As a trade plater with a class 1 I sometimes get to move full rigs,
When are car drivers going to learn about over, or undertaking on rondabouts.
I am sometimes sorely tempted to carry on with my perfectly legal movement on a roundabout and take the side out of some idiot driver who is in a hurry. Dont they realise an artic bends in the middle,
Fortunately for these d***heads, it weould be unprofessional to do so, plus as every HGV lad knows we are always at fault in an RTA.
rocky 7:
as every HGV lad knows we are always at fault in an RTA.
Many seem to have this view but is that because the professional trucker is approached first by the police?
Who would you want to talk to first - the professional or the numpty ?
just squish their car, they won’t do it again 
Perhaps the answer is to squash them, making sure it is their fault. Then at least their insurance company can quote a realistic premium for the idiot that they are insuring.
The problem is that because we are professional drivers we do the thinking for the rest of the roadusers and prevent the accidents. This in turn encourages the idiots to carry on as before.
A short time ago I was on a SC approaching a roundabout which was the start of a DC. An artic came round the roundabout towards me and was immediately overtaken by a transit van. Both artic drivers had to brake to save this idiots life. I doubt if he realised what a stupid mistake he had made and will carry on regardless.
What might help would be police monitoring such places and advising drivers of their errors, just as they did before the era of “Safety Cameras”
When I worked for the Belgians, this happened in England when a car tried to undercut me. I closed the gap so close they had to stay put. I had a left ■■■■■■ so I could judge the distance quite well. I put on the handbrake and got out, you could see the look of horror on the drivers face as I walked back to explain the error of his ways 
Imagine his surprise when he had a foreign driver in a foreign truck giving him a bollocking in a foreign dialect, namely “Broad Yorkshire” 
I doubt it will improve the standards of driving but I bet one man will remember it well, and may think twice next time around.
Just carry on and crush em, only way their gonna learn, if I see one trying to pull a stunt like that on a tight roundabout I make full use of the road, they’ll panic cos they can’t get through the gap and stop, and will probrably get a load of abuse from the traffic behind who can’t understand why they’ve stopped . Even then I’ve had a few desperate souls who’ve driven up over the roundabout just to get by (hopefully damaging their car in the process)
Wheel Nut:
When I worked for the Belgians, this happened in England when a car tried to undercut me. I closed the gap so close they had to stay put. I had a left ■■■■■■ so I could judge the distance quite well. I put on the handbrake and got out, you could see the look of horror on the drivers face as I walked back to explain the error of his waysImagine his surprise when he had a foreign driver in a foreign truck giving him a bollocking in a foreign dialect, namely “Broad Yorkshire”
I’ve had the same thing loads of times i live in Roundabout city (milton Keynes) when i used to come home to park i used to get this quite alot there faces are really funny when you get out and there screaming bloody foreign drivers And you ask them if there stupid in!!! " OH YOUR ENGLISH"
The same happened to me on a Roundabout in Poole on Wednesday. A loaded 7.5 tonner came around the outside of me, then I had to brake earlier than anticipated. I sounded my horn to him so when the lights went to green he just sat there laughing. I was wanting to grab my scaffold bar and up the iron level in his blood. Then he set off and gestured to me. Don’t know why he was telling me he only has one sugar. I suppose it was all my fault for sounding my horn and giving him the oppertunity to cut me up. It’s seen all to often.
I can live with car drivers doing it, they dont know any better, but i find more and more artic drivers doing this. 
i was under the impression trucks had right of way on roundabouts,or is that another myth??,sure the highway code says something about it…wheres rog when you need him??
buck rogers:
i was under the impression trucks had right of way on roundabouts,or is that another myth??,sure the highway code says something about it…wheres rog when you need him??
MYTH
ROG:
buck rogers:
i was under the impression trucks had right of way on roundabouts,or is that another myth??,sure the highway code says something about it…wheres rog when you need him??MYTH
thanks rog,and heres me thinking im first round here for the last 15 odd years…
see and theres me thinking a rounabout was a junction and theres no overtaking at junctions( well according to the highway code).
personally i take up as much room as i need at r.abouts but theres always a few willing to take a risk. and yes there seems to be more trucks out there who after sitting behind you for the last 10 miles will pull out 100 yards before the roundabout and try and pass you 
dave:
see and theres me thinking a rounabout was a junction and theres no overtaking at junctions( well according to the highway code).
Depends on the situation…
Perfectly OK to overtake/pass another vehicle heading in the same direction IF SAFE TO DO SO.
What a lot of drivers do not plan for is that the other vehicle being overtaken or passed may not keep to the correct line or within their lane
For larger vehicles many drivers not anticipate the room that they will require and on many occasions those large vehicles are physically unable to keep within lanes designed for cars.
This is where the professional driver of a large vehicle has to assess the situation very early so that they can take the room on the approach to try and prevent others from getting a chance to act numptyish at the hazard.
It is one of the few occasions that the large vehicle driver can act in a seemingly ‘selfish’ way to police the other traffic for everyones safety.
ROG:
dave:
see and theres me thinking a rounabout was a junction and theres no overtaking at junctions( well according to the highway code).Depends on the situation…
Perfectly OK to overtake/pass another vehicle heading in the same direction IF SAFE TO DO SO.What a lot of drivers do not plan for is that the other vehicle being overtaken or passed may not keep to the correct line or within their lane
For larger vehicles many drivers not anticipate the room that they will require and on many occasions those large vehicles are physically unable to keep within lanes designed for cars.
This is where the professional driver of a large vehicle has to assess the situation very early so that they can take the room on the approach to try and prevent others from getting a chance to act numptyish at the hazard.
It is one of the few occasions that the large vehicle driver can act in a seemingly ‘selfish’ way to police the other traffic for everyones safety.
A lot of roundabouts are more than big enough to get two LGVs round at the same time, but you get the occasional driver who is to lazy to turn his steering wheel and ‘cuts’ the roundabout.
My HGV instructor impressed this on me when he told me I had ‘no lane discipline’ being a good instructor, I learned my lesson and try to stay in the lane I’m in on roundabouts.
I think the reason maybe they pass on roundabouts might be down to
the ability of the professional driver using his/her indicators to give other
drivers a little clue to where he/she intends to go.
Ive seen more trucks NOT indicating on roundabouts than ive seen indicate!
still no excuse for daft overtaking manouvre, so next time it happens just
make a quick check your indicators are working…
renaultman:
A lot of roundabouts are more than big enough to get two LGVs round at the same time, but you get the occasional driver who is to lazy to turn his steering wheel and ‘cuts’ the roundabout.
My HGV instructor impressed this on me when he told me I had ‘no lane discipline’ being a good instructor, I learned my lesson and try to stay in the lane I’m in on roundabouts.
Quite possibly they are physically large enough, but the driver in the other truck trying to clip your wings, probably missed the fact that my trailer axles maybe right at the back and I needed to use that extra 18’’ towards the centre lane marking. I am talking about roundabouts like the old Tony’s roundabout or Blyth when their actions cause my trailer to bounce off a curb and spew the 52 pallets of glass coffee jars through the side.
The lane markings are measured out for the average family car, not two 44 tonners
ROG:
dave:
see and theres me thinking a rounabout was a junction and theres no overtaking at junctions( well according to the highway code).Depends on the situation…
Perfectly OK to overtake/pass another vehicle heading in the same direction IF SAFE TO DO SO.What a lot of drivers do not plan for is that the other vehicle being overtaken or passed may not keep to the correct line or within their lane
For larger vehicles many drivers not anticipate the room that they will require and on many occasions those large vehicles are physically unable to keep within lanes designed for cars.
This is where the professional driver of a large vehicle has to assess the situation very early so that they can take the room on the approach to try and prevent others from getting a chance to act numptyish at the hazard.
It is one of the few occasions that the large vehicle driver can act in a seemingly ‘selfish’ way to police the other traffic for everyones safety.
thats every roundabout and junction in aberdeen coverd then lol
Wheel Nut:
renaultman:
A lot of roundabouts are more than big enough to get two LGVs round at the same time, but you get the occasional driver who is to lazy to turn his steering wheel and ‘cuts’ the roundabout.
My HGV instructor impressed this on me when he told me I had ‘no lane discipline’ being a good instructor, I learned my lesson and try to stay in the lane I’m in on roundabouts.Quite possibly they are physically large enough, but the driver in the other truck trying to clip your wings, probably missed the fact that my trailer axles maybe right at the back and I needed to use that extra 18’’ towards the centre lane marking. I am talking about roundabouts like the old Tony’s roundabout or Blyth when their actions cause my trailer to bounce off a curb and spew the 52 pallets of glass coffee jars through the side.
The lane markings are measured out for the average family car, not two 44 tonners
I’m more on about the huge ones like Ferrybridge and the M18/A1 ones.
Blythe etc were do-able if everyone was prepared to give enough road, but not worth the hassle IMO
What happens if another LGV is turning right at said roundabouts and is loaded?
renaultman:
What happens if another LGV is turning right at said roundabouts and is loaded?
Now i could be wrong here, but i’ll have a guess. …He’ll have to wait until he hasn’t got a large vehicle on his lefthand side?