Old Hull Haulage companys

hi wake 6789 you used to work for wakeys did u remember me dad cec rose he was there years with me uncle
billy johnson one of the best jobs in hull i was told. a few drivers i remember
johnny skinner
frank bramley
■■■■■ fred warcup
arthur walker
eddie sproat
danny mac
derek waudby
norman olson
jock murray
les marrison
little harry wilki shunter.
johnny hutch
harry waudby and many more

is that the same Frank Bramley who was the TM at Panalpina?

Glenn R:
The people I remember are (bear in mind the age thing is kicking in though!): -
The late Bill Chapman
Eric Shields
Mick Harlington (Transport manager)
Jim O Keefe (Transport manager, came from Springfield Haulage)
■■■■ Robinson (he went to Freeman’s at Brough)
Yogi Pearce - lived in Gilberdyke
the late Maurice Featherstone - lived in Gilberdyke
Charlie Cook - lived in Hawthorn Ave - came from Springfield Haulage
Ken Young - another resident of Gilberdyke
Eric Holland - came from MAT, went to Howdendyke, lived in Hessle
Colin ? - lived in Hessle
John ? - drove 6 wheeler Dodge
Harold Kind - drove 4 wheeler Dodge
Dave Beales - ended up driving one of the S40 Fodens
Ray Fenton - Lived around Newland Ave area - ended up going on his own but can’t remember what truck he had

This is really sad but I can remember some of the wagons: -
4901 WF - Albion tractor unit
6477 WF - Workshops Land Rover
JFU 296C - Leyland Badger tractor unit
FBT 438D - Dodge - Perkins 6 354
FBT 439D - as above
■■? - Dodge / ■■■■■■■ V8 tractor unit
JWF? 277E - 6 wheeler rigid Dodge - ■■■■■■■ V8
■■?G - Commer TS3 tractor unit
■■?H - 4 wheeler rigid Dodge - 6 354 perkins
VAT 823?H - Dennis Maxim / Perkins V8 - other Hull Dennis tractor units belonged to Spear Warehousing & Wake Bros
RBT 648G - S39 Foden - Gardner
YRH 723K - S40 Foden - ■■■■■■■
■■? ■■?J - S40 Foden - ■■■■■■■
GAT 383N - MAN tractor unit3

Ey up Rammo.

That’s me at the wheel of that MAN in the Lord Mayor’s Parade.

I’m also on the left in the group photo in front of the Dodge 6-354 and you’ve omitted to mention Vic standing next to you at the side of the Landy. Vic was a character who certainly liked a drink. Bill Chapman thought he’d cracked it when he’d only send him out for parts after 3.00pm, completely forgetting that Saltend Club was open all day. You also missed Steve Bland, who drove my old Dodge after I graduated to the S40 Foden.

Those bloody Fodens were something else. Bill Chapman was a qualified engineer (ex Blackburn IIRC) and he engineered folding bunks for each of them. Which was fine up to a point but with no night heaters it made for some pretty cold nights at times. I’ve forgotten how often I’ve woken in the morning and had to scrape ice off the inside of the windscreen. On mine the power clutch had been disabled, so my left leg was twice the size of my right, they also had no power steering either. Vacuum wipers and washers meant you had to take your foot off the pedal to get the wipers to work and as for the washers, it was easier to keep a Fairy Lioquid bottle full of water and stick your arm out of the window. But the piece de resistance on those beasts was the Foden Epicyclic Gearbox - such a beast that you had to go to RTITB Training in Anlaby for a day to learn how to drive it. It had a 4-speed ‘H’ pattern on the floor with a three speed splitter handle to the right of the steering wheel. It was like playing a bloody church organ going down the road.

Ken Young got the first MAN 16-232 (GAT 383N) followed by Eric Holland (LAT 492P) and Maurice Featherstone (LAT 495P). When Maurice left to work in a factory, I got his MAN. Some people used to complain about the ZF 12 speed column shift on the MANs but anyone who’d drive the Fodens could work them like a dream.

It was a sad day for all of us when Bill got killed. He did something that he’d sack any fitter for doing - climbed under a trailer that was still attached to the prime mover with the engine running. I saw what happened and was the first to Bill to try and give mouth-to-mouth but it was a waste of time. As the trailing axle rolled him over, it detached his ribs from his sternum and they punctured his lungs, heart and liver. The company was never the same after that day.

It wasn’t too many years until it all went belly-up. Bill Malcomson tried to keep it going on behalf of Jim Cutting (Cutting & Co. Shipping Agents) but it wasn’t to be. Mick went to work for Malcy and I think Ken & Chalie Farley (Cooke), had a few weeks with him but soon found something else. I just got th hell away from it and swore I’d never drive a truck for a living again. By the time it went bust the tacho had come in and that stopped the money that could be earned on computed hours and all the fun had gone out of the job.

Hope that helps fill in a few more blanks mate

Bealesy

del949:
hi wake 6789 you used to work for wakeys did u remember me dad cec rose he was there years with me uncle
billy johnson one of the best jobs in hull i was told. a few drivers i remember
johnny skinner
frank bramley
■■■■■ fred warcup
arthur walker
eddie sproat
danny mac
derek waudby
norman olson
jock murray
les marrison
little harry wilki shunter.
johnny hutch
harry waudby and many more

is that the same Frank Bramley who was the TM at Panalpina?

yes it was

codhead99:

Glenn R:
The people I remember are (bear in mind the age thing is kicking in though!): -
The late Bill Chapman
Eric Shields
Mick Harlington (Transport manager) - had a spell at Malcys, his son got the leeming lodge pub on the A1 as a truckstop
Jim O Keefe (Transport manager, came from Springfield Haulage)
■■■■ Robinson (he went to Freeman’s at Brough) Jeff sold out to Isotank
Yogi Pearce - lived in Gilberdyke - drove for Alan Carter for many years
the late Maurice Featherstone - lived in Gilberdyke
Charlie Cook - lived in Hawthorn Ave - came from Springfield Haulage - later of Evans/Brooksbank fame.
Ken Young - another resident of Gilberdyke. Went to United Carriers to retire
Eric Holland - came from MAT, went to Howdendyke, lived in Hessle. Now lives in Gilberdyke
Colin ? - lived in Hessle
John ? - drove 6 wheeler Dodge
Harold Kind - drove 4 wheeler Dodge
Dave Beales - ended up driving one of the S40 Fodens
Ray Fenton - Lived around Newland Ave area - ended up going on his own but can’t remember what truck he had

This is really sad but I can remember some of the wagons: -
4901 WF - Albion tractor unit
6477 WF - Workshops Land Rover
JFU 296C - Leyland Badger tractor unit
FBT 438D - Dodge - Perkins 6 354
FBT 439D - as above
■■? - Dodge / ■■■■■■■ V8 tractor unit
JWF? 277E - 6 wheeler rigid Dodge - ■■■■■■■ V8
■■?G - Commer TS3 tractor unit
■■?H - 4 wheeler rigid Dodge - 6 354 perkins
VAT 823?H - Dennis Maxim / Perkins V8 - other Hull Dennis tractor units belonged to Spear Warehousing & Wake Bros
RBT 648G - S39 Foden - Gardner
YRH 723K - S40 Foden - ■■■■■■■
■■? ■■?J - S40 Foden - ■■■■■■■
GAT 383N - MAN tractor unit3

Ey up Rammo.

That’s me at the wheel of that MAN in the Lord Mayor’s Parade.

I’m also on the left in the group photo in front of the Dodge 6-354 and you’ve omitted to mention Vic standing next to you at the side of the Landy. Vic was a character who certainly liked a drink. Bill Chapman thought he’d cracked it when he’d only send him out for parts after 3.00pm, completely forgetting that Saltend Club was open all day. You also missed Steve Bland, who drove my old Dodge after I graduated to the S40 Foden.

Those bloody Fodens were something else. Bill Chapman was a qualified engineer (ex Blackburn IIRC) and he engineered folding bunks for each of them. Which was fine up to a point but with no night heaters it made for some pretty cold nights at times. I’ve forgotten how often I’ve woken in the morning and had to scrape ice off the inside of the windscreen. On mine the power clutch had been disabled, so my left leg was twice the size of my right, they also had no power steering either. Vacuum wipers and washers meant you had to take your foot off the pedal to get the wipers to work and as for the washers, it was easier to keep a Fairy Lioquid bottle full of water and stick your arm out of the window. But the piece de resistance on those beasts was the Foden Epicyclic Gearbox - such a beast that you had to go to RTITB Training in Anlaby for a day to learn how to drive it. It had a 4-speed ‘H’ pattern on the floor with a three speed splitter handle to the right of the steering wheel. It was like playing a bloody church organ going down the road.

Ken Young got the first MAN 16-232 (GAT 383N) followed by Eric Holland (LAT 492P) and Maurice Featherstone (LAT 495P). When Maurice left to work in a factory, I got his MAN. Some people used to complain about the ZF 12 speed column shift on the MANs but anyone who’d drive the Fodens could work them like a dream.

It was a sad day for all of us when Bill got killed. He did something that he’d sack any fitter for doing - climbed under a trailer that was still attached to the prime mover with the engine running. I saw what happened and was the first to Bill to try and give mouth-to-mouth but it was a waste of time. As the trailing axle rolled him over, it detached his ribs from his sternum and they punctured his lungs, heart and liver. The company was never the same after that day.

It wasn’t too many years until it all went belly-up. Bill Malcomson tried to keep it going on behalf of Jim Cutting (Cutting & Co. Shipping Agents) but it wasn’t to be. Mick went to work for Malcy and I think Ken & Chalie Farley (Cooke), had a few weeks with him but soon found something else. I just got th hell away from it and swore I’d never drive a truck for a living again. By the time it went bust the tacho had come in and that stopped the money that could be earned on computed hours and all the fun had gone out of the job.

Hope that helps fill in a few more blanks mate

Bealesy

John-truckersinfo:
HI all,
How the memorys have come flooding back seeing all those pics and company names from Hull.
But one not named was the Dutch company GELDERS who had a depot in Dairycoates Hessle road. My father drove for them when they started in Hull in the 70’s right through to the 90’s by this time they had morphed to become IPEC and then into the mighty TNT and he and the rest of the family where all down in Northampton. He then went back to Hull and drove for Willow transport my cousins outfit.
I followed my father and worked for a subbie called Ron Pattison from Knottingley on a Bedford TK out of Gelders before moving down to Northants and joining Gelders employment and spending many a trip poodling around Euroland.

By the way Graham wells of “Wells Cargo” (way back in thread) was an old pal old mine and now is a driving instructor.
Don’t know if any of you were on the net in the late 90’s when I set up and ran a site called truckersinfo.co.uk (don’t try it took it offline years ago.)
All the best

there was a Pattison I worked with from Gowdall, he was a very good pub pianist and did the local clubs, he also had a couple of lorries, probably Ron’s son

Spud1960:

Chris Webb:
I remember John Foremans when they were running out of BP at Saltend,F86s I think and I was in an AEC MK3 or a MK5 if you were lucky. :laughing:
I worked for A.E.Evans Sheffield depot and we had a Hull based driver called Kenny Vint working out of BP and Amoco at Easington North Sea Gas terminals.He had an accident somewhere near Patrington,the Mandator and 6000 galls of gas condensate overturned,caught fire,killing Ken.I’d left Evans then but I think it was around 1979/80 when this happened.An old pal of mine,ex Evans,sent me these photos of the AEC and trailer when it was in Foremans’ yard.






It was on this bend where the wagon went over.That’s my mates’ Buffalo in the lay-by and the wagon finished up in that field.

Kenny drove for another company out of Saltend before he worked for Evans,maybe Harold Wood,I’m not sure.He was a great bloke and was sadly missed by the lads that knew him.I do recall he was ex Royal Navy or Merchant Navy as he used to take the p*** out of me,being ex RAF :slight_smile: .

After this incident BP built a pipeline

Ken was a real character, his Eldest son Paul was my best mate at school. Paul went into the industry too and ended as a driver-trainer for Walon in Yeovil, although he lived in Banbury. IIRC Ken used to have a tattoo of a Canadian timberwolf on his back. He used to bring home DCL gin and Paul would often bring some to school, the lessons after morning playtime were quite often a blur

Cruella1965:
Just had a quick word with my dad, John :grimacing: Green and he said the reg of his F88 was BWF 871K. I mentioned about Dusty Miller and he remembered that Dusty took the 88 and avoided going back to the yard for about 5 weeks as the 86 he drove didn’t have a bed and the 88 did. I remember going out in that and having to sit on the engine cover with my brother and getting a bit warm. There were little black knobbly bits on it and I used to try to pick them off lol. I also remember someone getting into dad’s cab in the yard to move it and I was terrified. Never trusted anyone but my dad. For those who may remember him he also worked for United Carriers, Hewson’s, MAT and Brian Yeardley before going for an easy life doing nights at Suttons/Mckelvie/Beck & Politzer/TDG and any other interested at the time parties at ICI. He retired nearly 2 years ago. Brian I don’t know if you remember me but we met a few times. The first time was in Mayphil car park. Sounds wrong doesn’t it!!! You were working for Rix and had reversed up to the trees behind the houses. I was with my ex-husband who you knew, Robin Booth. Think he worked for Lewis Chantry at the time. He’s had quite a few jobs so can’t remember, may have been Harbro, Isotank, ITS, Rob Hatfield. Is there enough space here to mention em all? He’s a fat gobby bloke from Hull and still aint gone back there! Anyway we came to Asselby one day for some reason and we stopped to talk to you cos you were loitering in your garden. Many years ago lol. And in town. You drivers/ex drivers just love your retail therapy on a weekend don’t you? I asked dad if he remembers you and he’s not sure. Also I remember Rex Krebs working at Hewson’s. I know his son and daughter. Also Taffy Pennington’s son Dean is a shunter for -dare I mention them :bulb: -Stobart. Well the pay isn’t bad even if the attitude there is. My husband is one of the trampers recently made redundant. Best thing that could happen. He got a better job!

Wheel Nut:

brylboy:
I first met Alan Malc on my way backfrom the Smoke running empty i think about 1962 whils i was employed by Len Dunlin
Alan was broken down on the A 1 near or just north of Huntingdon… He was half loaded cant recall what with and i cant recall his truck but it belonged to John KAY from Hull… so being the kind hearted fellow that i am we found a ramp and loaded Alans Motor on to the back of mine chained it on and delivered it to Kays Yard the following morning
i thought i had doe my good deed and was expecting a thank you in the shape of at least a couple o quid
all i got was thank you :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:
One lives and learns doesent one

Both Bill and Alan worked for JB Kay and then started up with one motor from his mums house at Newland near Eastrington. I used to spend all my spare time up at the new yard when they had got quite succesful. Alan went in the office on KG Dock. Bill ran the yard and Barry drove for them. There is another brother called Brian but he didn’t get involved. Bill married one of the Bayrams from North Newbald and the transport mafia was born :laughing:

We were supposed to be talking all about this at your house with Rose bringing me cups of tea. I just haven’t got my arse into gear yet. Sorry. :blush:

It is quite sad but I can still remember some of the registration numbers and drivers.

OBT 58G - F86 Alan Cox (Shunter)
TWF 987H - F86 Terry Kitching
YWF 847K - 240 F88 Barry Malcolmson
FWF 606L - 290 F88 Stuart Appleton
HBT 424L - DAF 2600 Mick Pinder
BWF 871K - John Green
Daf 2200 Drawbar
Dodge 500
Leyland Mastiff
Alf Stein F88
Bud (Stuart) Young F86 (Ken Youngs Son)
Ernie Hodgson from Goole F86 ex Aden
Dusty Miller F88
Frank Harper F86
Keith Watson - Watto Guy Big J six wheel tipper
Weasel
Alan Carter
Graham Mann Leyland Super Comet

Wheel Nut:

del949:
hi wake 6789 you used to work for wakeys did u remember me dad cec rose he was there years with me uncle
billy johnson one of the best jobs in hull i was told. a few drivers i remember
johnny skinner
frank bramley
■■■■■ fred warcup
arthur walker
eddie sproat
danny mac
derek waudby
norman olson
jock murray
les marrison
little harry wilki shunter.
johnny hutch
harry waudby and many more

is that the same Frank Bramley who was the TM at Panalpina?

yes it was

Hi Wheelnut
Franks’ two lads Steve & Phil drove for him at Panalpina,

They each had Ford Transcons and could make the b**gers fly!
I was Plating for Tolemans from KG5 in Hull at the time and got many a lift back with those two!
Also I remember Jimmy Miller well, he worked with my dad for awhile
last saw him at my dad’s mate Big Herbert Hemsworths funeral a few years ago
I’ve got a picture of Jim loading a Readers motor down Humber street years ago, will try to post it if its not already on here.

the two TC’s that the Bramley bros had were a short wheelbase 350 ■■■■■■■ and a long wheelbase 290 ■■■■■■■■
The 350 (TKH 477R) was transferred to Bradford (Panalpina Northern Ltd) where I had it for about 4 years , when it was replaced by another ex Hull unit, Merc 1626 JAT 467 V, finally Bradford bought a new unit for me, a Merc powerliner 1927 which I had until the company went pop!
The TC could certainly go, I had it off the top of the tacho at 85 and it still had revs left,( still got passed by an Iveco Turbostar) but it cost a fortune in repairs and derv.
Electrics were always faulty, drove back to Bradford from Newcastle once with all 4 headlights lit as they wouldn’t turn off.
A truck that was well ahead of its time, it even had a built in shower!..but only when it rained :slight_smile:

del949:
the two TC’s that the Bramley bros had were a short wheelbase 350 ■■■■■■■ and a long wheelbase 290 ■■■■■■■■
The 350 (TKH 477R) was transferred to Bradford (Panalpina Northern Ltd) where I had it for about 4 years , when it was replaced by another ex Hull unit, Merc 1626 JAT 467 V, finally Bradford bought a new unit for me, a Merc powerliner 1927 which I had until the company went pop!
The TC could certainly go, I had it off the top of the tacho at 85 and it still had revs left,( still got passed by an Iveco Turbostar) but it cost a fortune in repairs and derv.
Electrics were always faulty, drove back to Bradford from Newcastle once with all 4 headlights lit as they wouldn’t turn off.
A truck that was well ahead of its time, it even had a built in shower!..but only when it rained :slight_smile:

Transcontinentals were great trucks as long as you could cope with the electrics and the brakes :stuck_out_tongue:

Panalpina had a new fully trimmed F88 cab sat on a rack in the Hull workshop. I wonder where that went!

the F88 cab was fitted to RKH648R and that went to Bradford too, in time that was replaced with another ex Hull unit, a merc 1632 DAG 999T, subsequently repaced by a new 1628
(we got a lot of hand me downs in Bradford!)

Wheel Nut:
Transcontinentals were great trucks as long as you could cope with the electrics and the brakes :stuck_out_tongue:

Spot on there Malc.I had a Transcontinental and ran it with a drag,brakes were perfect,but drop the trailer and run solo with the bloody thing was another kettle of fish,shoving harder on t’foot brake,just like my old Albion Reiver in the 60s.
This was the Ford,had it from new for two years,it also used let watter in through the illuminated headboard,but what the hell,a 240 ■■■■■■■ and 13 speed Fuller made up for all that,plus it would “rock on” a bit. :sunglasses:

where was panalpina based in Hull? any pics? :smiley:

JonB1973:
where was panalpina based in Hull? any pics? :smiley:

Down the bottom of Valletta Street past Crossroads

I have scoured the net to try and find some pics of Panalpinas motors but can’t find any at all.

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anyone remember gilyott & scott used to have a yard on sutton fields were mc brides aerosol site is now.
use to run light green scania 110s finished in the late 70s to early 80s i believe. anyone got any pics of them
or ex drivers out there. regards johny rose63. :wink:

JohnyRose63:
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Hi Johnyrose63

That’s one of Links’ old F10’s, My Uncle George Graves RIP, had the first one they got - WRH 172S direct from the CV show in 1978,

I drove it myself when working holiday relief for them in the early 80’s and it still ran well.