Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 2)

The answer would appear to be ‘yes’. Here are pictures of later Leyland Hippo exports to Australia showing a Scammell-style wings / double headlamp assembly.


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I am a big fan of twin heads and have no idea why they went out of fashion.

Living where I do, surrounded by forests, night driving is a nightmare as the full beam to be any use at all must be too high for the level of singles when dipped.

Some of it was fashion I think.
Why have a simple round, universal fitment that is cheap to produce and replace when you can have an expensive and unique to each vehicle lamp?

But maybe now there is some advantage in having aerodynamically curved lamps. But how much each component makes to economy is small.

I do agree that twin round lamps, dip and main being adjustable separately, are so easy and cheap.

I’ll bet that the lights on bars etc bolted on trucks must have those engineers who spent months clearing airflow around cabs banging their heads!

Before PACCAR, there was DAF (flickr link below)

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Your bottom picture is the same truck.

Thought it might be!

It looks to have been taken at the same time. It’s a rough old banger.

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… a tick-over.

Yes, I know it’s a bus (a PD2 Leyland) but still.

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A mate’s truck, the TiC name on the bug deflecter is Lout’s Lorry.

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Just another day in the wet season.

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Did you ever get inside an Aussie Atki, SDU, I have read that they were hot and dusty.?

I believe they were, but what wasn’t back then?
I was still in D Series Fords, Dodge D5Ns and the likes in Aitkinson heydays, so fortunately never had to endure one.

Just another winter day for Venture bus crews especially in the Shotley Bridge, Blackhill area.

Another name I haven’t seen here for a long while. Hope all is well your end L600

Yes thanks older and creakier after driving Foden S21 8 wheeler and ERF 66GX plus Leyland coaches and a PD2 decker. Enjoyed it all but wouldn’t want all the H&S’ VOSA hassle of these times.

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The British way was generally for the outers at least to be twin filament dip and main beam and also main beam inners.
From memory our specialist types used twin cibie dip and main beam units.
The continental idea of dip outers and main beam inners like BMW and think DAF 2800 was pathetic.

My '71 Stag was permanent dip outers, and the inners switched on with them as main beams.
Worked OK for me.

I’ve never seen one of those bonneted Hippos before, but thinking back I may have.
There is a truck with what looks like a Leyland badge on, looking very much like that in a yard on the road to Westbury I think it is,.which has had me puzzled as to what it was.
Next time I pass I will try and get a pic.

In meantime, I visited Dundee transport museum last week while on a break with the Mrs.







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First thing I noticed was the full windscreen.
Asked the bloke, who told me they could not get the original split windscreen parts.
Only noticed because I used to travel miles with my Dad as a kid…it was by no means a modern truck even at that time.

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The 2000/2.5 saloon was dip and main outer, main inner I’d doubt that the Stag wasn’t the same.

A perfect sleeper cab, what more could you ask for, no chance of rolling out of bed in the middle of the night. :wink:

And I am not joking, back in its day we would have been more than happy with that setup. :joy: