The trainer stated that you can go over a 15 hour day, twice a month. I dont believe this to be true as surely you have to complete everything within a 24hour period. So with a minimum of 9 hours daily rest=15 hour day. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, he said it is an offence to have digital tachographs set so they automatically go to rest, instead they should go to other work. from what i understood, it is the drivers responsibility to ensure the mode switch is set correctly?
The trainer stated that you can go over a 15 hour day, twice a month. I dont believe this to be true as surely you have to complete everything within a 24hour period. So with a minimum of 9 hours daily rest=15 hour day. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, he said it is an offence to have digital tachographs set so they automatically go to rest, instead they should go to other work. from what i understood, it is the drivers responsibility to ensure the mode switch is set correctly?
cheers
You are correct
I have never seen a law as to what mode a digi must default to - perhaps the dcpc trainer knows of one
Seems like yet another dcpc trainer with their own take on the regs
AaronR:
The trainer stated that you can go over a 15 hour day, twice a month. I dont believe this to be true as surely you have to complete everything within a 24hour period. So with a minimum of 9 hours daily rest=15 hour day. Can anyone confirm this?
I can confirm that he’s talking rubbish if that helps
Legally you can only go over a 15 hour spread-over if you’ve got held up and need to get to a suitable parking place.
AaronR:
Also, he said it is an offence to have digital tachographs set so they automatically go to rest, instead they should go to other work. from what i understood, it is the drivers responsibility to ensure the mode switch is set correctly?
I’m not sure what you mean, when the vehicle stops moving the mode will automatically go to other work.
If you mean when the ignition is switched off the mode will go to the mode that it’s been set for at the tachograph centre.
AaronR:
The trainer stated that you can go over a 15 hour day, twice a month. I dont believe this to be true as surely you have to complete everything within a 24hour period. So with a minimum of 9 hours daily rest=15 hour day. Can anyone confirm this?
I can confirm that he’s talking rubbish if that helps
Legally you can only go over a 15 hour spread-over if you’ve got held up and need to get to a suitable parking place.
AaronR:
Also, he said it is an offence to have digital tachographs set so they automatically go to rest, instead they should go to other work. from what i understood, it is the drivers responsibility to ensure the mode switch is set correctly?
I’m not sure what you mean, when the vehicle stops moving the mode will automatically go to other work.
If you mean when the ignition is switched off the mode will go to the mode that it’s been set for at the tachograph centre.
Thanks for the replies.
Apparently the trainer mentioned something about POA as to why you can go over 15 hour day?
In terms of the tacho, i meant when you stop and switch engine off.
AaronR:
Apparently the trainer mentioned something about POA as to why you can go over 15 hour day?
POA doesn’t count as working time but it also does not allow you to postpone your daily rest period.
The daily rest period must always fall within the 24 hour period from the start of the shift except in exceptional circumstances such as when you’re unexpectedly held up.
AaronR:
In terms of the tacho, i meant when you stop and switch engine off
Originally digital tachographs did default to other work when the ignition was switched off, but because some drivers forgot to put the tachograph on rest at the end of the shift the rules were change and tachograph centres were allowed to set the default activity to either other work or rest.
The trainer stated that you can go over a 15 hour day, twice a month. I dont believe this to be true as surely you have to complete everything within a 24hour period. So with a minimum of 9 hours daily rest=15 hour day. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, he said it is an offence to have digital tachographs set so they automatically go to rest, instead they should go to other work. from what i understood, it is the drivers responsibility to ensure the mode switch is set correctly?
cheers
You are correct
I have never seen a law as to what mode a digi must default to - perhaps the dcpc trainer knows of one
Seems like yet another dcpc trainer with their own take on the regs
The trainer stated that you can go over a 15 hour day, twice a month. I dont believe this to be true as surely you have to complete everything within a 24hour period. So with a minimum of 9 hours daily rest=15 hour day. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, he said it is an offence to have digital tachographs set so they automatically go to rest, instead they should go to other work. from what i understood, it is the drivers responsibility to ensure the mode switch is set correctly?
This ‘Trainer’ should be retrained immediately preferably after a frontal lobotomy with a round from a 44 magnum.
As others have stated (when single manned) you cannot exceed 15 hours spreadover, unless dealing with a current unforseen delay and heading for a suitable parking location.
ALL digital tachographs default to recording ‘work’ when they stop receiving impulses from the gearbox sender (‘driving’). What happens when you switch the ignition on or off is not covered by the Regulation (1360/2002) which is why we’ve had the ■■■■ things doing allsorts of different things since 2009. It would have made life so much more simple if things had been left alone.
geebee45:
ALL digital tachographs default to recording ‘work’ when they stop receiving impulses from the gearbox sender (‘driving’). What happens when you switch the ignition on or off is not covered by the Regulation (1360/2002) which is why we’ve had the ■■■■ things doing allsorts of different things since 2009.
I suppose if you believe the VU is permanently monitoring your activity by changing mode itself to rest when the ignition is switched off then its not covered by the legislation. I see only two things it should do automatically, and one thing it doesn’t permanently do if it sets itself to rest/break.
