oiltreader:
Kaelble on show.
oily
edit in another two
In the last pic,the one on the right looks like a bonneted Tm.
Lawrence Dunbar:
old Spanish Dodge.0[/quot
Never had the opportunity to drive one of those.
What were they like? remember drivers saying they went like “pooh off a shovel” and others saying they were crap.
Must have been like Marmite . . bit like Ivecos
Oily…Johnny Pratt is driving a taxi in Rugby.
Suedehead, I drove a Berrerios Dodge brand new straight out the box, one of 2 BRS truck rental had, I had it the first week it was on the road while my Borderer was in for MOT, pulled like a train, and a nice throaty sound, my Brother had one a few years later, and to this day it’s the only lorry i’ve done Coventry to Southampton in 2 hours with 20 ton of coke cola, and that was before the M40,and Newbury bypass.
Evening all, suedehead, as dieseldog66 have said, “they could really go”! I remember the “colourful” Hereford haulier Eddie Gammond, having an early example, which was involved in an accident which necesetated a cab replacement. Iwould suspect that “economic” reasons were the instigator in the replacement cab being a Leyland Ergomatic, which to fit over the high “Scania” based Barreros diesel sat rather high from the ground!! Now this vehicle, looking in ones mirror like a leyland , would gain ground, and hurtle past one like no Leyland ever could!! It was the quickest “thing” out of South Wales on the M50 for quite some time!
I think that it was Pats 77 Eurotest, for Truck magazine, and I had been involved with our TR305, Barreros were also there, and the Spaniards were quite “sore”, having had years of chaotic management under Chrysler, and now with Peugeot Citroens truck interests, Dodge, Commer, Barreros, “handed” to Renault Vehicules Industriels, they had a point to make!
The point being that they were good engineers, and could produce a very usefull machine. The cosmetics of the example submited were poor, the paint job looked like emulsion paint, (and they had missed some bits)! But the lorry, boy, it surprised all of us, it went, handled, and drove like a thoroughbred, and was not bad on fuel.
I think the Dodge Network in the UK moved quite a few, both tractors and rigid 6 & 8wheelers, Coventry & Jeffs in Bristol, Days in Chelmsford, and the Dealer in Hereford, I believe sold most. But with the takeover of Dodge in the UK by RVI , I believe the remaining stock was “blown out”, at very low price indeed, following a series of advertisments along the lines of, "A 38tonner for £…, (with no mention of the actual manufacturer whatsoever!
The 300P soldiered on in Spain and Portugal for a short time, eventually being re-cabbed with the KB42 Berliet designed cab, (an old colleague of mine from Venissieux leading the engineering team responsible). This version lasted into the mid 80s, before being superseded by the RVI product. A sad end to potentially a very good lorry, but its build quality, and lack of development and ensuing reliability issues, always limited its long term future… But yes it could really move!!
S Barreros moved to Cuba, and created their indiginous lorry engine building industry, but that really interesting story is for another time. Cheerio for now.
Barreiros in different guises. I also remember seeing them on the road and the exhaust note was something else, a throaty growl more like, and they did go. I have a few more pics of them, mostly un-traceable for ownership.
oily
Some more original Barrieros and are adjudged(by the parent website) to be in the public domain.
oily
Pics courtesy of the Hudsons Coal company thread.
From far away NZ and thanks to Rod Simmonds, I post this with the 
, what’s with the half buried tyre in the foreground, some sort of distance judgement , obviously it can be run over without damage, me i’m thinking its a bit clever whatever it’s for 
. Maybe the yard dog buried it 
oily
Hi MOC, posted this before, but it is relevant to your Hudson pics, it’s from a book given to me in 1948.
oily
dd power from finland
oiltreader:
Hi MOC, posted this before, but it is relevant to your Hudson pics, it’s from a book given to me in 1948.
oily
Oh yea,I must have missed your posting that one Oily,theres a good bit of history to Hudsons and its connected to Samuel Williams which i will be doing tomorrow. 
Strange about the Tyre in the ground though 
bma.finland:
dd power from finland
“Carryfast” will have a queer turn and start frothing at the mouth when he lokks at the post bma. Hej Benkku,Dennis.
i know, but the only time being used that"thing" was when i,ll buy a sheep barrel of oil and blow up my 142 (and afew month,s later the141, only for a few “pounds sake”)never broken engines since that episod,that was the first and last time i.ll was stocked behind a bedford ,cheers benkku, and dennis think carryfast are going "soft lately,there seems to be life otside the twostoke to,like in 2800 
bma.finland:
i know, but the only time being used that"thing" was when i,ll buy a sheep barrel of oil and blow up my 142 (and afew month,s later the141, only for a few “pounds sake”)never broken engines since that episod,that was the first and last time i.ll was stocked behind a bedford
I think his medication is starting to take effect bma.! Or maybe he has,at last,realised that promoting the DD on this site is rather like trying to “■■■■ into a head on 100kph wind” Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
bma.finland:
i know, but the only time being used that"thing" was when i,ll buy a sheep barrel of oil and blow up my 142 (and afew month,s later the141, only for a few “pounds sake”)never broken engines since that episod,that was the first and last time i.ll was stocked behind a bedfordI think his medication is starting to take effect bma.! Or maybe he has,at last,realised that promoting the DD on this site is rather like trying to “■■■■ into a head on 100kph wind” Cheers Dennis.
well it hurt,s to run into a brickwall to even in slow speed cheers benkku
Saviem:
Evening all, suedehead, as dieseldog66 have said, “they could really go”! I remember the “colourful” Hereford haulier Eddie Gammond, having an early example, which was involved in an accident which necesetated a cab replacement. Iwould suspect that “economic” reasons were the instigator in the replacement cab being a Leyland Ergomatic, which to fit over the high “Scania” based Barreros diesel sat rather high from the ground!! Now this vehicle, looking in ones mirror like a leyland , would gain ground, and hurtle past one like no Leyland ever could!! It was the quickest “thing” out of South Wales on the M50 for quite some time!I think that it was Pats 77 Eurotest, for Truck magazine, and I had been involved with our TR305, Barreros were also there, and the Spaniards were quite “sore”, having had years of chaotic management under Chrysler, and now with Peugeot Citroens truck interests, Dodge, Commer, Barreros, “handed” to Renault Vehicules Industriels, they had a point to make!
The point being that they were good engineers, and could produce a very usefull machine. The cosmetics of the example submited were poor, the paint job looked like emulsion paint, (and they had missed some bits)! But the lorry, boy, it surprised all of us, it went, handled, and drove like a thoroughbred, and was not bad on fuel.
I think the Dodge Network in the UK moved quite a few, both tractors and rigid 6 & 8wheelers, Coventry & Jeffs in Bristol, Days in Chelmsford, and the Dealer in Hereford, I believe sold most. But with the takeover of Dodge in the UK by RVI , I believe the remaining stock was “blown out”, at very low price indeed, following a series of advertisments along the lines of, "A 38tonner for £…, (with no mention of the actual manufacturer whatsoever!
The 300P soldiered on in Spain and Portugal for a short time, eventually being re-cabbed with the KB42 Berliet designed cab, (an old colleague of mine from Venissieux leading the engineering team responsible). This version lasted into the mid 80s, before being superseded by the RVI product. A sad end to potentially a very good lorry, but its build quality, and lack of development and ensuing reliability issues, always limited its long term future… But yes it could really move!!
S Barreros moved to Cuba, and created their indiginous lorry engine building industry, but that really interesting story is for another time. Cheerio for now.
Thanks for the replies Dieseldog + Saviem. Seems they were good motors.
oiltreader:
A couple of ads. useless i suppose unless you understand the lingo.
oily
Re the rigid . .My Spanish isnt all that 
but i think a rough translation would be
“A new 20tonner, that goes like the wind” ?(scuse the French, gratsi)