I really enjoyed writing that, as you may know with my memory problems it’s very useful and constructive to workout my memory
switchlogic:
I really enjoyed writing that, as you may know with my memory problems it’s very useful and constructive to workout my memory
I remember when you posted about losing your memory.( Or I think someone else did on your behalf)
Everyone proceded to remind you that you owed practically everyone on trucknet a ton of money. (pretty sure I did as well) 
Trucknet support is awesome.
adam277:
switchlogic:
I really enjoyed writing that, as you may know with my memory problems it’s very useful and constructive to workout my memoryI remember when you posted about losing your memory.( Or I think someone else did on your behalf)
Everyone proceded to remind you that you owed practically everyone on trucknet a ton of money. (pretty sure I did as well)
Trucknet support is awesome.
Carryfast is the man with the money. I’m just a bankrupt ne’er-do-well
switchlogic:
Carryfast is the man with the money. I’m just a bankrupt ne’er-do-well
Funding early retirement at 40 ain’t cheap.Don’t know whether to send the out standing losses bill to UPS, or its subbies, or the zb TGWU, or they can all share it. 
I’ll leave you those long service and safe driving commendation letters that they gave me in my will.That will remind you about all the unfair zb that you’ve said about my career ‘choices’ and progression or lack of it.
They can bury me with the disciplinary ones then I’ll find those zb managers and union leaders in the next world and use em as evidence to get em sent where they belong, if they weren’t already sent there before on their arrival. 
Well that’s a first! You listened and didn’t come back with what was basically that daft ‘you’re not experienced enough’ nonsense you’d been trotting out. Nice to see you finally admit I might actually know what I’m talking about when I advise young drivers
Carryfast:
I’ll leave you those long service and safe driving commendation letters that they gave me in my will.That will remind you about all the unfair zb that you’ve said about my career ‘choices’ and progression or lack of it.
This though. Rarely have I ever met a man so adamant he’s not in control of his own destiny in any way at all
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
I’ll leave you those long service and safe driving commendation letters that they gave me in my will.That will remind you about all the unfair zb that you’ve said about my career ‘choices’ and progression or lack of it.This though. Rarely have I ever met a man so adamant he’s not in control of his own destiny in any way at all
1 You’ve obviously never been in the position of less than 24 hours to make up your mind between the dole queue and a long drawn out unfair/constructive dismissal claim.With the employer holding a collective union agreement against you and no benefits because you’ve made yourself unemployed.
Or do what you’re told.
2.Nope I don’t remember any consultation asking if I/we were happy with the best Euro line haul work being given to subbies while I/we had to handball 45ft trailer loads as a UK ‘feeder’ driver.
Or should those criterea be transposed providing company drivers, especially long serving and safe driving commended company drivers, first refusal re the choice of the best work and put the subbies to work as ‘feeders’ take it or leave it.
That’s ‘control of my destiny’ how.
Bearing in mind that I was paying union dues, subject to collective union agreements with the employer on my behalf, supposedly for the union to look after ‘my’ interests at that point.
Not those of the employer and its subbies and the subbies’ employees ( like yourself ).
Yes hindsight is a wonderful thing and admittedly I should have walked away and took my chances.
Re an employer who obviously treated its subbies better than its own drivers while deliberately hiding bad faith, regarding its impositions on its own employees, with insincere platitudes in that regard.
Oh look, yet another ‘you have never’ from Carry. You’re beyond comical at this stage, you’ve become a parody of yourself. So no, I’ve not lived your life funnily enough. I went out and got what I wanted from work while you sat back and expected it all to fall into your lap. That’s the difference between us, you have a sense of entitlement, I don’t.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
I’ll leave you those long service and safe driving commendation letters that they gave me in my will.That will remind you about all the unfair zb that you’ve said about my career ‘choices’ and progression or lack of it.This though. Rarely have I ever met a man so adamant he’s not in control of his own destiny in any way at all
1 You’ve obviously never been in the position of less than 24 hours to make up your mind between the dole queue and a long drawn out unfair/constructive dismissal claim.With the employer holding a collective union agreement against you and no benefits because you’ve made yourself unemployed.
Or do what you’re told.
You were an experienced HGV driver. You could of found another job the very next day if you wanted to.
As you acknowledge yourself.
Just stop being bitter about the past Carryfast. Get back on the road!!
adam277:
You were an experienced HGV driver. You could of found another job the very next day if you wanted to.
As you acknowledge yourself
When did I ‘acknowledge’ that.
Yes maybe those like Switch could have done you know having employers asking them to work for them no questions asked no answers given.
But no us mere mortals usually have to answer the question reason for leaving previous employment and name contact references and they don’t mean phone a friend or a relative or a workmate.
Oh and I’d already be turned down for numerous decent jobs on grounds of lack of ‘experience’ because years of class 1 uk night trunking still supposedly just wasn’t good enough for them.
Maybe given 20 or so different bus/coach driving jobs I might have been in with a chance if I’d have nicked Switch’s identity and applied to a UPS subby for a job.
But yeah right it’s still all my fault I might have been able to get back on agency driving a scaffold/shuttering wagon around the houses and the building site labouring which went with it again instead of just handballing a couple of artic loads every shift.That would have fixed everything paralysed from the waist down as well as chucked on the scrap heap.
Bitter not by half.
EXACTLY! The reason I’ve never had to choose between a job and the dole is my HGV licence that he also had. There are few jobs around where it’s so easy to move. I’ve started weeks at one company, someone ■■■■■■ me off and I’ve been working for another by the end of the week! And it’s not like anything I’ve done is in any way unusual or exceptional. Thousands of drivers have done the same before me and will after. My Dad always went through jobs like wildfire so I suppose I get it from him
I knew someone at Nightfreight. He worked there for 20+ years. Really hated the job with a passion. Almost everyday without fail he would talk about how he has had enough. How he is going to walk out and quit.
To my knowledge about 6 years later he is still there.
He was the most bitter, miserable person I met. But I guess for him, the idea of actually leaving the job and finding another job was just too scary. There is a certain safety in doing a crap job that is a known quanitity rather than trying new things in which you may be worse off.
But if you never gamble and try new things you never gonna move up in life.
adam277:
You were an experienced HGV driver. You could of found another job the very next day if you wanted to.
As you acknowledge yourselfCarryfast:
When did I ‘acknowledge’ that.Carryfast:
Yes hindsight is a wonderful thing and admittedly I should have walked away and took my chances.
You didnt acknowledge that you would of found a job the next day but I know you could of if you tried. 
Carryfast:
Yes maybe those like Switch could have done you know having employers asking them to work for them no questions asked no answers given.
You just keep coming out with this mindless nonsense to justify your own guilt at a wasted career don’t you. Let me sum up for you what happens since you seem to not have any experience. You ask for a job - company offers you a job. AGAIN I’ve not done anything remarkable that thousands of drivers haven’t done already. Probably over half this forum. You’re the odd one out not me. I did feel sorry for you but frankly you are far and away your own worst enemy. The person you lie to most, to frankly epic proportions, is yourself. You’ve brainwashed your own mind which I suppose is fascinating in a way.
Carryfast:
But no us mere mortals usually have to answer the question reason for leaving previous employment
It’s clear you have almost no experience in going for jobs. You’re a driver, not a doctor or accountant, no one cares why you left your last job and I don’t recall being asked that question actually. And just to reiterate- drivers like me are common. Companies know this, its a basic fact of this industry
Carryfast:
Oh and I’d already be turned down for numerous decent jobs on grounds of lack of ‘experience’ because years of class 1 uk night trunking still supposedly just wasn’t good enough for them.
Maybe given 20 or so different bus/coach driving jobs I might have been in with a chance if I’d have nicked Switch’s identity and applied to a UPS subby for a job.
Took me 4 years of applying for jobs before Nolan’s gave me a chance. Also your UPS obsession is funny, as is reducing a 40 year old international transport company, one of Ireland’s biggest, to ‘UPS subby’. You do actually know that other companies out there run trucks apart from UPS don’t you? As you seem confused. Early onset dementia maybe? As I pointed out previously they didn’t do the UPS work all that long and I did about 6 runs from Tamworth. I only mentioned it as it’s something you can relate to. I had clearly forgotten how you take one tiny fact and create a huge myth in your head to justify your insanity
adam277:
I knew someone at Nightfreight. He worked there for 20+ years. Really hated the job with a passion. Almost everyday without fail he would talk about how he has had enough. How he is going to walk out and quit.
To my knowledge about 6 years later he is still there.He was the most bitter, miserable person I met. But I guess for him, the idea of actually leaving the job and finding another job was just too scary. There is a certain safety in doing a crap job that is a known quanitity rather than trying new things in which you may be worse off.
But if you never gamble and try new things you never gonna move up in life.adam277:
You were an experienced HGV driver. You could of found another job the very next day if you wanted to.
As you acknowledge yourselfCarryfast:
When did I ‘acknowledge’ that.Carryfast:
Yes hindsight is a wonderful thing and admittedly I should have walked away and took my chances.You didnt acknowledge that you would of found a job the next day but I know you could of if you tried.
For the avoidance of any doubt I never at any point ‘hated’ my job on night trunking.Also it was never a case that I didn’t want or try to make the move to where I wanted/needed to be ( International work ) during my time with Carryfast/UPS.
However you seem to have missed the point that idea was thwarted at every point by the arbitrary face fits and career progression policies which infest the industry.
Varying from actually being told that I’d ‘got the job’ with one employer and then having that offer withdrawn and being told UK work only take it or leave it.After numerous times being shown the door before that on grounds of no ‘international experience’.
To the type of zb which has been shown here regarding my own employers policies regarding its own employees in that regard.
The situation described, regarding how I came to be put to work handballing trailers was a side show to all that which happened very quickly.Almost overnight after a union ‘agreement’ that I hadn’t been consulted on let alone balloted on although there had been rumours about it which were that unbelievable that I/we laughed them off as a joke.
It wasn’t something which took the time to look for other jobs.
One night you’re watching tele during the sort at the hub next night you’re told to get in your trailer and tip and load it.In my case followed by the reply to zb off and do one.That’s how I ended up on a disciplinary which I took to the limit and should have gone beyond.
While ironically after all that I was then at least put on a proper UK line haul job commensurate with my job title.
Too late for my back unfortunately.
Hope that helps.
If I remember rightly I think Nightfreight was set up by some former Carryfast managers after the takeover ?.If I’ve got it right they had a depot in Chessington and I went there to see if there were any trunking jobs being much nearer to me than Feltham.
Something seemed a bit ‘off’ with UPS for me personally from the start and from when I’d decided against making any move to Seabourne/UPS at Barking previously.I preferred working for Carryfast.My gut feeling was eventually proven correct.
Although as I’ve said it all could have been so different with the advantage that the type of drawbar outfit that I eventually ended up driving at the end could have hauled more than Switch’s step frame artic.Weird. 
Carryfast:
Although as I’ve said it all could have been so different with the advantage that the type of drawbar outfit that I eventually ended up driving at the end could have hauled more than Switch’s step frame artic.Weird.
Ah, well unlike you I don’t need a ■■■■■ extension. You’d have thought it would have dawned on you by now that smaller trailers mean less work…
switchlogic:
Oh look, yet another ‘you have never’ from Carry. You’re beyond comical at this stage, you’ve become a parody of yourself. So no, I’ve not lived your life funnily enough. I went out and got what I wanted from work while you sat back and expected it all to fall into your lap. That’s the difference between us, you have a sense of entitlement, I don’t.
Replacement Glass Backs in Transit
Da good ole days. Before Ceo of UPS switchlogic ruined a young fellars life.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
Although as I’ve said it all could have been so different with the advantage that the type of drawbar outfit that I eventually ended up driving at the end could have hauled more than Switch’s step frame artic.Weird.Ah, well unlike you I don’t need a ■■■■■ extension. You’d have thought it would have dawned on you by now that smaller trailers mean less work…
What ‘work’ would that be other than swapping a box and a trailer between runs.The question is the business case of then sending out a subby with a lesser capacity artic instead.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
Although as I’ve said it all could have been so different with the advantage that the type of drawbar outfit that I eventually ended up driving at the end could have hauled more than Switch’s step frame artic.Weird.Ah, well unlike you I don’t need a ■■■■■ extension. You’d have thought it would have dawned on you by now that smaller trailers mean less work…
What ‘work’ would that be other than swapping a box and a trailer between runs.The question is the business case of then sending out a subby with a lesser capacity artic instead.
Oh I dunno, maybe the work you won’t stop droning on about that supposedly did your back in. Maybe. Maybe that
Carryfast:
The question is the business case of then sending out a subby with a lesser capacity artic instead.
Ah your inexperience is showing here. They were rarely full. They simply sent the trailer needed, some days 13.6, others 10 etc. UPS trucks anyway, the pic I sent pulling a UPS trailer was rare, we normally pulled our own. International trunks were usually one way for us and we’d load fridge loads back