Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

Leyland600:
Hi Froggy, Maudslay at least tried to sell chassis into Europe. Here are some photos I was given by the Maudslay Company back in 1954-5 when as a teenage lorry & bus enthusiast I wrote and asked for information about their products. According to pencil statements written on the back of the two show stands one was the Geneva motor show and the other the Barcelona motor show in the early 1950s.
Cheers, Leyland 600.

At that time, 1954-5, Maudslay was part of the ACV group (AEC, Maudslay, Crossley, Park Royal Coachbuilders etc.) and during the post-war years of steel rationing each individual marque within a vehicle grouping was allocated steel if it was active in export markets. Maudslay was never a large exporter compared with its parent AEC, so by badging what was basically an AEC Regal Mk.III as a Maudslay Marathon, in this instance, more steel could be claimed by ACV. 1954 was I think towards the end of rationing.

from the classic coast and castle run earlier this year wonder how many have crossed this bridge then headed up the peth

Spardo:

oiltreader:
Thanks to Buzzer, Spardo, stevejones and remy for the pics :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: also VALKYRIE for the detail :smiley:
Oily

Timber

Nice pictures Oily, but just a thought, are timber hauliers exempted from side guards? Perhaps something to do with getting them ripped off on rough forest tracks? Must admit I haven’t noticed here, must keep my eyes open for them next time I’m out.

Hi Spardo, tried to get some info, only one reply, to quote …" Prior to 2014 timber trailers didn’t need mudguards either, most older trailers now have them fitted"

Couple of examples.
Oily

Froggy55:
Most interesting indeed! The truck I posted is obviously brand new, and the picture may have been taken on the premises of its coachbuilder, perhaps on the continent, though I doubt chinese sixes were ever popular in French-speaking countries; maybe Belgium. The only French-registered one I ever saw was the famous Volvo F 12 specially made for Transports STG; strangely with no sleeper.
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A forward thinking bloke, the boss of STG, saw this on the net a few months ago and I think he makes a good point. However he didn’t reply to my comment about looking foward to watching young Benoit reversing his dream. :wink: :slight_smile:

youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_0lueEufI

@Oily Thanks for that, seems like it may be (have been) the case, and maybe the flying mud as well as the flying bits of bark are the reasons why they have to have flashing beacons in France, like exceptionnels.

Thanks to Froggy55, Buzzer, Leyland 600 and bumper for the pics :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: .
Oily

Maudslay Meritor.

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Couple of shots for today NMY, Buzzer.

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Good old day’s

Hi Bumper, I have been up and down the Lion Bank a few times with my wagon in the past with feeding stuffs and bulk grain. Do you know which Durham University students painted the lions backside red as a Rag Week stunt back about 1962 causing local public outrage ?
Cheers Leyland 600.

Buzzer:
Couple of shots for today NMY, Buzzer.

Never seen a Pickfords Trader would like to see more pics. I’ve often said pick Fords .Sorry not my only comment but perhaps my worst

Tony

Buzzer:
Couple of shots for today NMY, Buzzer.

Hi Buzzer, is the cattle waggon Johnson of Ancroft? Tried expanding the photo but can’t make the name out. Thanks Tyneside.

Hi Tyneside, yes it is Johnstone from Ancroft.
Cheers, Leyland 600.

Spardo:
A forward thinking bloke, the boss of STG, saw this on the net a few months ago and I think he makes a good point. However he didn’t reply to my comment about looking foward to watching young Benoit reversing his dream. :wink: :slight_smile:

youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_0lueEufI

At a stage, I hoped to see the young chap reversing the 8-axle outfit round the roundabout.

Another interesting video on the subject here:
youtube.com/watch?v=75jT3TPY58A

tyneside:

Buzzer:
Couple of shots for today NMY, Buzzer.

Hi Buzzer, is the cattle waggon Johnson of Ancroft? Tried expanding the photo but can’t make the name out. Thanks Tyneside.

Tyneside here are some more Johnson of Ancroft shots NMP ex FB, cheers Buzzer.

Froggy55:
At a stage, I hoped to see the young chap reversing the 8-axle outfit round the roundabout.

Another interesting video on the subject here:
youtube.com/watch?v=75jT3TPY58A

Yes, I have seen that one too, but, though I realise that the Dutch outfit is for light goods not sure I would trust to not hitting a bump in the road on a corner and clashing the bodies. :open_mouth:

Yes too, as I said in the comments (which he didn’t reply to), I would have liked to have seen the lad reversing it but I have no doubt that he would be competant. The longer the trailer the easier it is to control, given the appropriate space of course.

Also, very impressive are the stopping distances. Not surprised though, the more tyres you have on the road the more grip you have to combat inertia.

All in all a good sytem I reckon, perhaps (as in Oz) on designated routes, but I would be extra careful pulling such a large trailer fully laden with a light prime mover. Tail wagging dog etc. :wink: :slight_smile: We combatted that at Toray by, if necessary, swapping bodies. Quite deliberately I had designed both wagon and trailer demounts to be identical.

Spardo:

Froggy55:
At a stage, I hoped to see the young chap reversing the 8-axle outfit round the roundabout.

Another interesting video on the subject here:
youtube.com/watch?v=75jT3TPY58A

Yes, I have seen that one too, but, though I realise that the Dutch outfit is for light goods not sure I would trust to not hitting a bump in the road on a corner and clashing the bodies. :open_mouth:

Yes too, as I said in the comments (which he didn’t reply to), I would have liked to have seen the lad reversing it but I have no doubt that he would be competant. The longer the trailer the easier it is to control, given the appropriate space of course.

Also, very impressive are the stopping distances. Not surprised though, the more tyres you have on the road the more grip you have to combat inertia.

All in all a good sytem I reckon, perhaps (as in Oz) on designated routes, but I would be extra careful pulling such a large trailer fully laden with a light prime mover. Tail wagging dog etc. :wink: :slight_smile: We combatted that at Toray by, if necessary, swapping bodies. Quite deliberately I had designed both wagon and trailer demounts to be identical.

My experience of truck + trailer outfits tells me that a 26 tonnes dragger + a 14/18 tonnes trailer is much more comfortable than the other way round; far less bumps when acceleratig or braking, or going rund corners.

Buzzer.

Thanks for posting the other Johnson pics.

Tyneside

Thanks to Buzzer and Cliff Luxton for the pics, also Froggy55 for the vid links :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Dingwall today, a neighbour of mine pilots this wagon.
Oily

oiltreader:
Thanks to Buzzer and Cliff Luxton for the pics, also Froggy55 for the vid links :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Dingwall today, a neighbour of mine pilots this wagon.
Oily

Nice looking wagon

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Johnny

Spardo:

Froggy55:
At a stage, I hoped to see the young chap reversing the 8-axle outfit round the roundabout.

Another interesting video on the subject here:
youtube.com/watch?v=75jT3TPY58A

Yes, I have seen that one too, but, though I realise that the Dutch outfit is for light goods not sure I would trust to not hitting a bump in the road on a corner and clashing the bodies. :open_mouth:

Yes too, as I said in the comments (which he didn’t reply to), I would have liked to have seen the lad reversing it but I have no doubt that he would be competant. The longer the trailer the easier it is to control, given the appropriate space of course.

Also, very impressive are the stopping distances. Not surprised though, the more tyres you have on the road the more grip you have to combat inertia.

All in all a good sytem I reckon, perhaps (as in Oz) on designated routes, but I would be extra careful pulling such a large trailer fully laden with a light prime mover. Tail wagging dog etc. :wink: :slight_smile: We combatted that at Toray by, if necessary, swapping bodies. Quite deliberately I had designed both wagon and trailer demounts to be identical.

We ran occasional double bottoms in Saudi - my truck was a Saviem with about 240 hp, so you needed a couple of light containers to make any progress - you were about overloaded empty! And only in winter - in summer you couldn’t manage top gear with one trailer without the temperature gauge spinning into the red!

Oh, and try as I might I couldn’t reverse it in a straight line, but there were others who could. Ginger McNeil took a 60 foot crane beam on the back trailer of a double from Dammam to Riyadh and backed in a oner into a dark basement beneath a tower block!

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But! If you did have 2 trailers on the acceleration may have been 0 to 60 in 30 minutes, but the braking with 7 axles was stunning!

A second or two delay, followed by almost going through the windscreen!

Happy Days,
John.

John West:
Oh, and try as I might I couldn’t reverse it in a straight line, but there were others who could. Ginger McNeil took a 60 foot crane beam on the back trailer of a double from Dammam to Riyadh and backed in a oner into a dark basement beneath a tower block!

Backing into a dark place from sunlight is the worst in any situation. At Toray we had to back A-frame drawbars blindside into a warehouse at Hyde which was facing west. An early morning delivery saw the sun coming up over the building straight into the mirrors. It was bad enough when we got the Volvos, but with the Fodens which proceeded them it was a nightmare. They had fixed quarterlights, the only way to see through the mirrors, and all you could see was a reflection of the dashboard. I tried placing a black cloth over the whole area under the screen, it helped a bit, but not much.