240 Gardner:
flishflunk:
Great picture of Preston Docks from Paul. All the trailers appear to be Scammell couplings.
Yes indeed… BRS with a strong presence there, presaging Containerway, and note the bonneted Commers from the then young operation of Northern Ireland Trailers
Thanks for your comments “240Gardner” 
240 Gardner:
Spud1960:
moomooland:
2This is a brand new Seddon Atkinson 400 Series tractor unit in factory primer probably being delivered to a customer in South Wales on trade plates.Notice how the rear wings and stays already seem to be coated in rust “Quality British engineering” at its best and people ask what happened to our truck industry no doubt mild steel wings stored outside and someone will be expecting the paint shop to rub them down and prep them when in reality they’ll have had a coat of primer and gloss and be rotting off in two years.
1Here’s a brand new 401 in the same factory paint job.
0The last Atkinson Defender to be built at Walton le Dale with the then brand new 400 Series moving up the production line all in factory primer.To be fair to the factory, the rear wings were not factory-fit
240 Gardner:
ramone:
moomooland:
2This is a brand new Seddon Atkinson 400 Series tractor unit in factory primer probably being delivered to a customer in South Wales on trade plates.
1Here’s a brand new 401 in the same factory paint job.
0The last Atkinson Defender to be built at Walton le Dale with the then brand new 400 Series moving up the production line all in factory primer.How long did the Atkinson factory stay open after the merger , I thought everything moved to Oldham?
The takeover (rather than a merger) was completed late in 1970 after a long battle, during which both ERF and Foden tried to buy Atkinson, and in which the Atkinson board resisted with all means at their disposal. However, the success of the late Seddon bid was sealed when Leyland Motors agreed to sell their 20% holding in Atkinson.
The last true Atkinson was built in April 1975 (the Defender in the photo Paul posted: chassis FC29941, reg KVT 604P), after which the Walton-le-Dale factory built all the multi-axle 400 Series rigids (essentially Atkinson designs) together with tractor units according to spec.
The Atkinson works closed at the end of 1981, having built, if I remember rightly, the first 250 of the new 401 model. Most of the early 401 publicity photos were taken in the vicinity of the Atkinson works too. All staff were made redundant at that time too, including the Works Director, Stan Husband, and who was the only Atkinson director to stay on after the takeover. Some functions and staff had previously transferred to Oldham, including the much respected Atkinson ‘Publicity & Promotions Manager’, the late Frank Whalley. Frank later became Publicity Manager for Seddon Atkinson following the retirement of his Seddon counterpart
Thanks for the information Chris ! Its amazing the amount of knowledge by the member’s on here ! 
moomooland:
Here’s another busy scene Dean taken at Hull Docks in 1961.0
Sort that lot outClick on picture to view full size.
Brilliant stuff Paul !
240 Gardner:
moomooland:
240 Gardner:
]I remember reading an article in Comical Motor about Bowie, and their programme of re-cabbing some of these old LVs with B Series cabs: because of the axle position, the cab was mounted well forward, and the engine reached to the back of the sleeper cab, giving the false impression that they had 8-pot engines in themFunny you should mention that Chris.
Here’s before and after pictures of KMA 640L transformed from a LV to a B Series.
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0More Bowie for you Paul:
imcdb.org/vehicle_603141-ERF-B-Series.htmlAnd some others close to your heart:
imcdb.org/movie_290990-Travelling-Man.html
I had forgotten all about that website Chris !
Regarding loads of timber on the previous page, hows this for a full load. 
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Thats a serious load ,nice pic !
Sniffy:
240 Gardner:
Spud1960:
moomooland:
2This is a brand new Seddon Atkinson 400 Series tractor unit in factory primer probably being delivered to a customer in South Wales on trade plates.Notice how the rear wings and stays already seem to be coated in rust “Quality British engineering” at its best and people ask what happened to our truck industry no doubt mild steel wings stored outside and someone will be expecting the paint shop to rub them down and prep them when in reality they’ll have had a coat of primer and gloss and be rotting off in two years.
1Here’s a brand new 401 in the same factory paint job.
0The last Atkinson Defender to be built at Walton le Dale with the then brand new 400 Series moving up the production line all in factory primer.To be fair to the factory, the rear wings were not factory-fit
It Looks like a pet reg tractor, front mount exhaust and firescreen thus the Weathered rear wings, steel for fire suppression maybe, so non factory
Cheers Sniffy !
240 Gardner:
moomooland:
2This is a brand new Seddon Atkinson 400 Series tractor unit in factory primer probably being delivered to a customer in South Wales on trade plates.Notice how the rear wings and stays already seem to be coated in rust “Quality British engineering” at its best and people ask what happened to our truck industry no doubt mild steel wings stored outside and someone will be expecting the paint shop to rub them down and prep them when in reality they’ll have had a coat of primer and gloss and be rotting off in two years.
1Here’s a brand new 401 in the same factory paint job.
0The last Atkinson Defender to be built at Walton le Dale with the then brand new 400 Series moving up the production line all in factory primer.To be fair to the factory, the rear wings were not factory-fit
It Looks like a pet reg tractor, front mount exhaust and firescreen thus the Weathered rear wings, steel for fire suppression maybe, so non factory
Well spotted, that man, hence the steel rear wings. Although they would never be factory fit anyway in those days
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albion1938:
moomooland:
Here’s another busy scene Dean taken at Hull Docks in 1961.0
Sort that lot outClick on picture to view full size.
All that going on and not a Hi-Vis in sight — however did anyone survive?
Bernard
Cheers Bernard !
Spud1960:
To be fair to the factory, the rear wings were not factory-fit
It Looks like a pet reg tractor, front mount exhaust and firescreen thus the Weathered rear wings, steel for fire suppression maybe, so non factory
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Well spotted, that man, hence the steel rear wings. Although they would never be factory fit anyway in those days
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Fair point regarding non factory fit.
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Bewick:
moomooland:
Cheers Chris thanks for the links.Regarding loads of timber on the previous page, hows this for a full load.
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Uking 'ell ! he’d have to gan canny with that load, a tandem 4 and what would have been an old Guy Warrior !
Cheers Dennis.
Looks a tad high Dennis !
Retired Old ■■■■:
moomooland:
Cheers Chris thanks for the links.Regarding loads of timber on the previous page, hows this for a full load.
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I’ll bet that was interesting in the bends with the narrow chassis & super singles!
gingerfold:
Slipped loads of timber were not uncommon sights back in the day.
I am not surprised looking at that load Graham !
moomooland:
Here are couple more interesting loads for you Dennis.Seeing as Dean is having a day off today i think we have done the loading of steel to death, now here’s the timber.
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More great pics Paul, some of the loading back then looks dodgy !
Bewick:
gingerfold:
Bewick:
moomooland:
Here are couple more interesting loads for you Dennis.Seeing as Dean is having a day off today i think we have done the loading of steel to death, now here’s the timber.
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How far do you think to-days “Steering Wheel Attendants” would get driving that BRS AEC ? Probably not as far as the old BRS Driver got ! Cheers Bewick.
They’d be lucky to have got across Tower Bridge.
“Are the mudguards touching the tyres yet Drive ?”
My wife has just rushed through to find out why i was on the floor laughing, great post, thanks. Harvey
Bewick:
moomooland:
Here are couple more interesting loads for you Dennis.Seeing as Dean is having a day off today i think we have done the loading of steel to death, now here’s the timber.
How far do you think to-days “Steering Wheel Attendants” would get driving that BRS AEC ? Probably not as far as the old BRS Driver got ! Cheers Bewick.
Thanks for your answer on that Dennis !
moomooland:
Bewick:
How far do you think to-days “Steering Wheel Attendants” would get driving that BRS AEC ? Probably not as far as the old BRS Driver got ! Cheers Bewick.How right you are Dennis
Would be interesting to watch one of today’s steering wheel attendants take this Dodge hauling that single axle trailer round a roundabout.2
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0S Scott & Sons Ltd of Oldham operated this ERF LV prime mover Reg No XBU 770H which was powered by a Gardner 180 engine.
It is seen here in 1974 hauling a draw-bar trailer loaded with a return load of timber heading north from Tilbury Docks with the late Alan Collins at the wheel.
Impressed with your selection of photos Paul !
gingerfold:
Bewick:
moomooland:
Here are couple more interesting loads for you Dennis.Seeing as Dean is having a day off today i think we have done the loading of steel to death, now here’s the timber.
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How far do you think to-days “Steering Wheel Attendants” would get driving that BRS AEC ? Probably not as far as the old BRS Driver got ! Cheers Bewick.
They’d be lucky to have got across Tower Bridge.
Never knew that ?
Bewick:
gingerfold:
Bewick:
moomooland:
Here are couple more interesting loads for you Dennis.Seeing as Dean is having a day off today i think we have done the loading of steel to death, now here’s the timber.
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How far do you think to-days “Steering Wheel Attendants” would get driving that BRS AEC ? Probably not as far as the old BRS Driver got ! Cheers Bewick.
They’d be lucky to have got across Tower Bridge.
“Are the mudguards touching the tyres yet Drive ?”
Quality Dennis !!
Some pics.
Anyone recognise the F88 ■■?
Anyone recognise the Scammell Handyman ■■?
Owens Borderer.
Bradley & Son Foden tanker.
Parson’s Pickles Mercedes.
S & S Transport Volvo F86
National Coal Board Scammell Crusader.
C & A Sayce F10
Effluent Disposal Fiat.
AA Bramalls Ltd ERF
Rhys Davies & Son Volvo F88
Glamon Haulage Borderer.
Beacon Plant Bedford TM
Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson.
Triphos powder tanker Scania.
Bismin powder tanker ERF
Gunness Bedford TM.
Anyone recognise the DAF ■■?
BRS Daf
RG Miles F10
Love the Scammell Handyman photo, don’t know who’s it was though. Never heard of Glamon Haulage either, great Atki photo though.
Glamorgan & Monmouthshire?
moomooland:
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A few Scammell production line shots along with an advert from the time.
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United dairies scammell trunker JMW 330F…was based at the London dairy in shepherds bush. I used to ride shotgun in that with me dad.
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DEANB:
Rhys Davies & Son Volvo F880
Glamon Haulage Borderer.
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Beacon Plant Bedford TM
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Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson.
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Triphos powder tanker Scania.
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Bismin powder tanker ERF
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Gunness Bedford TM.
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Anyone recognise the DAF ■■?
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BRS Daf
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RG Miles F10
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The name BISMIN stood for British Industrial Sand Minerals. Cheers Dennis.
DEANB:
Some pics.Anyone recognise the F88 ■■?
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Anyone recognise the Scammell Handyman ■■?
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Owens Borderer.
Hi DEAN ,the Sedd Atk is probably H A Edwards Pontardulais , Parsons pickles still in operating ,the Owens Atki ,with a load that looks like out Natural gas pipes Tredegar ,regards Keith
8Bradley & Son Foden tanker.
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Parson’s Pickles Mercedes.
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S & S Transport Volvo F86
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National Coal Board Scammell Crusader.
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C & A Sayce F10
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Effluent Disposal Fiat.
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AA Bramalls Ltd ERF
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Bewick:
The upper “bumper” fitted to both the MK1 and Mk11 Atkys was called “The crash bar” and was probably assumed to save the glass fibre cab form more serious damage, whether this proved to be the case is probably open to debate but at least it was a recognised “adornment” for the Atky. In the final years of Atky production those [zb] from Oldham discontinued the cast crash bar for a “rolled” facsimile( probably to save money) which was only for visual purposes in later years and probably bent like a “pig ring” in an Accident ! Not that any of the Atkys we ran at Bewick Transport were involved in “testing” either type of Crash bar !
It did worse, Dennis… I had one on my 6x2 Atki, and a gorilla with an AEC Matador, supposedly helping it into a steam fair whilst fully freighted and in ankle deep mud on a slope, managed to pull the top bumper into four pieces by setting off at right angles with the chain lying on the ground and not even pausing to take up the slack (I was some distance away in another wagon at the time)
240 Gardner:
Bewick:
The upper “bumper” fitted to both the MK1 and Mk11 Atkys was called “The crash bar” and was probably assumed to save the glass fibre cab form more serious damage, whether this proved to be the case is probably open to debate but at least it was a recognised “adornment” for the Atky. In the final years of Atky production those [zb] from Oldham discontinued the cast crash bar for a “rolled” facsimile( probably to save moneyIt did worse, Dennis… I had one on my 6x2 Atki, and a gorilla with an AEC Matador, supposedly helping it into a steam fair whilst fully freighted and in ankle deep mud on a slope, managed to pull the top bumper into four pieces by setting off at right angles with the chain lying on the ground and not even pausing to take up the slack (I was some distance away in another wagon at the time)
And I can just imagine you sinking to your knees in the slutch with your head in your hands Chris ! I know I would Mate 
Then when you calmed down I bet the air turned “electric blue” eh! Cheers Dennis.
