As far as I can find, this is the latest article on the crash.
hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hu … ey-1426580
No details released yet as to the cause.
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Probably going to get slated for this, but 22 years old ? Surely any specialized transport should have an age limit, just saying.
pierrot 14:
Probably going to get slated for this, but 22 years old ? Surely any specialized transport should have an age limit, just saying.
At 18 they were flying spitfires.
The company obviously thought he was competent, and guessing he started as a trailer boy.
pierrot 14:
Probably going to get slated for this, but 22 years old ? Surely any specialized transport should have an age limit, just saying.
I was driving tank transporters at 18. Just saying 
pierrot 14:
Probably going to get slated for this, but 22 years old ? Surely any specialized transport should have an age limit, just saying.
It already has one, 21 for artic work!
the maoster:
pierrot 14:
Probably going to get slated for this, but 22 years old ? Surely any specialized transport should have an age limit, just saying.I was driving tank transporters at 18. Just saying
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Top training for tug driver’s.
^^^^ ■■■■■! Funny though
the maoster:
^^^^ ■■■■■! Funny though
^^^^^^^ slap
Passenger who was in the car has now died;
such a sad loss. r.i.p to them.
still more news has come out about it though
RM Group just been taken over by an unnamed buyer according to Begbies Traynor newsletter
Wheel Nut:
RM Group just been taken over by an unnamed buyer according to Begbies Traynor newsletter
hulldailymail.co.uk/news/bu … ed-3174914
Sounds like that accident nearly killed the company.
Nite Owl:
Wheel Nut:
RM Group just been taken over by an unnamed buyer according to Begbies Traynor newsletterhulldailymail.co.uk/news/bu … ed-3174914
Sounds like that accident nearly killed the company.
shame it didn’t. They’ve been allowed to continue trading after doing many things firms have been shut down for. Used to work with one of their ex drivers who left as only other option than running bent which he had no intention of doing. Multiple digi cards, going bust then hiding assets and coming back under a different name these cowboys have done it all.
A little background info.
An appeal from a Hull operator whose licence was revoked for operating as a ‘front’ has been dismissed after the upper tribunal found the traffic commissioner had given a “conspicuously clear and well-reasoned decision.”
Terence Hebden was disqualified indefinitely and found to be no longer of good repute following a PI in August 2019.
The deputy TC for the North East concluded that Hebden’s vehicles were not using authorised operating centres and PG9s and fixed penalties had been issued for dangerous loads, having an AdBlue emulator fitted, not having tachographs fitted and for vehicles not having insurance cover.
The DTC also said there was an overarching issue, in that Hebden’s licence was being used as a front by RM Group Hull and its controlling mind, Michael Holgate.
A written decision on the case said: “Terence Hebden deserves some sympathy, given his poor health – but not much, given his willingness to abdicate his responsibilities as a director and transport manager and to participate in a pretend arrangement whereby his operator’s licence and vehicle authorisation could be absorbed into Michael Holgate’s business.
“He did this for anticipated financial gain although he is unlikely to achieve any gain.”
Hebden appealed this decision, claiming that his “voice has not been heard in the long run up to the public inquiry.”
He also stated that the DVSA was not in full knowledge of all the circumstances leading up the PI.
However, the tribunal panel rejected Hebden’s argument. It said that further evidence provided by the operator was not admitted, but even if it was it would not have helped him.
“In the panel’s view, the deputy traffic commissioner was undoubtedly entitled to take the view which he did of Mr Hebden’s complicity in such a serious arrangement,” wrote judge Ward.
“Neither for the reasons advanced by Mr Hebden in his grounds of appeal nor as a result of the panel’s examination of the case can it be said that the decision of the deputy traffic commissioner was ‘plainly wrong’.
“Indeed, it is a conspicuously clear and well-reasoned decision, one which he was undoubtedly entitled to come to and which the Panel considers to be correct.”
Wheel Nut:
A little background info.An appeal from a Hull operator whose licence was revoked for operating as a ‘front’ has been dismissed after the upper tribunal found the traffic commissioner had given a “conspicuously clear and well-reasoned decision.”
Terence Hebden was disqualified indefinitely and found to be no longer of good repute following a PI in August 2019.
The deputy TC for the North East concluded that Hebden’s vehicles were not using authorised operating centres and PG9s and fixed penalties had been issued for dangerous loads, having an AdBlue emulator fitted, not having tachographs fitted and for vehicles not having insurance cover.
The DTC also said there was an overarching issue, in that Hebden’s licence was being used as a front by RM Group Hull and its controlling mind, Michael Holgate.
A written decision on the case said: “Terence Hebden deserves some sympathy, given his poor health – but not much, given his willingness to abdicate his responsibilities as a director and transport manager and to participate in a pretend arrangement whereby his operator’s licence and vehicle authorisation could be absorbed into Michael Holgate’s business.
“He did this for anticipated financial gain although he is unlikely to achieve any gain.”
Hebden appealed this decision, claiming that his “voice has not been heard in the long run up to the public inquiry.”
He also stated that the DVSA was not in full knowledge of all the circumstances leading up the PI.
However, the tribunal panel rejected Hebden’s argument. It said that further evidence provided by the operator was not admitted, but even if it was it would not have helped him.
“In the panel’s view, the deputy traffic commissioner was undoubtedly entitled to take the view which he did of Mr Hebden’s complicity in such a serious arrangement,” wrote judge Ward.
“Neither for the reasons advanced by Mr Hebden in his grounds of appeal nor as a result of the panel’s examination of the case can it be said that the decision of the deputy traffic commissioner was ‘plainly wrong’.
“Indeed, it is a conspicuously clear and well-reasoned decision, one which he was undoubtedly entitled to come to and which the Panel considers to be correct.”
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Why would you drive a truck with faulty brakes…just why!
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rearaxle:
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Peer pressure…
A gaffer and perhaps other drivers giving it the classic ‘I took it out last night and it was fine’. The driver was 22 and might well have felt older and ‘wiser’ colleagues were advising him for the best.
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rearaxle:
Why would you drive a truck with faulty brakes…just why!Sent from my SM-N976B using Tapatalk
Peer pressure…
A gaffer and perhaps other drivers giving it the classic ‘I took it out last night and it was fine’. The driver was 22 and might well have felt older and ‘wiser’ colleagues were advising him for the best.
Sadly true…Bath tipper all over again.
bbc.com/news/uk-england-38774080
7 years for truck owner in that case.
The driver in the fatal tipper crash in Bath had brake failure but was not prosecuted but his boss and mechanic got five years prison as part of the drivers daily pre trip safety checks doesn’t say you have to go underneath a lorry and it’s chassis to check brakes it’s simply a walk around check.