truckyboy:
Our company runs a points system, so every infringement carries 3 points, and 18 points equals a disciplinary.
3 points is allocated to the driver for all overspeeds, even if they do not overspeed the legal roadwork limits, so 58mph on a motorway will get a driver 3 points, and a letter which you have to sign, accepting the infringement, very unfair i think.
Who do you work for??
spend most of my day cancelling the bloody thing, carry on 
DON’T sign for ANY infringement. 
it’s not law 
company bullstein = JOBS FOR THE BOYS! 
-for what its worth> my take on this whole ‘overspeeding pre-warning’ /Overspeeding 
bullshine is this; we are working under European rules,and with digi tachos geared up for use on the European mainland-- the warning is flashed up solely for the DRIVERs benefit, as any prolonged downhill ‘running-away’ at over 90kmh would upon reading of digicard by B.A.G./polizia stradale/POLIS/Gendarmerie etc(other authorities are available), probably cause a LARGE fine/trip to cashpoint/night in jail(dependent on severity/mood of said officials etc)… It is not intended for reference by management or UK police/VOSA and the warning is null void and totally irrelevant here because of the 60 MPH limit on motorways ie; 97kmh or thereabouts chrs d
truckyboy:
Our company runs a points system, so every infringement carries 3 points, and 18 points equals a disciplinary.
3 points is allocated to the driver for all overspeeds, even if they do not overspeed the legal roadwork limits, so 58mph on a motorway will get a driver 3 points, and a letter which you have to sign, accepting the infringement, very unfair i think.
Overspeed isn’t an infringement if you don’t exceed the vehicle speed limit so simply chuck it back at them unsigned and tell them to go read up on the rules. You’re going soft in your old age Bob.
hyper26:
if u want to stop the ecoroll set cruise and knock it into manual it wont do it then
You can also disable it fully in the settings menu, last page if you want to keep it in auto but stop the Eco roll.
Eco roll is cool IMHO until you get to a hilly region, then it just becomes a dangerous PITA, especially when it dumps two gears (if you forgot to disable the system) and shoots the revs around to 2500rpm in a flash making lots of noise and hardly slowing you any more !!
It’s the name which I think is the problem. Over speed sounds like its supposed to stop you breaking the 60mph limit on the motorway but its not that simple. If a vehicle is restricted to 50 the only way to do 55 is to coast down hill. In doing so you’re not in full control of the vehicle despite being well under the speed limit.
Terry T:
It’s the name which I think is the problem. Over speed sounds like its supposed to stop you breaking the 60mph limit on the motorway but its not that simple. If a vehicle is restricted to 50 the only way to do 55 is to coast down hill. In doing so you’re not in full control of the vehicle despite being well under the speed limit.
NO NO NO NO NO NO! Do not make the mistake of thinking that this form of coasting means that one is not fully in control of the vehicle. Whilst doing mach 2 downhill with your hair on fire after you’ve knocked it into neutral could quite rightly be construed as a dangerous form of coasting, the coasting we are talking about here is as safe as a safe thing that’s been on a safe course. The vehicle weight and momentum means that no throttle input is required to propel the vehicle, this is exactly the same as coasting up to traffic lights, up to roundabouts, junctions etc.
If this was unsafe then by definition we would only ever be accelerating or braking. No other.
Volvos have this eco roll as well and when using it you can easily overspeed without realising, so now before I get too a prolonged down hill section I knock it down to 85 kph and set overspeed to +3 kph it will then use the exhaust brake to restrain the truck speed.
I am waiting for a telematics or microlise report for over revving out of the green band. i’ll post on here if I do
To exceed the speed of a limited vehicle requires extra forces over which you have no control over. How dangerous it is to coast at 91kmh is obviously debatable and personally I’d say its negligible but the fact remains that neither the driver or the truck are creating such speeds leading to the over speed warning.
Terry T:
To exceed the speed of a limited vehicle requires extra forces over which you have no control over. How dangerous it is to coast at 91kmh is obviously debatable and personally I’d say its negligible but the fact remains that neither the driver or the truck are creating such speeds leading to the over speed warning.
The limiter is an aftermarket item, nothing detrimental will occur at 60mph
Cheggy:
Terry T:
To exceed the speed of a limited vehicle requires extra forces over which you have no control over. How dangerous it is to coast at 91kmh is obviously debatable and personally I’d say its negligible but the fact remains that neither the driver or the truck are creating such speeds leading to the over speed warning.The limiter is an aftermarket item, nothing detrimental will occur at 60mph
60mph again. It’s nothing to do with the motorway speed limit. You’re exceeding the speed the vehicle has been restricted to.
Terry, you’re obviously struggling with some aspect of this, so I’ll try to clarify it a little; it IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW TO TRAVEL IN EXCESS OF THE SPEED TO WHICH YOUR VEHICLE IS LIMITED TO. There, sorry for shouting but obviously I needed to stress the point for you.
I’m not sure of the exact language used but it goes along the lines of this; “a vehicle which falls under the scope of speed limiter regulations (that’s us ) must not be capable of being powered to a speed in excess of 90kph”.
Now the relevant bit is POWERED. This has been established already in case law, and a vehicle on the overrun providing it meets the criteria (motorway and no faster than 60 mph) will not and can not fall foul of the law.
Hope that’s cleared it up for you dude.
It’s not me who is struggling. These threads will continue for as long as people correlate over speeds with the speed limit for motorways. I know it’s not illegal to over speed a vehicle up to 60 mph. The limit is the limit.
But over speeds infringements are caused by drivers coasting downhill. It doesn’t matter if they’re breaking the law or not or whether over speed infringements are illegal or not. I’m merely pointing out why they occur and it’s zero to do with the 60 mph limit of a motorway.
Born Idle:
Just an aside…I was coming down the Woodhead Pass going to Yorkshire a few weeks ago so decided to kick out of gear & roll. My tacho is a VDO and I know what happens, so I sat on the brakes at about 59mph all the way. Guess what…I still got the overspeed notice. Now technically I was speeding, but how the heck did my tacho know that I wasn’t on a motorway where I’m allowed to do up to 60?
The tacho doesn’t care where you are. Your speed was above that which is set by the limiter. Over speed warnings have nothing to do with the speed of the road you’re on.
Terry T:
It’s not me who is struggling. These threads will continue for as long as people correlate over speeds with the speed limit for motorways. I know it’s not illegal to over speed a vehicle up to 60 mph. The limit is the limit.But over speeds infringements are caused by drivers coasting downhill. It doesn’t matter if they’re breaking the law or not or whether over speed infringements are illegal or not. I’m merely pointing out why they occur and it’s zero to do with the 60 mph limit of a motorway.
Ah, my apologies Terry, I didn’t quite get the angle you were coming from.
It’s worth bearing in mind though that an overspeed warning is just that. It’s a warning, not an infringement, and as long as my previously stated criterion are met it has as little weight in law as a “low washer fluid level” has.
No worries mate. I was just trying to inform some people such as the poster above as to what an over speed is and how/why they occur.
Most companies don’t bother with them. I’ve had 3 in one shift with nothing said. I know people who get 5 or 6 every shift and their company doesn’t care. There will always be companies that do care though and if they want to discipline you for it then I imagine they can. Companies can set whatever policies they like whether you’re breaking the law or not.
lost:
I always get that overspeed when i hit the M20 that kin hill, if the speed limit is 60mph whats the problem kin stupid idea, my truck is limited to 55mph so the overspeed come on everytime i go over that speed.
The speed limit is 60mph for those trucks from before 1986 - when they introduced limiters. For those after is 55mph so it equals 90km/h around EU.
MisterStrood:
lost:
I always get that overspeed when i hit the M20 that kin hill, if the speed limit is 60mph whats the problem kin stupid idea, my truck is limited to 55mph so the overspeed come on everytime i go over that speed.The speed limit is 60mph for those trucks from before 1986 - when they introduced limiters. For those after is 55mph so it equals 90km/h around EU.
No it’s not. The speed limit for an HGV is 60mph or 96kph.
truckyboy:
Our company runs a points system, so every infringement carries 3 points, and 18 points equals a disciplinary.
3 points is allocated to the driver for all overspeeds, even if they do not overspeed the legal roadwork limits, so 58mph on a motorway will get a driver 3 points, and a letter which you have to sign, accepting the infringement, very unfair i think.
Are you still working for the large fruit importer with a cold store in the dartford/Crawford area Truckyboy?.
If so how ironic they are now giving you a bollocking for something they used to actively encourage.
Cheers
Neilf
