Older drivers

dieseldog999:
i dont thnk a lot of oldies have much of a pension plan…tramping…then its trunking,or local work,then its weekend shunting etc,then they finally fail their mot and pull the pin…6 months later they peg it,cos it was only routine that kept them going…isnt that about the norm for soon to be expired drivers??

Wifey only said to me today, if I had joined my firms pension plan offer when I started on here after retiring at 60, but I thought I shan’t be doing it long enough to be worthwhile.
Now after being here for FOURTEEN YEARS, it’s definitely too late now!

Socketset- I didn’t really use that traffic cone as a loudspeaker.

I stuck it on his head and then spun him round a few times. He wandered off looking like that wizard out of Harry Potter :laughing:

the maoster:
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Don’t laugh, he is right, it’s common knowledge that if you are approaching a green light the chances are high that it will change to red before you get to it.

Ok…my turn now :smiley: I think eagerbeaver started this thread as a joke/wind up, but there are some valid points to be made. I myself are under strict medical guidelines from DVLA, my licence is renewed every year, and i have to have blood tests, urine tests, cholestrol and blood levels checked, oh, and a treadmill test every 3 yrs ( it use to be 2 yrs ). I am a very fit 70 year old still driving abroad, across europe and down as far as Turkey
( couldnt stand that uk ■■■■ of 15 hour days with only a 9 off ) well i used to, but lost the job cos i wont do as i am told…anyway…i agree with some that a medical should be stringent, and more often for those who have not yet had a medical, or medical issues ( these are the most vulnerable, and the most dangerous drivers ) as Rob said, big fat drivers out of breath going up a flight of stairs, or others who cant undo a taut…seen them many times…those who insist on the peruvial fry--up every morning, and wear the remains on their fat guts and vests.
Some moaned about why they still work in old age…i can only speak for myself, I LOVE IT…always have done, i prefer the old days, the modern ones are too restrictive…we have trouble breathing sometimes cos the planners are under stress, so they push us ( try to ) to the limits, tight schedules or too many deliveries thats almost impossible to complete ( not for me, i take them back ) but you know what i mean.
Heres the crunch bit, its also rewarding financially…i used to dream of retirement, wanted to retire early, get in my motorhome and dissapear for weeks on end…the beauty of old age is…theres normally enough time to do what you want but, as the saying goes: Too much time…not enough money!..or Too much money…not enough time ` so basically i never planned for my enjoyment as much as i would have liked, and many of you are gonna have a big shock when you eventually get to retire…Ask yourself this question : Can I afford to live on £105 per week ? do your sums …look at the bills… Gas , Electric, Phones, Tv, Internet, tv licence, Council tax, then look at the food bills + cigarettes, drinks, insurances for the appliances, treats for the grand kids, birthdays for your own kids…maybe a meal out for you and the missus, and i havnt even touched on holidays yet…but you get my drift, that £105 is the basic state pension providing you have paid enough into the system ( n.i. or stamps ) I was fortunate in that i have 2 private pensions that see me living reasonably well…but also fortunate in the fact my wife earned over £40 grand a year, now also retired but working 3/4 days a week…our mortgage is paid, and we have a nice home abroad…i still have to think about flights though, and the cost. If you work over retirement age, HMRC will add your pension to your earnings, then tax the lot…there is no reductions in council tax if you or your partner work, no free tv licence till your 75…and winter fuel allowance is cut in half if you are both retired…yes…i was receiving £200 cos i retired first…when my wife retired…they took £100, and gave it to her …its a household payment, not an individual one…retire the old codgers…not on your nelly…whyb let all our experience be lost…its us who should be teaching the CPC using that knowledge…instead of the rubbish being spouted by those who have never set foot in a truck, merely been trained on how to present it, to people like myself, who knows practically everything there is to know about this industry…yes 50 years and proud of it.good luck in your own retirement, and good luck with that pension pot…if there is still one available.

Well said Truckyboy. :wink:

I’ve done a bit myself, but this guy has forgotten more than I will know, and is the type of driver who showed me the job.

These guys can teach you a lot if you have the sense to listen.

Send you my a/c no TB for the backhander. :laughing:

Spot on truckyboy.The only difference between you and me is that I didn’t like the job any more;you also chose Bulgaria whereas I chose Spain.

Beaver…ive done more miles in reverse than what you will ever do going forward,now be a good little boy and wind your neck in,when the ink on your licence dries you might be able to back up comments like you have posted here

" more miles in reverse " . Come on mate, you can do better than that. Put yer pipe down and put some effort in. :laughing:

eagerbeaver:
" more miles in reverse " . Come on mate, you can do better than that. Put yer pipe down and put some effort in. :laughing:

The rants have gone seriously down hill recently, havent seen one for a while with much more than a 5/10, much more swearing and abuse needed dont you think… :grimacing:

Or as Pat Seal once said to a young first tripper in Turkey who was being a bit ‘‘jack the lad’’ because he’d got that far,‘‘I’ve got a tin of baked beans in the trailer box that’s done more kms than you’’.He Went very quiet.

Like most drivers, I have worked most of my life either for companies without a pension provision, or worked only briefly at companies that did have one. My latest ‘predictions’ give me a total estimated retirement income of less than £2000 per year…
So I have long reconciled myself that I’ll be working well past my ‘retirement’ age. At least as long as I am medically allowed. After that I’ll just have to find a dodgy tipper operator I guess.

truckyboy:
Ok…my turn now :smiley: I think eagerbeaver started this thread as a joke/wind up, but there are some valid points to be made. I myself are under strict medical guidelines from DVLA, my licence is renewed every year, and i have to have blood tests, urine tests, cholestrol and blood levels checked, oh, and a treadmill test every 3 yrs ( it use to be 2 yrs ). I am a very fit 70 year old still driving abroad, across europe and down as far as Turkey
( couldnt stand that uk [zb] of 15 hour days with only a 9 off ) well i used to, but lost the job cos i wont do as i am told…anyway…i agree with some that a medical should be stringent, and more often for those who have not yet had a medical, or medical issues ( these are the most vulnerable, and the most dangerous drivers ) as Rob said, big fat drivers out of breath going up a flight of stairs, or others who cant undo a taut…seen them many times…those who insist on the peruvial fry--up every morning, and wear the remains on their fat guts and vests.
Some moaned about why they still work in old age…i can only speak for myself, I LOVE IT…always have done, i prefer the old days, the modern ones are too restrictive…we have trouble breathing sometimes cos the planners are under stress, so they push us ( try to ) to the limits, tight schedules or too many deliveries thats almost impossible to complete ( not for me, i take them back ) but you know what i mean.
Heres the crunch bit, its also rewarding financially…i used to dream of retirement, wanted to retire early, get in my motorhome and dissapear for weeks on end…the beauty of old age is…theres normally enough time to do what you want but, as the saying goes: Too much time…not enough money!..or Too much money…not enough time ` so basically i never planned for my enjoyment as much as i would have liked, and many of you are gonna have a big shock when you eventually get to retire…Ask yourself this question : Can I afford to live on £105 per week ? do your sums …look at the bills… Gas , Electric, Phones, Tv, Internet, tv licence, Council tax, then look at the food bills + cigarettes, drinks, insurances for the appliances, treats for the grand kids, birthdays for your own kids…maybe a meal out for you and the missus, and i havnt even touched on holidays yet…but you get my drift, that £105 is the basic state pension providing you have paid enough into the system ( n.i. or stamps ) I was fortunate in that i have 2 private pensions that see me living reasonably well…but also fortunate in the fact my wife earned over £40 grand a year, now also retired but working 3/4 days a week…our mortgage is paid, and we have a nice home abroad…i still have to think about flights though, and the cost. If you work over retirement age, HMRC will add your pension to your earnings, then tax the lot…there is no reductions in council tax if you or your partner work, no free tv licence till your 75…and winter fuel allowance is cut in half if you are both retired…yes…i was receiving £200 cos i retired first…when my wife retired…they took £100, and gave it to her …its a household payment, not an individual one…retire the old codgers…not on your nelly…whyb let all our experience be lost…its us who should be teaching the CPC using that knowledge…instead of the rubbish being spouted by those who have never set foot in a truck, merely been trained on how to present it, to people like myself, who knows practically everything there is to know about this industry…yes 50 years and proud of it.good luck in your own retirement, and good luck with that pension pot…if there is still one available.

Can I have this one as my 2nd man! :stuck_out_tongue:

Very sensible post…

rangechange59:
Beaver…ive done more miles in reverse than what you will ever do going forward,now be a good little boy and wind your neck in,when the ink on your licence dries you might be able to back up comments like you have posted here

I’d have thought you’d have got the hang of reversing by now :stuck_out_tongue:

hutpik:
Or as Pat Seal once said to a young first tripper in Turkey who was being a bit ‘‘jack the lad’’ because he’d got that far,‘‘I’ve got a tin of baked beans in the trailer box that’s done more kms than you’’.He Went very quiet.

It was also “Alleged” to have been said by Alan “Pop” Warner.

As i was with Pat when he said it ,i have no reason to doubt him,i don’t say he was the first[or last]as cutting comments were said all the time.

hutpik:
As i was with Pat when he said it ,i have no reason to doubt him,i don’t say he was the first[or last]as cutting comments were said all the time.

It must be said that both had a cutting sense of humour!

Pssst.Robroy…( typed in a whispering voice) just checked my online bank…no money as yet !! but will check everyday. :wink: :wink:

I’ve learned the hard way to avoid older or long serving drivers. They always get you when in a rush by holding your door open and starting to recollect some bygone era or occurance that you really aren’t interested in.
Roping and sheeting, twin splitter wotsits, two strokes, ERF this, Albion that, waffle waffle, automatic gearboxes are crap, overnighting in digs and having your boots nicked. :unamused:
NOT ■■■■■■■ INTERESTED!! :imp:

More Ale:
I’ve learned the hard way to avoid older or long serving drivers. They always get you when in a rush by holding your door open and starting to recollect some bygone era or occurance that you really aren’t interested in.
Roping and sheeting, twin splitter wotsits, two strokes, ERF this, Albion that, waffle waffle, automatic gearboxes are crap, overnighting in digs and having your boots nicked. :unamused:
NOT [zb] INTERESTED!! :imp:

You can learn a heck of a lot by listening to folk who were possibly doing the job while you were still ■■■■■■■■ yellow. One day (assuming that you stick the job and survive the few good slappings that will possibly come your way with that attitude! :wink: ) you too will be an older and hopefully wiser driver and only too willing to pass on your extensive knowledge to young pups just starting out in the trade. Yes, you will probably bore the pants off of them as well but so much will sink in and stay with them. That’s how I and many others learned, we all think we know it all but in reality you learn each and every day.

Pete.

windrush:

More Ale:
I’ve learned the hard way to avoid older or long serving drivers. They always get you when in a rush by holding your door open and starting to recollect some bygone era or occurance that you really aren’t interested in.
Roping and sheeting, twin splitter wotsits, two strokes, ERF this, Albion that, waffle waffle, automatic gearboxes are crap, overnighting in digs and having your boots nicked. :unamused:
NOT [zb] INTERESTED!! :imp:

You can learn a heck of a lot by listening to folk who were possibly doing the job while you were still ■■■■■■■■ yellow. One day (assuming that you stick the job and survive the few good slappings that will possibly come your way with that attitude! :wink: ) you too will be an older and hopefully wiser driver and only too willing to pass on your extensive knowledge to young pups just starting out in the trade. Yes, you will probably bore the pants off of them as well but so much will sink in and stay with them. That’s how I and many others learned, we all think we know it all but in reality you learn each and every day.

Pete.

I only give advice when asked for it by a new driver, or if I see him struggling with something, and I will give it gladly and willinglly as that is how I learned the job myself.
Where as the young smart arsed newbie (or even the one with a couple of years or so) who gives off the air of, ‘I know it all me, I don’t need telling’ and has an appalling ■■■■ attitude ( :bulb: :wink: no names. ) I just crack on ignore him and laugh when he ■■■■■ up…(as he always does eventually) .some are beyond help.

Love the ■■■■■■■■ yellow bit btw :laughing: , I’m gonna use that one myself, the ‘more miles in reverse’ one is getting a bit tired now. :smiley: