & Sons Guy tanker.

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Transcon looks pretty new,anyone recognise it ■■?

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Western BRS Guy.

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Looks like Hoveringham Seddon Atkinson.

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Cant wait for Bewicks opinion of the sheeting on the Brs Guy