Spardo:
Indeed Kev, I can think of at least one reason why that is not a good idea. With front wheel drive but most of the weight rearwards, difficult to get a grip in the wet or on gravelly roads. I am having the same problem with my trike, the electric motor is in the front wheel hub and can be a bit hairy because, not only does it lose grip on the 1 in 10 up the last 100 metres to my house, but it skids sideways in doing so.
I have fitted handlebar extensions like the racers have so that I can get some weight forward with my elbows on the handlebars but that is only partially successful as it isnāt so easy to steer like that. Yesterday, my masterstroke. I fitted a 5 litre cubitainer filled with water under those bars. First test is today.
Perhaps convert it to a monocycle-style seating (that is you would sit over the front, driven wheel) and let the 2 trailing wheels simplyā¦trail!
Or go back to the drawing board!
Good luck with it and have fun. Please tell us how you get on.
I made it. But had a change of heart before setting out and transferred the cubi to on, instead of under, the bars, more secure but also more top heavy. Bloody hard work in power 5 of the electro assist and crawler of 7 in the derailleur.
Come to think of it, my old Atki struggled, and definitely wouldnāt restart, on a 1 in 10 so obviously these 77 year old legs have more power than a 150 Gardner and 6 DBs.
oiltreader:
Thanks to Buzzer and Punchy Dan for the pics .
Oily
Vic Haines still going and looking at their website and FB latest wagons look to be Scania and MAN.
A couple of faithfull ERFs with thanks to SCP.
Hi Oily ,Vic Haines from Pershore ,had a few ex Richard Read ERFs ,still going strong and a very smart line up ,regards Keith
Buzzer:
Found this fascinating a German invention from the 1930s a motorcycle with engine within the front wheel, it took 3 years to develop this model but obviously it never took off, Buzzer
It never took off Buzzer because itās a motorcycle not a plane!
Spardo:
Indeed Kev, I can think of at least one reason why that is not a good idea. With front wheel drive but most of the weight rearwards, difficult to get a grip in the wet or on gravelly roads. I am having the same problem with my trike, the electric motor is in the front wheel hub and can be a bit hairy because, not only does it lose grip on the 1 in 10 up the last 100 metres to my house, but it skids sideways in doing so.
I have fitted handlebar extensions like the racers have so that I can get some weight forward with my elbows on the handlebars but that is only partially successful as it isnāt so easy to steer like that. Yesterday, my masterstroke. I fitted a 5 litre cubitainer filled with water under those bars. First test is today.
Spardo, have a word with Harry Gill, legend has it he had a 240 Gardner fitted in his mobility scooter not much bother with traction there! . The smoke screen was something else though!! Regards Kev. Ps. We had a lot of laughs on the Geordies reunion threads a few years back on this subject.
Seeing the pics of Oldhams of Barford, Warks, reminded me of another Barford outfit.
JuFreight International had a address in Barford, Had contracts with Potterton Boilers, Leamington
and Fairline Boats, Oundle, Did a one off for them in a ex Bradys of Barrow Scania 110 day cab
to Rotterdam, reg HEO ā ā ?. Never seen a pic of one of their motors, as anyone else.?
Buzzer:
Being we are talking motors in wheels how about motors on wheels, who remembers these, Buzzer
Miller dynamo, had them on 2 bikes I had, didnāt do the tyres any favours. First bike was a Rudge Whitworth with Miller dynamo lighting and 3 speed Sturmey Archer gears, second bike a Humber Clipper, Miller dynamo lighting and 4 speed Sturmey Archer gears.
Oily
Donāt need anything else to slow me down Buzzer, but donāt they have those anymore? I remember them well if you stopped, coming home on a dark night, it all went black. And since Kev has mentioned the NE, that is exactly what happened to me with my Kew Dodge + 4 in line at Ranks at Gateshead. As I turned up the slope to leave the corner of the trailer squashed the battery that was mounted behind the cab. As long as I didnāt stall the motor it was ok, but it was dark long before I got back home to Nottingham and each time I stopped at lights or for some other reason, all the lights went out.
Buzzer:
Found this fascinating a German invention from the 1930s a motorcycle with engine within the front wheel, it took 3 years to develop this model but obviously it never took off, Buzzer
This reminds me of the CYCLE MASTER ,a 2 stroke engine fitted into the rear wheel just after WW 2 . toshboy
This reminds me of the CYCLE MASTER ,a 2 stroke engine fitted into the rear wheel just after WW 2 . toshboy
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Father had one new in 1953 or 4 to get to work in London. Bought it āon the bookā from our local bike shop, they used to give you a card, you went in the shop every week and paid your five bob or whatever 'til it was paid for. He fitted it into his existing bike frame but it soon fell to bits with the speed and vibration, so did a couple more ordinary bike frames, so back to the shop and invested in a Cyclemaster frame, they were heavy duty with cantilever forks, no more trouble. He had a child saddle on the crossbar, I used to ride on it. Even when he had a car he always had a moped for work, later on he had a Norman Nippy (thereās a blast from the past) and then a succession of Honda P and PC50s. When I was old enough to have a car I used to borrow them to save trying to find a parking space when I went shopping.
Bernard
Buzzer:
Found this fascinating a German invention from the 1930s a motorcycle with engine within the front wheel, it took 3 years to develop this model but obviously it never took off, Buzzer
This reminds me of the CYCLE MASTER ,a 2 stroke engine fitted into the rear wheel just after WW 2 . toshboy
They were very common in France so I believe and still available to this day I think, though I donāt remember having seen one.
Itās all about electric these days though. Before I read up on the one I bought I thought the electric ones could be charged as you go along by pedalling without the motor. Not so as I have to plug it into the mains every few days or so, depending on the distance covered of course.
albion1938:
This reminds me of the CYCLE MASTER ,a 2 stroke engine fitted into the rear wheel just after WW 2 . toshboy
Father had one new in 1953 or 4 to get to work in London. Bought it āon the bookā from our local bike shop, they used to give you a card, you went in the shop every week and paid your five bob or whatever 'til it was paid for. He fitted it into his existing bike frame but it soon fell to bits with the speed and vibration, so did a couple more ordinary bike frames, so back to the shop and invested in a Cyclemaster frame, they were heavy duty with cantilever forks, no more trouble. He had a child saddle on the crossbar, I used to ride on it. Even when he had a car he always had a moped for work, later on he had a Norman Nippy (thereās a blast from the past) and then a succession of Honda P and PC50s. When I was old enough to have a car I used to borrow them to save trying to find a parking space when I went shopping.
Bernard
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There you go Albion a Norman Nippy moped, I had a Norman motorcycle with a Villiers 250 twin engine ih my yoof, Buzzer
When I was a kid my next door neighbour had a Raleigh moped. It looked quite smart in a cream paint and dark green coachlines. I cannot recall what model name it had though.
Dipster:
When I was a kid my next door neighbour had a Raleigh moped. It looked quite smart in a cream paint and dark green coachlines. I cannot recall what model name it had though.
Buzzer:
Found this fascinating a German invention from the 1930s a motorcycle with engine within the front wheel, it took 3 years to develop this model but obviously it never took off, Buzzer
This reminds me of the CYCLE MASTER ,a 2 stroke engine fitted into the rear wheel just after WW 2 . toshboy
They were very common in France so I believe and still available to this day I think, though I donāt remember having seen one.
Itās all about electric these days though. Before I read up on the one I bought I thought the electric ones could be charged as you go along by pedalling without the motor. Not so as I have to plug it into the mains every few days or so, depending on the distance covered of course.
Donāt you mean the Solex David? Little two stroke engine fitted on the front wheel, you could āengageā the engine by pulling a handle and lower it down onto the spinning wheel. When I was a nipper, Iāve rebuilt the engine on a Solex my grandad owned years ago, was a fun little project to get my hands on, it was eventually sold to a neighbouring Englishman I believeā¦ wouldnāt be you, would it?
Another one from the past the NSU Quickly well it was faster than a bike but only just, the lady that came every day to pick up and pack our battery hens eggs had one she rode it to work about 3miles cheap and economical and she did it with a roll up in her gob, Buzzer
Buzzer:
Another one from the past the NSU Quickly well it was faster than a bike but only just, the lady that came every day to pick up and pack our battery hens eggs had one she rode it to work about 3miles cheap and economical and she did it with a roll up in her gob, Buzzer
Did he ever let you have a go? I had a Mobylette after taking over the payments from my father. It went for so long between putting in a gallon of juice and a bit of oil that I nearly always ran out of juice. Boy was it hard to pedal.
had to do a google on that one and a few on Youtube, Jay Leno has one in his collection of automobiles.
