Overspeed

The amount of driver urban myths and general BS posted in this thread by certain members is unreal. :unamused:

as we all know the legal limit for LGV’s on a motorway is 60mph, but if your vehicle is restricted to a lower speed then when you exceed that set speed you are breaking the law re construction and use of said vehicle.

MisterStrood:

lost:
I always get that overspeed when i hit the M20 that kin hill, if the speed limit is 60mph whats the problem kin stupid idea, my truck is limited to 55mph so the overspeed come on everytime i go over that speed.

The speed limit is 60mph for those trucks from before 1986 - when they introduced limiters. For those after is 55mph so it equals 90km/h around EU.

I’ll deal with this one, Westhams isn’t even worth commenting on.

So, are you suggesting that there are various speed limits in place for vehicles identical in every way except for their age? Actually that’s not as stupid as it sounds… Okay, here we go; instead of altering speed limits according to vehicle age, why not alter them according to DRIVERS age? After all we know the aged don’t react quite as fast anymore, so I reckon a blanket 55mph max for anyone over 60, also I reckon because of the cat like reactions of youth then anyone under 26 should be allowed to drive at 100mph Everywhere!

Or maybe the whole idea, along with your post is bollox too.

The speed limiters were introduced with the objective of saving fuel and reducing pollution not for safety reasons (something which the traffic commissioners appear to have forgotten). They are not to do with safety…in fact truck driver deaths went UP in the year after their blanket introduction.

The speed limit for trucks on motorways is 60 mph, running over 56 mph downhill is quite legal.

What isn’t legal is messing about with the speed limiter so you can exceed 56 mph. But you can set the limiter to a lower top speed if you wish.

westham67:
as we all know the legal limit for LGV’s on a motorway is 60mph, but if your vehicle is restricted to a lower speed then when you exceed that set speed you are breaking the law re construction and use of said vehicle.

^^^^ I think that’s the winner for the biggest load of bollox spouted on this thread.

westham67:
as we all know the legal limit for LGV’s on a motorway is 60mph, but if your vehicle is restricted to a lower speed then when you exceed that set speed you are breaking the law re construction and use of said vehicle.

Are you a DCPC trainer by any chance…

westham67:
as we all know the legal limit for LGV’s on a motorway is 60mph, but if your vehicle is restricted to a lower speed then when you exceed that set speed you are breaking the law re construction and use of said vehicle.

You’re only breaking the law if you tamper with the limiter to enable it to exceed 56mph

It doesn’t matter if your limiter is set at 50, 52, 56 or whatever, you can legally travel at 60mph on a motorway.

Correct me if I’m wrong (like I have to ask! :wink: ) but as I understand it, your tacho will flag an overspeed when it exceeds the speed of the limiter by a certain amount AND for a certain period of time (don’t know what those limits are though). So if your company has had the limiter set at 50, it’ll overspeed at a slower speed than one set at 56.

If two drivers (one with a limiter set at 50mph and the other set at 56mph - and assuming neither have tampered with their vehicle) are both descending a Motorway hill with exhaust brake on and doing 56mph how can one be legal and the other not!

My company also has a points system for infringements, but we’ve been told that overspeeds are ignored unless they are over 94kmh (should be in excess of 96kph imo)

Nezza:
If two drivers (one with a limiter set at 50mph and the other set at 56mph - and assuming neither have tampered with their vehicle) are both descending a Motorway hill with exhaust brake on and doing 56mph how can one be legal and the other not!

Neither driver in your scenario is breaking the law as the 60 mph limit has not been exceeded.
Regardless of what speed a Co may set their limiters at, the fact remains that the LAW states the limit for a HGV on a motorway is 60 mph not some numpty in a suit who’s never driven anything larger than an Insignia.

The driver with the limiter set at 50 may well get an overspeed which the Co may want to deal with internally, but no law has been broken.

My point exactly! :slight_smile:

truckyboy:
Our company runs a points system, so every infringement carries 3 points, and 18 points equals a disciplinary.
3 points is allocated to the driver for all overspeeds, even if they do not overspeed the legal roadwork limits, so 58mph on a motorway will get a driver 3 points, and a letter which you have to sign, accepting the infringement, very unfair i think.

is that dhl truckyboy ?

company I used to work for used to set the overspeed to 52 mph I was forever cancelling it but I never got an infringement and it never showed up on any print outs ?

ROB K I find myself agreeing with you yet again.
What really amazes me is that drivers read post like this and think they don’t need the DCPC as crap as it turned out to be they some sort of education.

4aaaa4dd:
very unfair i think.

is that dhl truckyboy ?

Of course it’s unfair & yes it’s probably it’s probably DHL, another zb outfit that’s totally gone & zb the job up, vehicle speeds should be at the drivers discression… :imp: :smiling_imp: :exclamation:

4aaaa4dd:
company I used to work for used to set the overspeed to 52 mph I was forever cancelling it but I never got an infringement and it never showed up on any print outs ?

Over speed occurances appear at the bottom of the driver print out as >>, with date and time.
An over speed print out can be done that will also state the speed done, a speed trace (V-diagram) print out will also show time and speed.

Was tipping today at a company in Bradford today and two drivers there have been put on formal warnings for overspeed wonder how that would stand up in a tribunal if the overspeeds were on a motorway and not over 96kph

mazzer:
Was tipping today at a company in Bradford today and two drivers there have been put on formal warnings for overspeed wonder how that would stand up in a tribunal if the overspeeds were on a motorway and not over 96kph

Ah well the thing is that they probably wouldn’t have a leg to stand on as it is obviously against company policy to get an overspeed. Like has been said many times they haven’t broken the law of the land, but they have however contravened company policy.

Think of it another way; company X has a policy which states that drivers must wear seat belts whilst on their (private) premises and a driver gets caught on site not wearing one. He hasn’t broken the law of the land but has contravened company policy, thus leaving himself wide open to dismissal.

So, as a driver on an analogue tacho, I believe these are manually adjustable?
My light comes on at 50mph but the limiter is 56mph, we have no company policy on this but just curious.
Its good on a dual carriageway as it reminds me to back off :smiley:

I am so sorry to the guys who think I am ignoring them…especially Rob K who made me laugh so much, I spilt coffee over my desk…ha ha
Anyway, now that SOLSTOR have sacked me, I can divulge: The T/M who isn’t really, but a trained up clerk, because they couldn’t get anyone to do the job for the wages offered, thought he could justify his wages, by implementing a great idea and that was the points/infringement system. Now although its not a legal requirement, they introduced it more of a way to get drivers to actually listen to their inexperienced views. They invested in sophisticated equipment ( tacho disc or MAN system ) and of course every thing apart from breathing, was recorded back to the office.
Now as you can imagine, I being a rebel, often refused to sign infringements, trying to explain the rules to them, but they being they, wouldn’t accept, and often threatened me with a disciplinary, but I would sign the forms with the words under duress
Anyway, I digress, I was not the only one to be dismissed, and all 3 of us were dismissed, and banned from the site, which meant I couldn’t even work for an agency that worked for them. And at the moment, I am not bothered, just chilling at home, but what with the orders being dished out, re-housework, cooking meals etc, it wont be long before Im back behind the wheel, tons of agency work being advertised at the moment. As an added bonus, and in case you havnt heard, or read, they dismissed me after 9 years, because I dared to write a note, and left it in the cab of a truck, that you wouldn't put your dog in, the driver had a serious issue with personal hygiene, and I called him a dirty smelly C you next Tuesday ` and to take a shower whenever he could, get rid of the flee ridden matress cover, and at least change your clothing on a more regular basis ( often wore 1 shirt a week, including food stains ) and often slept in his clothes, and sweated like a pig ) I did let him have both barrels, but, would have said it to his face if I had the chance, but I only drove others trucks when they were on rest days, and my start time was 1400, so it was an impossible task. I had never experienced any other cab with such an odour, and had never driven that truck before, even when I was working full time. So that’s it, life of leisure for a little while longer, until something suitable comes my way.