Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

First job I ever had on leaving school was bagging coal out of railway wagons , just like those lads in Tyneside’s photo .

A fiver a week , and that had to be handed over to mi mam .

Guess I’ve come a long way over the past 60 years I reckon . At least I can keep my pension to spend on whatever it is that I want to .

Problem being , I don’t want buggerall ,….Life gets tedious…don’ it ?

What a man Ian Lawson from Southampton an owner driver, he bought this F12 new in 1979 and is still driving it today at 80+ years old and last time I spoke to him he does not wear glasses either, during its life the F12 has been re cabbed due to a crane falling on it so has the next generation cab fitted now. Most maintenance in its life was done by Ian with little outside help, Before this F12 he ran an F88 and I can still remember him in that vehicle as well, if ever there was a “past and present and in between” scenario it surely is this man & his truck well done Ian Lawson, Buzzer

Buzzer:
What a man Ian Lawson from Southampton an owner driver, he bought this F12 new in 1979 and is still driving it today at 80+ years old and last time I spoke to him he does not wear glasses either, during its life the F12 has been re cabbed due to a crane falling on it so has the next generation cab fitted now. Most maintenance in its life was done by Ian with little outside help, Before this F12 he ran an F88 and I can still remember him in that vehicle as well, if ever there was a “past and present and in between” scenario it surely is this man & his truck well done Ian Lawson, Buzzer

Quite the achievement Buzzer! Cheers for bringing this to our attention.

tyneside:
Some odds and sods
Tyneside

Bagging coal out of a rail wagon :open_mouth: that’s hard graft (and look at the size of that b loody shovel) :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

Eddie Heaton:
First job I ever had on leaving school was bagging coal out of railway wagons , just like those lads in Tyneside’s photo .

A fiver a week , and that had to be handed over to mi mam .

Guess I’ve come a long way over the past 60 years I reckon . At least I can keep my pension to spend on whatever it is that I want to .

Problem being , I don’t want buggerall ,….Life gets tedious…don’ it ?

Jeeze, hats off to you for that, definitely a job I wouldn’t be able to do.

A couple of artics on the A577, passing through Pemberton this morning,
a dull, dark, and wet day.

Ray.

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Talk about a past picture, this is me about a hundred years ago in front of my beloved Atky with its whopping Gardner 150.

Line up of redundant straddle loaders , parked up awaiting disposal at the former Manchester Liners site on Salford docks in 1987 .

Eddie Heaton:
Line up of redundant straddle loaders , parked up awaiting disposal at the former Manchester Liners site on Salford docks in 1987 .

That long ago Eddie? :open_mouth: Are Manchester Liners, and Salford Docks, no more then? Carried a lot of them on Midland Storage back in the mists of time. :slight_smile:

Spardo:

Eddie Heaton:
Line up of redundant straddle loaders , parked up awaiting disposal at the former Manchester Liners site on Salford docks in 1987 .

That long ago Eddie? :open_mouth: Are Manchester Liners, and Salford Docks, no more then? Carried a lot of them on Midland Storage back in the mists of time. :slight_smile:

Time flies doesn’t it David ? And the older one gets , the quicker it seems to pass , or at least that’s the way it appears to me .

Salford docks are long gone . It’s all yuppie apartments nowadays . The BBC also moved part of their operations up to there several years ago . Various other new buildings on the former dock site include the Lowry Centre , and the northern version of the Imperial War Museum .

It’s been a while now since I visited the place , although I only live a mere 20 miles or so to the west .

The annual Manchester to Blackpool charity cycle ride also starts at the IWM . Proceeds going to the Christie cancer hospital …just an additional useless bit of info . I’ve completed the ride myself on several occasions , before age , ache and penury took their toll that is .

Getting back to Manchester Liners however , as a kid , I used to spend hours on the locks at Latchford near Warrington , waiting for their vessels to come through . Occasionally , one of the crew members would come out onto the deck with a cardboard box and chuck handfuls of used foreign matchboxes on to the quayside to watch us kids scrabbling for them .

robthedog:
One of Dennis’s

That motor was run as a rigid on a contract we had acquired when I bought K Fell & Co in 1976 it did two round trips a week to the midlands with either paper or Libbys then it’s job was to pick up all kinds of shoe components and leather around Northampton and Leicester for K Shoes in Kendal. There was a 6 wheeler ERF on the job when we first took over but as the job got busier I bought that new Sed Atk and used a 37ft CF which was one of Fells trailers that was in the deal and it was ideal for the job ! The job fizzled out in about 1983 when K Shoes were bought out by Clarks of Street and all manufacturing finally stopped at the K factories in Kendal and their other factories in ■■■■■■■■ K’s had a workforce of about 2000 in Kendal so nearly every family in the town had relatives that worked at K’s .My wife’s Father and two Brothers all worked at K’s and she started work in the accounts dept when she left school ! Her mothers brother was a foreman in the factory and used to give me pairs of what was called “wear test” shoes size 9 7 fitting they wear great and as well as gratsis ! cheers Bewick.

Thanks to Buzzer, Ray Smyth, Remy and Eddie heaton for the photos :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: the craic as always is going well :smiley:
Oily
Couple snapped recently Inverness William Duff and Sons in August and Pat Munro in November.

Eddie Heaton:

Spardo:

Eddie Heaton:
Line up of redundant straddle loaders , parked up awaiting disposal at the former Manchester Liners site on Salford docks in 1987 .

That long ago Eddie? :open_mouth: Are Manchester Liners, and Salford Docks, no more then? Carried a lot of them on Midland Storage back in the mists of time. :slight_smile:

Time flies doesn’t it David ? And the older one gets , the quicker it seems to pass , or at least that’s the way it appears to me .

Salford docks are long gone . It’s all yuppie apartments nowadays . The BBC also moved part of their operations up to there several years ago . Various other new buildings on the former dock site include the Lowry Centre , and the northern version of the Imperial War Museum .

It’s been a while now since I visited the place , although I only live a mere 20 miles or so to the west .

The annual Manchester to Blackpool charity cycle ride also starts at the IWM . Proceeds going to the Christie cancer hospital …just an additional useless bit of info . I’ve completed the ride myself on several occasions , before age , ache and penury took their toll that is .

Getting back to Manchester Liners however , as a kid , I used to spend hours on the locks at Latchford near Warrington , waiting for their vessels to come through . Occasionally , one of the crew members would come out onto the deck with a cardboard box and chuck handfuls of used foreign matchboxes on to the quayside to watch us kids scrabbling for them .

I used to go to the site the Imperial War Museum now stands on with my dad in the 1970’s for loads of bagged cattle feed, back then it was BOCM (British oil & cake mills) just across the road was RHM (Rank Hovis Mcdougall) where we would fetch bran from, their mill is still there on Elevator Road, it was a pig of a job if the merchant ordered a split load as you had to leave room at BOCM to load at RHM & the bags were different sizes.

I called round there years later with my dad in my lorry & asked him if he recognised where he was, he didn’t know until we walked to the end of the road & he saw the street sign for Elevator Road, he couldn’t believe the changes that had taken place.

We always used to be up there ready for loading by 6am & if anyone was in the queue in front of my dad for loading he used to go a quarter of an hour earlier next time, he didn’t like being held up in his day’s work.

Buzzer:
A few for the boy’s down under, Buzzer

I can see one of Bewicks well sheeted vehicles has got in to the pictures :smiley:

Whilst still on the topic of Salford docks and Manchester Liners , I recall an incident in 1969 when one of their vessels , Manchester Courage I believe it was , outward bound for Montreal , rammed the lock gates at Barton and brought waterborne traffic to a standstill on the MSC for the better part of two months .

The total cost of the blockage in today’s money is reckoned to be in the tens of millions , although it’s difficult to estimate the precise figure .
I recall seeing the vessel jammed in the locks and resting on the cill as I drove over the Barton high level bridge a couple of days following the incident .

And finally , and I offer my most sincere apologies to anyone who may suppose that my intentions are to hijack this thread , but since the topic of Salford docks has surfaced , then it would seem a pity not to include this last shot taken on the derelict docks .

Taken on the same day as my previous photo , but from a different angle obviously , and seen prior to now solely by myself , this image of the container terminal shows what may possibly be the last two cranes remaining on the dock .

Although they’ll be long gone by now I should imagine .

The photograph includes my mate and his two young children . Those kids understandably have kids of their own now .
I could have cropped the photo to exclude them I suppose , but then that would have compromised the historical content . And anyway , if by remote chance he ever gets to see this shot , no doubt he’ll be pleased to know that his image , and those of his kids will survive for as long as this forum survives .

Lomas Distribution in Ashbourne northbound.I don’t know how many wagons he’s got but I never fail to see them whenever in town.Having a pint in a local pub bottom of Buxton Road I saw six of their wagons passing in space of around ten minutes,four powder tankers and two tautliners.Pete (Windrush) will know em for certain,plus I saw two of Hazelcroft Garages’ vehicles in same ten minutes,a company bought out by Lomas Distribution.
Can somebody put my splendid :laughing: photo right way up please. :grimacing:

Let’s see if this works .

Not quite .

Hi Eddie, I think that I might have another photo of those two cranes, but I can’t find it at the moment. I remember that my brother also took his photos sometime in the late eighties.