oiltreader:
More from the same source. Top. The Diamond T is Kurt Johannsen who was a road train pioneer and is loaded with railway wagons on route between Katherine and Alice Springs, stopped at a place called Tea Tree, date 1947. Middle. Leyland NT 1946, I would guess the other truck is an International put me right Spardo (and what is Bill Ellis driving).
Bottom. Driver Bill Ellis setting out from Darwin on the 1000 mile trek to Alice Springs.
oily
I think you’ll find that Johanssen’s train is parked at Ti Tree, a couple of hundred kms north of The Alice.
Hard to see but I reckon you’re right about the Inter, but what about Bill Ellis? By the state of him I reckon he’s spent all night under the truck
As to what motor it is, a bit puzzling. It has the look of a later model than would have been found in 1950, it even has an ashtray and there seems to be some roof lining. No clues apart from all the switches and knobs which definitely have a Yankee look about them.
A twin stick I see. Not sure what there was at that time apart from the Foden, but it certainly doesn’t look like one of those.
I wonder if someone has got the date wrong?
By the look in the centre of the steering wheel, it’s a Mack, you can just make out the bulldog, I then googled some DM 600 interiors and while I think the DM 600 is to late, the dials and cowl around them are the same as is the windscreen and quarter lite.
oiltreader:
More from the same source. Top. The Diamond T is Kurt Johannsen who was a road train pioneer and is loaded with railway wagons on route between Katherine and Alice Springs, stopped at a place called Tea Tree, date 1947. Middle. Leyland NT 1946, I would guess the other truck is an International put me right Spardo (and what is Bill Ellis driving).
Bottom. Driver Bill Ellis setting out from Darwin on the 1000 mile trek to Alice Springs.
oily
I think you’ll find that Johanssen’s train is parked at Ti Tree, a couple of hundred kms north of The Alice.
Hard to see but I reckon you’re right about the Inter, but what about Bill Ellis? By the state of him I reckon he’s spent all night under the truck
As to what motor it is, a bit puzzling. It has the look of a later model than would have been found in 1950, it even has an ashtray and there seems to be some roof lining. No clues apart from all the switches and knobs which definitely have a Yankee look about them.
A twin stick I see. Not sure what there was at that time apart from the Foden, but it certainly doesn’t look like one of those.
I wonder if someone has got the date wrong?
By the look in the centre of the steering wheel, it’s a Mack, you can just make out the bulldog, I then googled some DM 600 interiors and while I think the DM 600 is to late, the dials and cowl around them are the same as is the windscreen and quarter lite.
Could be getting somewhere now this is a 1950s Mack(US spec) courtesy of hankstruckpictures and the near vertical A pillar is similar.
oily
Dieseldogsix:
By the look in the centre of the steering wheel, it’s a Mack, you can just make out the bulldog, I then googled some DM 600 interiors and while I think the DM 600 is to late, the dials and cowl around them are the same as is the windscreen and quarter lite.
Perhaps I’m right about the date being wrong then? It certainly doesn’t have the look of a 50s motor to me.
Pity we don’t have a shot of the interior of that Mack Oily.
Dieseldogsix:
By the look in the centre of the steering wheel, it’s a Mack, you can just make out the bulldog, I then googled some DM 600 interiors and while I think the DM 600 is to late, the dials and cowl around them are the same as is the windscreen and quarter lite.
Perhaps I’m right about the date being wrong then? It certainly doesn’t have the look of a 50s motor to me.
Pity we don’t have a shot of the interior of that Mack Oily.
Another clue (production run 1940/1956) again courtesy of hanktruckpictures, still looking for cab interiors.
oily
Ref the Bill Ellis pic
Think your all presuming its a conventional but its more likely a CoE F Series Mack and early/mid Sixties, 50’s seems too early for the cab layout, high cab hence no engine cover and very straight A posts the normal control still had some slope to them even if slight, if it is a Mack then the two sticks is a poser but could have been spec’d for the job it was doing. Franky.
Frankydobo:
Ref the Bill Ellis pic
Think your all presuming its a conventional but its more likely a CoE F Series Mack and early/mid Sixties, 50’s seems too early for the cab layout, high cab hence no engine cover and very straight A posts the normal control still had some slope to them even if slight, if it is a Mack then the two sticks is a poser but could have been spec’d for the job it was doing. Franky.
Hi Franky, this is a cabover Mack of the same period, albeit US spec , interestingly the instrument binnacle is almost identical to the Bill Ellis motor. I also dug out the original library detail of the Ellis pic and it gives a vague taken date of 1946 to 1971 so it’s more likely later than the date suggested on the pic I originally posted.
oily
Frankydobo:
Ref the Bill Ellis pic
Think your all presuming its a conventional but its more likely a CoE F Series Mack and early/mid Sixties, 50’s seems too early for the cab layout, high cab hence no engine cover and very straight A posts the normal control still had some slope to them even if slight, if it is a Mack then the two sticks is a poser but could have been spec’d for the job it was doing. Franky.
Hi Franky, this is a cabover Mack of the same period, albeit US spec and single stick, interestingly the instrument binnacle is almost identical to the Bill Ellis motor. I also dug out the original library detail of the Ellis pic and it gives a vague taken date of 1946 to 1971 so it’s more likely later than the date suggested on the pic I originally posted.
oily
Well, based on that evidence, well investigated Oily, I reckon that:
Bill Ellis is driving a later model than 1950
He is driving a conventional not a cabover
And it is a Mack.
However, surely the one you picture is a twin stick, can you not see them both?
this was parked in a service area in italy last year there was 2 the other was a plain scania.does anyone know what it is?has a touch of volvo about it maybe?i did try to talk to driver but his english & my iranian just didn’t work although he was happy for me to take pics so enjoy regards Andrew
Frankydobo:
Ref the Bill Ellis pic
Think your all presuming its a conventional but its more likely a CoE F Series Mack and early/mid Sixties, 50’s seems too early for the cab layout, high cab hence no engine cover and very straight A posts the normal control still had some slope to them even if slight, if it is a Mack then the two sticks is a poser but could have been spec’d for the job it was doing. Franky.
Hi Franky, this is a cabover Mack of the same period, albeit US spec and single stick, interestingly the instrument binnacle is almost identical to the Bill Ellis motor. I also dug out the original library detail of the Ellis pic and it gives a vague taken date of 1946 to 1971 so it’s more likely later than the date suggested on the pic I originally posted.
oily
Well, based on that evidence, well investigated Oily, I reckon that:
Bill Ellis is driving a later model than 1950
He is driving a conventional not a cabover
And it is a Mack.
However, surely the one you picture is a twin stick, can you not see them both?
Yeah Spardo, along with the senility I am getting blind as well, single stick, double stick, for me its gotta be a white stick.
oily
