This Albion Chieftain unit was nicknamed “The Snow Cat” and was mainly operated by a couple of Scottish firms, Caledonian Road Services and sister co. McKinnon’s from Kilmarnock and the unit in the shot bears a Scottish reg. No… Used to see them travelling through Kendal in the early 60’s they had the little Albion 4 cyl engine and IIRC also used the Scammell coupling. Cheers Bewick
Thanks for the info Bewick.
Yes, from me too, it did look familiar and that might have been because I was all over the country in those days, but I have a sneaky feeling that Caledonian had a depot around our way (maybe Long Eaton?) so I might have seen them from there.
Thanks to Buzzer and coomsey for the photos also essexpete for the link and others for all the info ERF and Albion etc
Oily
Advanté Power Stations, not sure how they work, storage batteries or generator?, credit to Richard Says for the photo.
Dennis Javelin:
I take it that there were no low bridges along his delivery route.
Can anyone remember the firm that used to transport new empty steel drums? I seem to recall they were light blue with single axle trailers, something is telling me they were from the north west but probably wrong on that.
Dennis Javelin:
I take it that there were no low bridges along his delivery route.
Can anyone remember the firm that used to transport new empty steel drums? I seem to recall they were light blue with single axle trailers, something is telling me they were from the north west but probably wrong on that.
Dennis Javelin:
I take it that there were no low bridges along his delivery route.
Can anyone remember the firm that used to transport new empty steel drums? I seem to recall they were light blue with single axle trailers, something is telling me they were from the north west but probably wrong on that.
Rheem Blagdon ? Buzzer
That’s not ringing any bells Buzzer, old age is annoying, I can picture them but just can’t remember the name.
Rheem Blagdon had a factory in Bristol and I believe they recon’d 45 gal drums from Marchon Products in Whitehaven and Jim O’Neill used to run up and down between W/Haven and Bristol with a D 800 cage body used ones down recons back ! Rheem Blagdon also supplied new 45 gal drums to Marchon ( Albright & Wilson) and my long gone pal John McGuffie struck up a nightly change over job with a Bristol Haulier who’s name escapes me and the trunk consisted of a load of paper from Milnthorpe down for Fishponds or Mid Summer Norton and a load of drums back up for Whitehaven. IIRC they changed over at Gailey every night.
However this was 72/73 so when I bought McGuffie Transport a firm in Aintree , Brabys , had taken over supplying Marchon at Whitehaven with new 45 gal drums and John McGuffie had got hold of the job and we took it over in 1974 and as well as the regular 2 or 3 loads a day for Whitehaven we also hauled regular loads of drums to Grangemouth, Ardrossan, Teesside, Hull, Shell Haven and Fawley and possibly to Milford Haven but not too sure on that one. But this brings me back to Rheem Blagdon as it is possible Brabys were connected with them and their head office was in Derby but it was a long time ago so I can’t be sure if there was a connection. Cheers Bewick.
Sorry to read that Morris Young, Hillyland, Perth have decided to call it a day, their lorries have been a regular sight up and down the A74 /M74 since the 1960s with their distinctive traditional Scottish style livery.
The Holdens AEC cab could possible have been built by Oswald Tillotsen of Burnley plus they may have supplied the complete lorry being AEC agents plus the Burnley registration.
Road Services Forth also ran a number Albion Sno Cats, the cabs being built by Walter Alexander coachworks at their Dripp Road works in Stirling, Walter Alexander was also a director of the Road Services Group.
Cheers Leyland 600.
Dennis Javelin:
I take it that there were no low bridges along his delivery route.
Can anyone remember the firm that used to transport new empty steel drums? I seem to recall they were light blue with single axle trailers, something is telling me they were from the north west but probably wrong on that.
Rheem Blagdon ? Buzzer
That’s not ringing any bells Buzzer, old age is annoying, I can picture them but just can’t remember the name.
Van Leer is a name that has just jumped out at me, I remember that they had light blue motors and they were from somewhere on Merseyside, possibly Ellesmere Port or Tranmere, somebody must remember them.
There was another place that made 45 gallon drums in Widnes but I can’t think of their name at the moment.
Didn’t Rheem Blagden have navy blue or black motors , this photo has just reminded me of backing in over the railway lines to get onto their loading bays.
We used to load 45 gallon drums at a place in the early seventies called Francis Drums which was somewhere on The South Circular Road, Lewisham I think it was.
I hope this helps.
Photos courtesy of The Manchester Archives. Click on the photos to enlarge them.
TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Past Present And In Between In Pictures . 860-862 . Seddon Eight-Wheeler Lorries,Foden,AEC,Commercial Vehicle Motor Show.
Wednesday,27th April,2022. VALKYRIE
ERF-NGC-European:
Buzzer:
Lovely bright & sunny Monday, Buzzer
Not often you see an LV sleeper cab Buzzer! I wonder who built that AEC cab…
The motor show looks to be late '30s. Do we know the year?
Seddon SD8 or DD8,Pennine Premium Mk1-Cabbed,Flat-Bodied,R8x2 or R8x4,Lorry,8708 KH ? 1958-1960,Hull & Glasgow Road Carriers Ltd,Hull.TN,OTL,PP&IBIP,861,4-2022.MushroomMan.3#
Seddon DD8,Pennine Premium Mk1-Cabbed,Gardner 6LX 150-Engined,R8x4,Lorry,one of two in Rush Green Motors.TN,OTL,PP&IBIP,861,4-2022.Steve Dearman,Facebook.3#
Seddon DD8,Pennine Premium Mk1-Cabbed,Flat-Bodied,R8x4,Lorry.The other DD8 in Rush Green Motors.TN,OTL,PP&IBIP,861,4-2022.Steve Dearman,Facebook.15#
The third surviving Seddon Rigid Eight-Wheeler Lorry,photographed when relatively new.Its in Anglesey,Wales,in a restorable condition? But the owner will not sell it so far,I think
he wants an large amount of money for it…enthusiasts have been trying to buy this Seddon since around 1990 I think.
There are only four Seddon rigid eight-wheeler lorries currently known to exist to date,including the most famous one and the only example to have been restored so far,RVL 723:-
RVL 723,Chassis No.14119, was originally BRS= British Road Services,C3D62,based at Lincoln,under contract to BSC=British Sugar Corporation as a Bulk Sugar Tanker.It was operated as
a Showmans Ballast Diesel Road Locomotive,pulling two,sometimes three,drawbar trailers,by some of my fairground friends,George Rhodes Tuby and his son,Charles,of Doncaster,for
their European Dodgems Ride from 1971 to 1988. By the way,the Lincolnshire town of Spalding was one of the places served when this Seddon worked for BSC,it also returned
to Spalding time and time again as a showmans road locomotive because the Tuby’s have at least two funfairs per-year there: April-May Tulip Festival time and October
For me,this Seddon ought to have been restored as a Showmans Ballast Diesel Road Locomotive! Fairground Vehicles are just as much Commercial Vehicles as any other
type of commercial vehicle Fact.
So here is RVL 723 in all of its glory as a magnificent Showmans Ballast Diesel Road Locomotive in this photograph:-
Seddon DD8 - TP,Premium Mk1-Cabbed,Gardner 6LX 150-Engined,R8x4,Showmans Ballast Diesel Road Locomotive,CN.14119,RVL 723,Lincoln,George Rhodes Tuby & Charles Tuby,Doncaster.3,5-1961.TN,OTL,PP&IBIP,860-862.4-2022.PhilHeath.4# Photographed at Lincoln Funfair,1986.
Another showman friend of mine,the late Terence Dowse,of Doncaster,also had a Seddon rigid eight wheeler lorry,which was the later 1962 to 1964 24-DD8-6LX model with the
Pennine Premium Mk2 Cab,with a Luton Van Body,mid blue livery and registered 4712 PK,Surrey,10-1962,and transported his Octopus Ride from 1972 to 1976.
Unfortunately,I haven’t a photograph of 4712 PK at present,but here is a photograph from part of a Seddon brochure which shows a Seddon 24 R8 Lorry model:-
7.
Seddon 24-8-6LW, 24-8-6LX, 24-DD8-6LX ,Pennine Premium Mk2-Cabbed,R8x2, R8x2, R8x4 Lorry Range.TN,OTL.PP&IBIP,860-862.4-2022.Gaza401.4#
Terence’s Seddon,unfortunately,was scrapped because of a mishap on sloping ground that twisted the chassis frame… The Seddon was replaced by a Foden S21 Spaceship
Sputnik FG6LX/24,Luton Van-Bodied,Rigid Eight-Wheeler Lorry,XAN 291,ex-RHM=Rank Hovis McDougall.
NOTE:-
Seddon rigid eight-wheeler lorries were produced from 1958 to 1964. How many were made? George Rhodes Tuby told me about 400 were made.
Lorry photographer,writer and enthusiast,Peter Davies,says around 100 or even less. So take your pick.
They were relatively rare when they were new…their even rarer now. I myself have only ever seen two in the flesh-metal:4712 PK and RVL 723.
I currently know of only two other Seddon rigid eight-wheeler fairground lorries:-
Seddon DD8,Pennine Premium Mk1-Cabbed,Luton Van-Bodied,SWB,R8x4,Lorry,UBU 720,Oldham,1959-1960,Billy Williams,Rhyl,Wales.Big Wheels.
And,as far as I know,both of the above lorries no longer exist…
Foden,AEC And The Commercial Vehicle Motor Show .
There is one vehicle that stands out in the photograph below,QV,and it gives the game - or rather year - away And its that AEC Regent Full Fronted/Weymann Streamlined
Double Decker Bus on the AEC stand The details of this particular omnibus are precisely documented in the history of buses and motorcoaches
This AEC bus,CNW 902,was converted into a half-cab in 1942.
AEC Regent 06613672,Weymann FH28,28R Streamlined Double Decker Bus,BN.M581,BWE 526,12-1935,Demonstrator.On loan to Sheffield,then sold to Sheffield in March 1937 as A 208,
and was converted into a half-cab…in 1937? Apart from the Sheffield livery it was virtually similar to the above Leeds bus.
The Foden Jubliee S-Type DG and Jubilee OG Lorry Ranges were introduced in 1935 and these were fitted with the S2 Airstream Streamlined Cab,its split windscreen had four
sections.Made 1935-1937.This was gradually replaced by the S9 Cab,made 1936-1938,which was similar to its replacement the S10,but all lorries had the straight upright
exposed radiator. The new Foden DG range was introduced at the Commercial Vehicle Motor Show,Earls Court,London,in November 1937 and had the S10 Cab and the
famous exposed curved radiator,the windscreen was in three sections - you could open the top half of the windscreen on the driver’s side.Postwar DG’s just had a two section windscreen.
The S10 Cab was made 1937-1948.The new OG model had a similar styled exposed radiator to the S10 radiator but was more straight and upright,plus it had a more upright cab,the S15,
later re-designated S19 in 1948.Made 1937-1957.
So from the above evidence concerning the above AEC Regent,CNW 902,and the Foden Jubilee S-Type DG models,etc,I can now say that the photograph shows the
1935 CVMS=Commercial Vehicle Motor Show at Olympia,London
, this photo has just reminded me of backing in over the railway lines to get onto their loading bays.
1958-1960,Hull & Glasgow Road Carriers Ltd,Hull.TN,OTL,PP&IBIP,861,4-2022.MushroomMan.3#
The Seddon was replaced by a Foden S21 Spaceship
