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robbo99.:
Either classroom based DCPC or online DCPC, ultimately it’s impossible to polish a turd.

What baffles .me on here is a few years ago when all this sh was being proposed, it was unanimous, everybody on here was against it.

Now I fully understand that it’s like ■■■■■■■ in the wind complaining about it all,.and nothing is going to change, but I find it amusing that most on here are not expressing any problem with it any longer …especially as it clearly has NOT worked in terms of improvements in professionalism, (unless somebody can refute that, and prove ne wrong, but good luck with that one :unamused: ) .
Not only that, some are not only going along with it all willingly and happily now,.but also pointing out the (dubious) merits of it all. :open_mouth: …not including those with vested interests either. :wink:
(Frangers will be along soon to use this comment against me about ■■■■ Brexit :unamused: :laughing: )

People are so easily swayed and influenced nowadays. :unamused:

Just to reiterate my point, I think it has been proven beyond doubt to be an utter waste of time and money,.and more of an excercise in ‘being seen to do the right thing’’ with no REAL.substance, …but rather a formality, not to mention a lucrative business. :bulb:

My personal position on it is this…
I only do it as I have to, to keep my ■■■■ job,.and I freely admit that if I could find somebody who would accept a brown envelope,.I’d be in there like a shot. :smiley:

Any takers pm me btw. :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

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I did my last one online never again.Its absolutley tiring having to keep watching a phone for 7 hours and they are watching you that you keep your eyes on the screen.As bad as it is,having to go to a classroom,its more relaxing I think

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Sploom:
I did my last one online never again.Its absolutley tiring having to keep watching a phone for 7 hours and they are watching you that you keep your eyes on the screen.As bad as it is,having to go to a classroom,its more relaxing I think

Perhaps better on a laptop or certainly using a larger monitor :question:

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robroy:

robbo99.:
Either classroom based DCPC or online DCPC, ultimately it’s impossible to polish a turd.

What baffles .me on here is a few years ago when all this sh was being proposed, it was unanimous, everybody on here was against it.

Now I fully understand that it’s like ■■■■■■■ in the wind complaining about it all,.and nothing is going to change, but I find it amusing that most on here are not expressing any problem with it any longer …especially as it clearly has NOT worked in terms of improvements in professionalism, (unless somebody can refute that, and prove ne wrong, but good luck with that one :unamused: ) .
Not only that, some are not only going along with it all willingly and happily now,.but also pointing out the (dubious) merits of it all. :open_mouth: …not including those with vested interests either. :wink:
(Frangers will be along soon to use this comment against me about [zb] Brexit :unamused: :laughing: )

People are so easily swayed and influenced nowadays. :unamused:

Just to reiterate my point, I think it has been proven beyond doubt to be an utter waste of time and money,.and more of an excercise in ‘being seen to do the right thing’’ with no REAL.substance, …but rather a formality, not to mention a lucrative business. :bulb:

My personal position on it is this…
I only do it as I have to, to keep my [zb] job,.and I freely admit that if I could find somebody who would accept a brown envelope,.I’d be in there like a shot. :smiley:

Any takers pm me btw. :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

Spot on robroy, driver acceptance, driver brainwashing, (those who seriously believe that the “training” makes them competent as against incompetent lol), drivers that actually see it for what it is, drivers who actually believe in the DCPC, it’s all a mixed bag really, but when it comes to DCPC instructors there are a lot for obvious reasons :smiley: that seriously believe the impossible that a turd can indeed be polished.

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Or they know moaning about it on Trucknet isn’t going to change anything so they don’t bother because it’s not worth the stress

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Deffo online …more relaxed in your own home

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DCPCFML:

Conor:

Narc:
Have any of you done the cpc online courses? I have found some for £40 for a day with a well known driver agency
Now I could email or ring them but I have not committed to giving them my details yet,so I am asking on this forum for reviews on online
cpc first if that’s ok

Thank’s

Are you talking Driver Hire? Did one last week with them when I was on holiday. Absolutely fine, actually thought it was better than classroom based. Person who took the course actually knew what she was on about, really knew which given it was the Drivers Hours and WTD modules is a bit of a rarity nowadays. Did mine on an evening which is spread over two 3.5hr sessions on consecutive evenings which seemed much much better than spending a whole day doing it and as someone who works nights starting the training at 6pm was a whole lot better than trying to do it from 8am. Like the classroom based one you still get a 15 minute coffee break mid-module…about an hour and a half in in my case. 17 people doing it the nights I did it.

They use something called Webex for the online meeting. You get sent an email with a link to start the session, it opens up in a browser and away you go. There is an app for Android and iOS but its crap and you’re better off just doing it on a browser. If you lose connection during the session you just click on the link and start it again.

They do expect you to pay attention and to participate, there was one guy on mine clearly not and he got warnings and a private message he was about to be kicked off. Seems a bit strange at first with the participation thing if you’ve not done it before. For me I never used Zoom or any of that during lockdown and this was the first online meeting thing I’d ever experienced. There were a few characters in my session which got the participation thing going quickly though…I think how well that works depends on how willing those taking the course are to say anything.

It was good enough for me that I’m going to book with them again in a few weeks. I can see myself doing the remaining four days I’ve got to do online, it’s just better all round. No having to go travel to the training, it’s in the comfort of your own home in your favourite comfy chair instead of the crappy seats they all seem to have and for me spreading it over two evenings is way better than one long arse day.

Certificate is sent to you via email. Just checked online records and it’s been uploaded.

Yes Conor. Driver Hire DCPC courses are excellent, very professional and value for money. I will be doing my refresher with them again. I’ve also heard good things about VR Service from friends who have used them. There really is no need to look or go anywhere else as they deliver everything you need for the cheapest possible cost.

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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switchlogic:
Or they know moaning about it on Trucknet isn’t going to change anything so they don’t bother because it’s not worth the stress

Yep,.as I said, nothing will change…but it does no harm to vent your anger and disapproval,.especially as it is more or less stress free in my case. :wink: :smiley:

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switchlogic:
Or they know moaning about it on Trucknet isn’t going to change anything so they don’t bother because it’s not worth the stress

Talking and moaning about the weather isn’t going to change the weather but it’s called conversation.

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robbo99.:

switchlogic:
Or they know moaning about it on Trucknet isn’t going to change anything so they don’t bother because it’s not worth the stress

Talking about the weather isn’t going to change the weather but it’s called conversation.

I get that,.which is why my contribution to the conversation is that the DCPC is…
Well you already know.

Added the edit as I was expecting you refuting the stress thing. :smiley:
Robbo…
Just noticed it was you and not Luke btw. :blush: :smiley:

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robbo99.:

switchlogic:
Or they know moaning about it on Trucknet isn’t going to change anything so they don’t bother because it’s not worth the stress

Talking and moaning about the weather isn’t going to change the weather but it’s called conversation.

I tend to try to not construct my conversations around moaning about things. Rare I know in this industry. :smiley:

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robroy:

switchlogic:
Or they know moaning about it on Trucknet isn’t going to change anything so they don’t bother because it’s not worth the stress

Yep,.as I said, nothing will change…but it does no harm to vent your anger and disapproval,.especially as it is more or less stress free in my case. :wink: :smiley:

Well if it helps you fire away, not my place to stop anyone, I’m just the opposite

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switchlogic:

robbo99.:

switchlogic:
Or they know moaning about it on Trucknet isn’t going to change anything so they don’t bother because it’s not worth the stress

Talking and moaning about the weather isn’t going to change the weather but it’s called conversation.

I tend to try to not construct my conversations around moaning about things. Rare I know in this industry. :smiley:

Yep as rare as rocking horse 5hlt.

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I did a full 35 hour online CPC course not so long ago, so much better than going somewhere random and sitting in a classroom all day, on uncomfortable chairs.
The giy deluvering ours was sound and said feel free to get up and move about when you want, get a brew, go toilet etc…
Had to have cameras on because an auditer can come on at any point and if people aren’t there, the guy / company delivering will get in the ■■■■!
Mine cost me £190 including daily upload of hours and certificate for each module.

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If you didn’t contribute to the government’s DCPC consultation, then you’ve missed your chance to say what you really think of it.

We’re possibly going end up with two DCPC Euro & UK, depending on if you drive in EU countries or not. Also possible a one of test every five years at DVSA theory test centre, instead of 35hrs.

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Sixties boy:
If you didn’t contribute to the government’s DCPC consultation, then you’ve missed your chance to say what you really think of it.

We’re possibly going end up with two DCPC Euro & UK, depending on if you drive in EU countries or not. Also possible a one of test every five years at DVSA theory test centre, instead of 35hrs.

Be fascinating to know how many actually did

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Conor:

Narc:
Have any of you done the cpc online courses? I have found some for £40 for a day with a well known driver agency
Now I could email or ring them but I have not committed to giving them my details yet,so I am asking on this forum for reviews on online
cpc first if that’s ok

Thank’s

Are you talking Driver Hire? Did one last week with them when I was on holiday. Absolutely fine, actually thought it was better than classroom based. Person who took the course actually knew what she was on about, really knew which given it was the Drivers Hours and WTD modules is a bit of a rarity nowadays. Did mine on an evening which is spread over two 3.5hr sessions on consecutive evenings which seemed much much better than spending a whole day doing it and as someone who works nights starting the training at 6pm was a whole lot better than trying to do it from 8am. Like the classroom based one you still get a 15 minute coffee break mid-module…about an hour and a half in in my case. 17 people doing it the nights I did it.

They use something called Webex for the online meeting. You get sent an email with a link to start the session, it opens up in a browser and away you go. There is an app for Android and iOS but its crap and you’re better off just doing it on a browser. If you lose connection during the session you just click on the link and start it again.

They do expect you to pay attention and to participate, there was one guy on mine clearly not and he got warnings and a private message he was about to be kicked off. Seems a bit strange at first with the participation thing if you’ve not done it before. For me I never used Zoom or any of that during lockdown and this was the first online meeting thing I’d ever experienced. There were a few characters in my session which got the participation thing going quickly though…I think how well that works depends on how willing those taking the course are to say anything.

It was good enough for me that I’m going to book with them again in a few weeks. I can see myself doing the remaining four days I’ve got to do online, it’s just better all round. No having to go travel to the training, it’s in the comfort of your own home in your favourite comfy chair instead of the crappy seats they all seem to have and for me spreading it over two evenings is way better than one long arse day.

Certificate is sent to you via email. Just checked online records and it’s been uploaded.

On holiday, doing work related items, hope you did a print out.

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robroy:

robbo99.:
Either classroom based DCPC or online DCPC, ultimately it’s impossible to polish a turd.

What baffles .me on here is a few years ago when all this sh was being proposed, it was unanimous, everybody on here was against it.

I was for it, even stated that it clearly was needed with the number of people who’d been driving for years with tachos and still didn’t understand basics like 11hrs off after a 15 doesn’t make it a full daily rest. My complaint is that they weren’t doing it properly and it wasn’t like all the certifications I’ve had to do for other jobs where there was an exam with a 80% or higher pass mark.

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Sixties boy:
If you didn’t contribute to the government’s DCPC consultation, then you’ve missed your chance to say what you really think of it.

We’re possibly going end up with two DCPC Euro & UK, depending on if you drive in EU countries or not. Also possible a one of test every five years at DVSA theory test centre, instead of 35hrs.

In an industry of excessive hours on duty, which in turn causes driver fatigue which is akin to driving under the influence of drink or drugs, in an industry where the government can extend driving hours to suit, in an industry where a big mistake can land you in prison, in an industry where we drive the biggest and heaviest vehicles that do the most damage, in an industry where we have to share the roads with uneducated muppet motorists, in an industry with limited union involvement, I find it hard to believe that any consultation will give a t055 what drivers actually think regarding the DCPC. The consultation committee, ie the turkeys won’t be voting for Christmas by scrapping the DCPC, what I guess will happen is that some kind of multiple choice “exam” will be introduced that my youngest granddaughter, (18 months old) would have a chance of getting correct by scribbling somewhere near the correct tick box on the exam paper.
Once the “exam” is passed we become professionally competent lol.

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robbo99.:

Sixties boy:
If you didn’t contribute to the government’s DCPC consultation, then you’ve missed your chance to say what you really think of it.

We’re possibly going end up with two DCPC Euro & UK, depending on if you drive in EU countries or not. Also possible a one of test every five years at DVSA theory test centre, instead of 35hrs.

In an industry of excessive hours on duty, which in turn causes driver fatigue which is akin to driving under the influence of drink or drugs, in an industry where the government can extend driving hours to suit, in an industry where a big mistake can land you in prison, in an industry where we drive the biggest and heaviest vehicles that do the most damage, in an industry where we have to share the roads with uneducated muppet motorists, in an industry with limited union involvement, I find it hard to believe that any consultation will give a t055 what drivers actually think regarding the DCPC. The consultation committee, ie the turkeys won’t be voting for Christmas by scrapping the DCPC, what I guess will happen is that some kind of multiple choice “exam” will be introduced that my youngest granddaughter, (18 months old) would have a chance of getting correct by scribbling somewhere near the correct tick box on the exam paper.
Once the “exam” is passed we become professionally competent lol.

Absolutely.

This industry is all about as I said…‘Seeing to be doing the right thing, but with no REAL substance’’ as long as it looks on the surface to the public that things are done ‘professionally’ :unamused:

A couple of examples off top of my head for starters.

1.Limited working/driving hours for general safety and drivers welfare and to prevent fatigue…

Aye up to about 80 hours a week on 44 tonnes with 9 hours rest…rest not actual sleep, in between 3 consecutive 15 hour days. :unamused:
Very safe and good for the drivers health and well being eh?

2.Wtd and POA…

All complete ■■■■■■■■ as it ain’t real.
Who tf actually works only 48 (or whatever tf it is) hour weeks in this job.
POA is same as work under a different name…it’s work.!

3.Strapping down absolutely everything with heavy fines if you dont.

No differential.clause between steel and pallets of cardboard no discretion, but rather prioritising on the fines.

4.DCPC to upgrade the industry and it’s (lack of) professionalism.

A complete cluster ■■■■., developed into prioritising it into yet another money making industry,.instead of concentrating on it’s ‘raison d’ etre’ Rodney.
The dilemma is …if they turn it into an exam pass only, the driver shortage raises it’s head, as not all drivers are academic (but at the same time more than likely bloody good proper drivers) so then we’ll have a generation of theory/graduates types behind the wheel of a truck,.who are totally ■■■■ useless at practical aspects…not necessarily the case but just go with it for the sake of the thread. :smiley:

Answer to increase professionalism…
Start at grass roots training schools,.teach them to actually drive a truck ⁷with a the aspects that go with it, practically and in terms of driver courtesy and empathy…(as things used to be believe it or not.)

CPC ? Ok,but once done reduce it to a refresher.
Devise a points system where drivers with habitual infringements and/or with an habitual bad driving record, eventuallyhave to do it all again including another driving test in extreme cases.
The scope is there to improve things, but you can sure as hell bet they will carry on with the present policy I mentioned.