One for the ADR experts

i loaded last week in the total refinery near rouen for madrid with varying types of engine oil in all sorts of sizes from 1000litre IBC’s to 5litre bottles in boxes but when i asked they said was not ADR.
how come i can load 20 tons of oil products not ADR but a tanker with oil on is ADR?
answers much appreciated as we have new work out of there for regular runs to madrid

YOU MIGHT NEED…

I’M SURE HE WILL BE ALONG SOON :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Or you can click the picture of the ADR Truck to send him a PM (Private Message) :bulb:

and before anybody asks none of the boxes had any flammable stickers on but it was engine oil :confused:

Engine Oil is not classified for ADR even if it is in a road tanker

If you don’t believe me, ask Total

thanks wheelnut :smiley:
didn’t realise oil wasn’t for adr seems a bit daft but hey- ho :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses:

welshboyinspain:
i loaded last week in the total refinery near rouen for madrid with varying types of engine oil in all sorts of sizes from 1000litre IBC’s to 5litre bottles in boxes but when i asked they said was not ADR.
how come i can load 20 tons of oil products not ADR but a tanker with oil on is ADR?
answers much appreciated as we have new work out of there for regular runs to madrid

Hi welshboyinspain, That sounds like you were carrying lube-oil, so it’s certainly not ADR, and as Wheel Nut said, it doesn’t matter whether it’s in packages or a tanker, it’s still not counted as dangerous goods. :grimacing:

It might seem strange to believe, but since lube-oil isn’t counted as dangerous goods, you can drive a tanker full of it without an ADR licence. Please be reassured that if the consignor tells you that it’s not dangerous, then you can take his word for it. :wink:

thanks dave i understood what they were telling me its just that i couldn’t believe that oil was non hazardous!!

If you were coming in this direction and you declared the load to a ferry operator, they may give you some marine pollutant stickers, it isn’t worth arguing about it, stick them on and go and enjoy a pint.

Sometimes the IMDG regs are a little zealous. The times I have heard someone complaining that another driver has ripped his labels off on the ferry before driving off the boat :smiley:

Wheel Nut:
If you were coming in this direction and you declared the load to a ferry operator, they may give you some marine pollutant stickers, it isn’t worth arguing about it, stick them on and go and enjoy a pint.

Sometimes the IMDG regs are a little zealous. The times I have heard someone complaining that another driver has ripped his labels off on the ferry before driving off the boat :smiley:

Hear hear, Wheel Nut, IMDG is usually far stricter than ADR, especially with regard to documentation and vehicle markings.
However, the placards that the maritime law requires aren’t usually required to be displayed once the vehicle is back on dry land.

Over zealous?? IMHO not really, they’re just obeying their Regs, hence it looks and seems a bit over-the-top to us vehicle drivers. :grimacing:

As I’ve often said, a vehicle driver has very little to do with IMDG, because it’s more for the ferry crew to worry about. :wink:

welshboyinspain:
i loaded last week in the total refinery near rouen for madrid with varying types of engine oil in all sorts of sizes from 1000litre IBC’s to 5litre bottles in boxes but when i asked they said was not ADR.
how come i can load 20 tons of oil products not ADR but a tanker with oil on is ADR?
answers much appreciated as we have new work out of there for regular runs to madrid

Well,The Class of Engine Oil needs a Container of more than 1000 Liter to go over the Limit.
But, :grimacing:
you need a Paper,telling your “Freight is not ADR on the Road”,Dated,Signed,Name of Goods,Quantity,Weight/Liter,Class,UN Number,and Company Details on it

Lovelyperson:
Well,The Class of Engine Oil needs a Container of more than 1000 Liter to go over the Limit.
But, :grimacing:

Hi Lovelyperson, The oil can be in any size container you like, because it isn’t conted as dangerous goods.
The 1,000ltr limit you suggested relates to dangerous goods of Transport Category 3 carried in packages, whereas the original question also mentioned a tanker. :wink:
Either way up, ADR does not apply to it, because the substance ISN’T dangerous. :grimacing:

Lovelyperson:
you need a Paper,telling your “Freight is not ADR on the Road”,Dated,Signed,Name of Goods,Quantity,Weight/Liter,Class,UN Number,and Company Details on it

You’re correct with this part though. :smiley:

The consignor must write on the delivery document (or CMR): “Not goods of UN Class 3.”