I have the following question: the driver moves from headquarters to the place where is the truck to retrieve it. The movement is done with a vehicle which falls outside the scope of Regulation 561/2006 (not equipped with digital tachograph- less than 3.5 tonnes). It is necessary that this period, ‘other work’, when placed manually in the tachograph card, not to exceed 15 hours (in order to make 9 hours of rest)? I think not, because the movement was performed with a vehicle falls outside the scope of Reg. 561/2006.
But I wait for other opinions.
Thanks!
My understanding is that all work done in a week that you drive an in scope vehicle has to be recorded, therefore this would need to be recorded as other work.
Your at work so I’d don’t matter you still need to record the time
Bit like saying I sat in the yard for 7 hours but as nothing was done my time don’t start till I go out…
If I’m reading the question right
I’m afraid to say its other work if you’re driving a vehicle for work use that’s out of scope of the EU drivers hours regs, and this has been clarified in a court between VOSA and a coach firm.
dmradu:
I have the following question: the driver moves from headquarters to the place where is the truck to retrieve it. The movement is done with a vehicle which falls outside the scope of Regulation 561/2006 (not equipped with digital tachograph- less than 3.5 tonnes). It is necessary that this period, ‘other work’, when placed manually in the tachograph card, not to exceed 15 hours (in order to make 9 hours of rest)? I think not, because the movement was performed with a vehicle falls outside the scope of Reg. 561/2006.
But I wait for other opinions.
Thanks!
Travelling to take charge of a vehicle that’s not at the drivers home or usual operating base cannot be regarded as break or rest, it’s other work.
The fact that he travelled in a vehicle that’s out of scope of EU regulations is completely irrelevant, he could travel by chauffeured limousine and it would still be regarded as other work for the EU regulations.
Any time spent travelling to a location to take charge of a
vehicle falling within the scope of this Regulation, or to return
from that location, when the vehicle is neither at the driver’s
home nor at the employer’s operational centre where the
driver is normally based, shall not be counted as a rest or
break unless the driver is on a ferry or train and has access to a
bunk or couchette.
edit: To answer the question, yes the travelling time should be manually recorded in the tachograph as other work.
I must add something: I come after a holiday.
And then these ‘other work’ should not exceed 15 hours? And then 9 hours rest period. That’s the question!
dmradu:
I must add something: I come after a holiday.
And then these ‘other work’ should not exceed 15 hours? That’s the question?
The time from the start of the shift to the end of the shift must not be more than 15 hours and that includes the travelling time from where you’re based to where you pick up the lorry, and you can only do that three times between weekly rest periods, the rest of the shifts will need a regular 11 hours hour daily rest period so cannot be more than 13 hours from the start of the shift to the end of the shift.
That is of course assuming we’re talking about a single manned journey.
Okay. I understand that this movement is, in fact, a further period of 24 hours.
Thanks!
Could you then say, for example, in the case of an agency driver, that travelling to various assignments would be classed as other work? The vehicle obviously wouldnt be at the drivers home, and not being an employee of the company? Or am I reading that wrong?
SuffolkLad:
Could you then say, for example, in the case of an agency driver, that travelling to various assignments would be classed as other work? The vehicle obviously wouldnt be at the drivers home, and not being an employee of the company? Or am I reading that wrong?
your reading that wrong
SuffolkLad:
Could you then say, for example, in the case of an agency driver, that travelling to various assignments would be classed as other work? The vehicle obviously wouldnt be at the drivers home, and not being an employee of the company? Or am I reading that wrong?
The agency driver would be taking over the vehicles at the various vehicle bases - the regs state at home or base
SuffolkLad:
Could you then say, for example, in the case of an agency driver, that travelling to various assignments would be classed as other work? The vehicle obviously wouldnt be at the drivers home, and not being an employee of the company? Or am I reading that wrong?
You can also claim travelling expenses for travelling to various assignments, or at least you used to be able to.
The rules were, you cannot claim travelling expenses for travelling to your regular place of work. As an agency driver, you don’t have a regular place of work, so you can claim.
Whether or not your agency will pay travelling expenses is a different matter.
Whether or not those rules have changed, I don’t know.