Over the water in the 90's EC and beyond

Thanks Robert, the bloke that asked was over the moon with the photo.

Great pictures Robert, I wish I had a good camera back then and have not to worry about the printing costs.Modern digital cameras are great for that .

My pleasure, gents. Ashley Coghill was making a similar comment to me on the phone this morning! Thing is, because I used to write stuff for the trucking magazines in those days, I always took a good camera with me in the lorry, and even in the car. This is partly why I have so many images! Robert :smiley:

Suedehead:
Second row up,4th left . . looks like one of Arcade motors Renaults.

Yes it does!

Here is one for you tiltmen :slight_smile: passed this one today pulled by a Russian Renault premium…

Reg Danne

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Dirty Dan:
Here is one for you tiltmen :slight_smile: passed this one today pulled by a Russian Renault premium…

Reg Danne

Thanks Dan! I hardly ever see tilts these days and I was getting withdrawal symptoms (like scaling the wall of my flat to gain entry; and tossing the hem of my blankets on the top of the wardrobe with a plank normally used for shelving…).

Never mind. My own 1990 tilt (pictured below) was rather a fine one. Although it was a bit old and tired when I bought it, it was beautifully built, being a Van Hool with SAF running gear. It was a bit on the heavy side as a result of high build-quality but it sat well on the road even when empty. I bought it from Roger Ellerway who had used it for Middle-East work so it had a double spare-wheel carrier aft, and fully functioning trailer boxes (a kitchen and a tool box) on each side. All the side boards had been colour-coded so reassembling was never too arduous. I sold it to a Russian in the end so I expect its still trundling in the tundra somewhere even now. Robert :smiley:




Hi Robert! Well i sad it before and i Will say it again thats a propper looking lorry!
So whats the story here then? Found this pic on other threde so not my pic,curtesie(or how it spels,hope you Know what i mean) to who ever took it :smiley:

Reg Danne

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Dirty Dan:
Hi Robert! Well i sad it before and i Will say it again thats a propper looking lorry!
So whats the story here then? Found this pic on other threde so not my pic,curtesie(or how it spels,hope you Know what i mean) to who ever took it :smiley:

Reg Danne

Basically, Dan, the story is that I bought the unit (Eurostar 420 with Twin-splitter) from the bloke I’d been driving it for (Jeff Welton) and set up on my own. I’d been doing Europe, Middle-East and North Africa with it for Jeff and I intended to carry on doing M/E. I made arrangements with Ewe at Astran and got my permits - everything. Then I ran out of money and never really recovered the age-old cashflow crisis. I did Europe with it for a year, mostly for Anglo-Overseas who eventually made me use their own Euroliners as customers were by then getting too impatient with tilts. It was an interesting and highly informative year, but I discovered that I was a much better driver than I was a haulier or businessman, so I brought it to a close before my house got involved in the finances! It wasn’t a resounding success but it wasn’t a complete failure either; I learnt loads from the experience and if I had my time over again I would still do it. Robert :slight_smile:

Ahh ok, liked it whit the tilt better :smiley: always like them,enyojed my time on ACT ( as i was saying in the f10,12,16 threde)were we used to pick up trailers at the harboers in Stocholm,trailers from Finland, Est,LT and LV they were most tilts witch we deliverd al over Sweden and Norway :smiley:
But most of that work is noe done by eastrn bloc drivers…

Reg Danne

Hi! Buy the Way, I still see alot of them old tilts over here. I live near road that ends at Kapellskär. Its a harbor and alot of the traffic from Finland,Russian,est,lv and lt arrives there.

Reg Danne

Hey Robert and Dan, even in the '90 they blamed me with a tilt in the steel works, time already had gone to help each other out
to built up and down the tilt. But by the way, they wanted your help if standing on the hard shoulder :frowning:
Pitty the camaradery has gone already for decades. And now they don’t even put up there hands on long runs “if they still exists”.
Last week saw some Eastern’s helping each other to avoid a Wrecker, thought back at the time decades ago :blush:
Imaginable to put two starting cables on each other and a steelbar between the wheels to help each other out, and been soaked
of diesel to help out a colleague.

Cheers Eric,

tiptop495:
Hey Robert and Dan, even in the '90 they blamed me with a tilt in the steel works, time already had gone to help each other out
to built up and down the tilt. But by the way, they wanted your help if standing on the hard shoulder :frowning:
Pitty the camaradery has gone already for decades. And now they don’t even put up there hands on long runs “if they still exists”.
Last week saw some Eastern’s helping each other to avoid a Wrecker, thought back at the time decades ago :blush:
Imaginable to put two starting cables on each other and a steelbar between the wheels to help each other out, and been soaked
of diesel to help out a colleague.

Cheers Eric,

You have to be outside the EU now before another Brit will stop for you. It’s not just about cameraderie either: now that all drivers carry a mobile phone, diesel card, breakdown card, tyre-service card, bank card and often a satellite too, there’s rarely any need to stop for them.

When I was doing Middle-East and North Africa even as late as the mid-2000s, we would all stop for each other. Funnily enough, on North Africa work, as soon as you got back into Spain you became invisible again. I once stopped for a DTS driver in southern Spain, returning from Morocco, and he had been there all afternoon and hundreds of North Africa run trucks had passed him. I was the only one who stopped. He was an ex-Middle-East man (Andy Andrews) and he remembered the days when everyone would stop, even in Spain. This would have been about 1998. Robert

I loved my days on tilts, when I was no for Trans Mondo we had tilts and fridges and even though the fridges were easy work I always put my hand up for the tilts.
With Bustone in the mid 90’s I was starting to get " not wanted here " looks when I pulled up with a tilt at some of the tube factories. Once the Euro linners came on the scene with the electric roll back roofs that was it over for the tilt. I remember being in a steel works in the south of Italy with my tilt and was told to strip out the front bay outside, ( it was mid summer and just after lunch ) there was a line of French German and Dutch Euro linners that got processed while I was getting stripped out and not one of them offered to help. They all just sipped coffee in the air conditioned office while they watched me. After I was loaded I had to do the same again to build it up again.
As for brake downs as Robert mentioned outside Europe most folk used to stop, and do what ever they could to help, even if it was to take a message to get help, or a bit of moral support, but in the EEC you were invisible. I even got passed by a line of Hangartener trucks when I was changing a wheel, a very disappointing day.

Jeff…

Some more for you tilt men :smiley: i was unloading a machin for export in the harbor of Kapellskär and found some Russians tilts.

Reg Danne

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Love to have one of them TIR plates

irish lorries:
Love to have one of them TIR plates

You can buy 'em new in truck parts outlets. Or if you don’t want to splash out, there are plenty floating about. You could try an auto-jumble or see if there are any on ebay. Robert :slight_smile:

robert1952:

irish lorries:
Love to have one of them TIR plates

You can buy 'em new in truck parts outlets. Or if you don’t want to splash out, there are plenty floating about. You could try an auto-jumble or see if there are any on ebay. Robert :slight_smile:

I mean a vintage one

irish lorries:

robert1952:

irish lorries:
Love to have one of them TIR plates

You can buy 'em new in truck parts outlets. Or if you don’t want to splash out, there are plenty floating about. You could try an auto-jumble or see if there are any on ebay. Robert :slight_smile:

I mean a vintage one

You could try a scrap yard. The Dutch ones are by far the best: white border and white dots after each letter, and a darker blue than usual (like the one on my Breda Transport Actros). Robert

Are the UK and Ireland ones not like the one in your first photo