Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 2)

All Saudi bound brand new apparently

Is the standard ‘A’ series partially hidden, and lurking on the end, (and presumably bog standard poverty spec day cab) among the top spec ERFs, on their way to Saudi, the ‘punishment motor’ for somebody ?
Knowing my luck that would have MY name on it. :joy:
‘Got some good news and bad news for you Rob, you are getting a new motor, but guess which one you are getting’
:joy:

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They were prepared by S Jones of Aldridge for their subsidiary company in Saudi called Trans Arabia. The six NGCs were brand new and had Cummins 290s with 13-sp Fullers. The old LV-cabbed unit (not an A-series, Rob!) was in good nick so they sent it out as a shunter and locals unit. The other six ERF NGCs they sent out were 2nd hand and most of those had Cummins NTC 335s with 9-sp Fullers. Then there were the LHD B-series and yes, an A-series plus several Macks and Kenworths. See the Trans Arabia thread for full details!

Somebody else on here once picked me up on that A series/LV ERF thing.
What were the differences?
I’m assuming the A was the ‘mk2’ LV?



Ade

Mostly to do with the name, Rob. The LV is the name of that particular cab shape. As you know, a lot of different spec ERFs had LV cabs for many years. Then the A-series ERF chassis was designed and put on the market and it was given a face-lift LV cab with a square grille on the front (see the contrasting pics below). It was only then that people started calling the old pre-A-series units ‘LVs’, not realising that A-series had LV cabs too - 7LV cabs to be precise. Basically, A-series is a chassis; LV is a cab. Older chassis with LV cabs continued to be made and sold long after the A-series came along. The A-series was only ever a unit, not a rigid (they did try a draw-bar version which was unsuccessful). Hope that helps!

The Jones unit is A-series with a 7LV cab. The RRead unit is an old ERF with an LV cab.

Ro


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One for you Oily, think its Glasgow market, Buzzer

nmp

Oh yeah,.I see the difference now with your pics…cheers.

I used to travel tramping with a mate in my pre trucking days in his A series…(day cab.)
So I had to sleep under the sheet on the flat trailer, (while he had his board across the engine cover) so I needed a good few pints to sleep in the cold…(that was my excuse anyway.:joy:)

As for the LV, my first artic job was with ‘Robert Frazer steel suppliers’ they had a yard shunter which I tried to reverse non pas a few times.:smile:
I had a day cab B series on that job.

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Bloody nightmare, markets. I avoided them when I could, getting in and out with hardly any room to spare, hanging about at the whim of the receiver. I once was delivering apples to Spitalfields. I waited outside the delivery point for an hour then all of a sudden it was quick quick hurry up and the boxes were flying off the back. Then it stopped and I waited on the trailer, and waited, and waited, then off again as if someone’s life rested on it. I soon realised that he was using me as a stall, in other words as soon as someone came in and wanted 6 cases, off they came, and then nothing 'till the next buyer arrived.

Rungis Paris was no better, and I had to pay to get in there. :astonished:

The best was when I lived here, early 2000s, Covent Garden. I pulled up outside, late afternoon prepared to park up and sleep but first wandered over to the only toll booth open and asked the bloke if he took euros. He said no so I went back to the lorry, made sure I had enough pounds, and then drew forward to pay him. But he said no, foreigners don’t pay, you can go in for free. So I did and had a quiet night 'till about midnight when it all started kicking off. There was a cafe right next to me which served excellent grub, and when my bloke arrived he got stuck in straight away and I was soon gone.

It wasn’t the only time in England I was given special treatment as a ‘foreigner’, didn’t always go down well with some English drivers, 'till they realised that I could understand their muttered grumbles. :rofl:

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Mid 60’s at Bowaters Ellesmere Port loaded with newsprint for their Scottish trunk.
No loading reels like that nowadays ! All have to be stood on end oi curtainsiders !