Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

Buzzer

Buzzer:
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Buzzer, that wash down facility only washes the wheels and underside, to prevent spreading weeds. They’re quite common.
I imagine you’d wash the inside of the crates as little as you could get away with.
I once had a career chauffeuring pigs. Like sheep, pig crates are three stories high. The crates have to be thoroughly washed out between each load. I’m 6’6", it was a short career, only five days. :laughing:

Star down under.:

Buzzer:
Buzzer

Buzzer, that wash down facility only washes the wheels and underside, to prevent spreading weeds. They’re quite common.
I imagine you’d wash the inside of the crates as little as you could get away with.
I once had a career chauffeuring pigs. Like sheep, pig crates are three stories high. The crates have to be thoroughly washed out between each load. I’m 6’6", it was a short career, only five days. :laughing:

SDU cant imagine doing that on a 3 deck road train, here all the modern decker’s are fully hydraulic so you let down all the decks and wash top first then put it back up and so on but it is time consuming, most markets have good high pressure water guns that would blow you over if you hit the sides inadvertently and it is a requirement to wash out, some farmers take the micky and start washing the tow vehicles as well which is annoying if you are in the wait line, the market takes a small fee for the service. A new box today would be in excess of £200,000, cheers Buzzer

Never saw such a thing, perhaps they weren’t so fussy about spreading weeds (although most of them were buried under bulldust) in the ode days. Never washed inside the crates either. Mind you they could have done with some, as an ignorant rookie on my first trip we all gathered at the river (to make sure we all got through it, no bridge) to make sure all the cows were on their feet. I volunteered to keep my feet on the ground, poking a stick through the slats and wondering why I won the job so easily when everyone else was leaping about inside.

Soon found out when I was covered in brown stuff as the beasts were stamping about in it. Primary wash under the trailer water tank, job completed in the middle of the river. :unamused:

Buzzer:

Star down under.:

Buzzer:
Buzzer

Buzzer, that wash down facility only washes the wheels and underside, to prevent spreading weeds. They’re quite common.
I imagine you’d wash the inside of the crates as little as you could get away with.
I once had a career chauffeuring pigs. Like sheep, pig crates are three stories high. The crates have to be thoroughly washed out between each load. I’m 6’6", it was a short career, only five days. :laughing:

SDU cant imagine doing that on a 3 deck road train, here all the modern decker’s are fully hydraulic so you let down all the decks and wash top first then put it back up and so on but it is time consuming, most markets have good high pressure water guns that would blow you over if you hit the sides inadvertently and it is a requirement to wash out, some farmers take the micky and start washing the tow vehicles as well which is annoying if you are in the wait line, the market takes a small fee for the service. A new box today would be in excess of £200,000, cheers Buzzer

Buzzer, pig farms (as opposed to sheep or cattle stations*) are small and close to the coast, so not in areas permitting road trains, praise the deity of your choice. I only used a single trailer in my short stint on pigs.
I carted live chickens in a B-double. Each and every load was driven through a dettol type spray and hosed with the same, after unloading. This was to prevent spreading any disease, think bird flu etc. between farms.

*sheep and cattle properties (called stations) are generally remote and bigger than your counties.


Often stock crates are convertible from two to three decks, but I’ve never heard of or seen the type in your picture.

SDU here are a couple modern 4 deckers, look the same but different companies, Buzzer

Liegh Delamare, A12 and Eastleigh.

Ade

Buzzer:
SDU here are a couple modern 4 deckers, look the same but different companies, Buzzer

Ingenious Buzzer I assume they are built with Aluminium as the main metal an all steel build would be pretty heavy.

Re the wash down we never had to wash down with meat works cattle in the north if they were going to the south they were dipped twice in Broome this was to eradicate tick which is prolific in the north.
It was thought in days gone by that tick scould be eradicated if the cattle were walked through desert country so a stock route was engineered by a man called Canning he dug 52 wells around 20kms apart between Halls Creek and Wiluna it is called the Canning Stock route, its now a 2000km favourite 4wd track my wife and I have travelled it several times.
I did a dog run once for a Broome based carrier he had 2 triples for the meat works in Bunbury [large coastal town 100kms south of Perth.] At that time triples were not allowed south of Canarvon [900kms north of Perth ] 2 trailer configuration only so I went bobtail to Canavon and hooked onto the 2 trailers unhooked by the triples and we all travelled south to Bunbury. After unloading we were told to wash off I queried the reason and apparently it was because the trucks carrying local cattle had to do it so not to spread any weed etc among local farms in the south I said I.m not going to local farms these trailers are all going straight back to the Kimberly so they compromised and said wash the wheels and chassis which I reckoned was good idea.

Dig

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Nice pictures Dig, but regarding the ticks etc. and washing, did you have no rivers to ford on that route? I know our wheels and chassis would have got well washed through the Victoria River. In my memory the surface came up to the level of the cab floor in the middle, and we stopped there for a quick plunge if time and conditions permitted.

Buzzer:
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Atkinson 8 wheeler

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essexpete:

Buzzer:
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Atkinson 8 wheeler

youtu.be/nuVGc9mJcrM

A62, going up Standedge.
Standedge was one of the main Trans Pennine routes before the M62 was born…and I’ve spent far too many hours up there when snow made it a b loody nightmare. :unamused:

grumpy old man:

essexpete:

Buzzer:
Buzzer

Atkinson 8 wheeler

youtu.be/nuVGc9mJcrM

A62, going up Standedge.
Standedge was one of the main Trans Pennine routes before the M62 was born…and I’ve spent far too many hours up there when snow made it a b loody nightmare. :unamused:

For me it was always Woodhead, being a Nottingham lad ( :unamused: ) but that video was very familiar to me, especially when he reached up to adjust (I thought) the radio when I remembered that I never had one of those but had, on occasions, to ‘help’ the windscreen wiper to work efficiently. :laughing: :laughing:

Buzzer

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2 comments from me.

Firstly to Pete, Windrush, is that ‘R’ ( :laughing: ) in Matlock? Just a wild, half educated, guess you understand. :smiley:

Secondly the last picture. That body truck looks fresh out of the Hall of Fame for the photo and I have always suspected, because I think it was the last of Buntine’s B61 body trucks, it was the one I drove with my friend George, one of my 2 ‘trainers’ when I first started there, the other being Kevin. I say ‘drove’, because George, buoyd up by medicines of various kinds which produced long silences and a fixed expression, much preferred to be behind the wheel himself, leaving me only relatively short spells. Kevin btw was the one who, possibly having a short nap, flipped his 3rd trailer over one early morning which prompted a lengthy recovery by the rest of us. You might think that such ‘teachers’ would been a bad influence on me but, on the contrary, it laid out plain and simple a valuable lesson in what to avoid. :wink: :smiley:

I hope no-one thinks I am doing old friends down with this post, I am not, all the above has been in the public domain for at least 12 years in my book, now long out of print, which in part covered my time there. My admiration for such drivers remains undiminished.

Spardo:
2 comments from me.

Firstly to Pete, Windrush, is that ‘R’ ( :laughing: ) in Matlock? Just a wild, half educated, guess you understand. :smiley:

Secondly the last picture. That body truck looks fresh out of the Hall of Fame for the photo and I have always suspected, because I think it was the last of Buntine’s B61 body trucks, it was the one I drove with my friend George, one of my 2 ‘trainers’ when I first started there, the other being Kevin. I say ‘drove’, because George, buoyd up by medicines of various kinds which produced long silences and a fixed expression, much preferred to be behind the wheel himself, leaving me only relatively short spells. Kevin btw was the one who, possibly having a short nap, flipped his 3rd trailer over one early morning which prompted a lengthy recovery by the rest of us. You might think that such ‘teachers’ would been a bad influence on me but, on the contrary, it laid out plain and simple a valuable lesson in what to avoid. :wink: :smiley:

I hope no-one thinks I am doing old friends down with this post, I am not, all the above has been in the public domain for at least 12 years in my book, now long out of print, which in part covered my time there. My admiration for such drivers remains undiminished.

My guess for the “R” would be Scarborough.

Spardo:

mushroomman:

gazsa401:
Hey mushroom man it was Hempshall cheers Gary

That was the one, thanks for that Gary. :smiley:

Whenever somebody mentions the name Bartons of Nottingham, I can’t help but think of this ‘Classic Trucks’ episode where Bartons were mentioned at 11 minutes into the programe.

youtube.com/watch?v=aqRj1fBAEec

Yes, and mention was made there about the chrome trimmings featured on their bodies. But whether it is the age of the film or not I don’t know, but the Bartons buses of my youth in the 50s and 60s were a much darker shade of red, not at all like that, almost orange, hue.

David.
My Auntie and Uncle had a pub in Diseworth which was near Castle Donington,the Plough Inn,in the 40s and 50s.I used to go there for my holidays from Sheffield.We would catch an OB Bedford bus of Lester Brothers to Castle Donington and then a Barton to Nottingham,Bartons always looked a bit posher than Trent Motor Traction. I also remember the Midland Red express service from Birmingham to Nottingham,route number X99, which flew through Castle Donington. :smiley:
Trent Motor Traction also shared the route number 4 Buxton - Derby via Bakewell and Matlock with the North Western Road Car from Stockport.

Chris Webb:
Bartons always looked a bit posher than Trent Motor Traction. I also remember the Midland Red express service from Birmingham to Nottingham,route number X99,

I agree with you Chris, Bartons always looked a cut above, more flash, all the others including Trent were bland to my young eyes. And I do remember the X99 though it wouldn’t have come past our house. I remember Midland Red being built for speed, possibly because I saw them so often on the motorways later.

Just did a bit of googling and see that Barton Transport was sold in 1989, presumably to Trent, and after that became a property company. A sad end to a famous company.

Dennis Javelin:

Spardo:
2 comments from me.

Firstly to Pete, Windrush, is that ‘R’ ( :laughing: ) in Matlock? Just a wild, half educated, guess you understand. :smiley:

Secondly the last picture. That body truck looks fresh out of the Hall of Fame for the photo and I have always suspected, because I think it was the last of Buntine’s B61 body trucks, it was the one I drove with my friend George, one of my 2 ‘trainers’ when I first started there, the other being Kevin. I say ‘drove’, because George, buoyd up by medicines of various kinds which produced long silences and a fixed expression, much preferred to be behind the wheel himself, leaving me only relatively short spells. Kevin btw was the one who, possibly having a short nap, flipped his 3rd trailer over one early morning which prompted a lengthy recovery by the rest of us. You might think that such ‘teachers’ would been a bad influence on me but, on the contrary, it laid out plain and simple a valuable lesson in what to avoid. :wink: :smiley:

I hope no-one thinks I am doing old friends down with this post, I am not, all the above has been in the public domain for at least 12 years in my book, now long out of print, which in part covered my time there. My admiration for such drivers remains undiminished.

My guess for the “R” would be Scarborough.

Correct after loading lumber in the docks, Buzzer

Buzzer:

Dennis Javelin:

Spardo:
2 comments from me.

Firstly to Pete, Windrush, is that ‘R’ ( :laughing: ) in Matlock? Just a wild, half educated, guess you understand. :smiley:

Secondly the last picture. That body truck looks fresh out of the Hall of Fame for the photo and I have always suspected, because I think it was the last of Buntine’s B61 body trucks, it was the one I drove with my friend George, one of my 2 ‘trainers’ when I first started there, the other being Kevin. I say ‘drove’, because George, buoyd up by medicines of various kinds which produced long silences and a fixed expression, much preferred to be behind the wheel himself, leaving me only relatively short spells. Kevin btw was the one who, possibly having a short nap, flipped his 3rd trailer over one early morning which prompted a lengthy recovery by the rest of us. You might think that such ‘teachers’ would been a bad influence on me but, on the contrary, it laid out plain and simple a valuable lesson in what to avoid. :wink: :smiley:

I hope no-one thinks I am doing old friends down with this post, I am not, all the above has been in the public domain for at least 12 years in my book, now long out of print, which in part covered my time there. My admiration for such drivers remains undiminished.

My guess for the “R” would be Scarborough.

Correct after loading lumber in the docks, Buzzer

The strange thing about this is that I’ve never been to Scarborough :laughing: :laughing: