flishflunk:
Hiya Chris,
sounds like the same cafe to me, remember now there was a lot of market motors about. In the late 50s early 60s a friend of mine had an Uncle who drove for Turners doing the night trunk from/to Manchester. Who knows, you may have had a lift from him. Small world or what.
Wish I could remember that Cafes name on the A19 as well. Mind you I wish I could remember a lot of others to
Do you remember one opening at Hazel Grove. Think it was called something like Legs Cafe. Because all the girls wore Bikinis. Couldnāt park for miles when it first opened. Believe the police had to come and sort out the traffic chaos
Ray
Thatās a new one on me at Hazel Grove Ray,was it near the lorry park at the lights? Our Chesterfield drivers used to fiddle home from there.
I can only remember one Turnerās driver from Collyhurst,Manchester depot.He was a big Irish feller and a natural āHell Driverā with his Perkins engined āSā type Bedford and 4-in -line trailer.Iām sure your friendsā uncle will have picked me up,none ever went past.Some of the Manchester trunkers changed over at Newark with the Fordham drivers and like I said at Grantham with Norwich.
There must be somebody on here who remembers the name of that A19 cafe.
Good morning Chris, I have just spent another sleepless night thinking of the name of the cafe opposite The Woodside on the A19 and the only thing that I can think of is The Trees .
If itās the one that I am thinking of was it on the left of the A19 going southbound just after you passed an old coaching house called The Tontine not far from where Prestons of Potto used to be ?.
As somebody mentioned it was on a slope and not the best place to park a full tanker on the way back from I.C.I. Wilton or Seal Sands. There was a large fuel tank on a stand in the left hand corner of the yard with either the words fuel or the name of the cafe written on it in big letters. I though that Harry or Archie might of known this one .
Regards Steve.
mushroomman:
Good morning Chris, I have just spent another sleepless night thinking of the name of the cafe opposite The Woodlands on the A19 and the only thing that I can think of is The Trees .
If itās the one that I am thinking of was it on the left of the A19 going southbound just after you passed an old coaching house called The Tontine not far from where Prestons of Potto used to be ?.
As somebody mentioned it was on a slope and not the best place to park a full tanker on the way back from I.C.I. Wilton or Seal Sands. There was a large fuel tank on a stand in the left hand corner of the yard with either the words fuel or the name of the cafe written on it in big letters. I though that Harry or Archie might of known this one .
Regards Steve.
Morning Steve.
Yes,thatās the one and I do remember now that a mate of mine parked on that slope with 5 pots full of crude benzene from Redcar and in the hot sun it expanded and started leaking out of the front compartment.It soaked away he saidā¦
It could well have been the Trees.Iām surprised none of our Teesside lads have come up with the name.
There was another cafe on the A19,further south below Thirsk not far from Dishforth roundabout that was,on the right hand side,with a filling station IIRC.
AND I CANāT REMEMBER THE NAME OF THAT ONE EITHER
Hi Chris, I know which one you mean but I canāt think of that name either, was it a Shell garage ?.
Surely there must be a few tanker drivers on Trucknet reading this who plodded up and down the A19 on their way to Teesport, Middlesbrough and Billingham ect. I know there is a lurker called Bones on here and if he is the lorry driver who played international rugby for England then he might remember . Not much fun in the winter when there was a bit of snow on the ground and it was foggy.
About 1992/3, I worked for Hansons running out of I.C.I. Huddersfield with Nitro Benzine up to I.C.I. Wilton then over to Seal Sands or over to Phillips Petroleum to reload Benzine. As they were both compatable there was no need for any purging and it worked out to be a good little number .
I did a couple of courses with Alan Walker at L.P.G. ( Liquid Powders and Gases ) at Batley , I wonder how many drivers did a tanker course with Alan and is he still about. Alan was a great lad and a credit to the transport industry with many years of driving experiance before he went into the classroom.
Now you have got me going again Chris, what was the name of that bloody cafe on the main road in Batley ah well another sleepness night coming up .
mushroomman:
Hi Chris, I know which one you mean but I canāt think of that name either, was it a Shell garage ?.
Surely there must be a few tanker drivers on Trucknet reading this who plodded up and down the A19 on their way to Teesport, Middlesbrough and Billingham ect. I know there is a lurker called Bones on here and if he is the lorry driver who played international rugby for England then he might remember . Not much fun in the winter when there was a bit of snow on the ground and it was foggy.
About 1992/3, I worked for Hansons running out of I.C.I. Huddersfield with Nitro Benzine up to I.C.I. Wilton then over to Seal Sands or over to Phillips Petroleum to reload Benzine. As they were both compatable there was no need for any purging and it worked out to be a good little number .
I did a couple of courses with Alan Walker at L.P.G. ( Liquid Powders and Gases ) at Batley , I wonder how many drivers did a tanker course with Alan and is he still about. Alan was a great lad and a credit to the transport industry with many years of driving experiance before he went into the classroom.
Now you have got me going again Chris, what was the name of that bloody cafe on the main road in Batley ah well another sleepness night coming up .
Regards Steve.
Well,Alan Walker,thereās a blast from the past,what a feller he was.I did my first ADR at Teesside Tech in 1977 or 8.I did another one in 1994 at Chesterfield and Alan was the tutor,a smashing bloke.
The times Iāve tipped Benzene in ICI Huddersfield,wish Iād as many tenners.A.E.Evans did it from Staveley Chemicals in the 60s and 70s and later on,in 1994 I worked for George Bloomer from Barlborough who did it from Staveley and also Bitmac in BSC Llanwern.Hansonās wagons tipped and loaded in the same place,24 hours a day,7 days a week,green and white werenāt they Steve? By that time it was Zeneca on Leeds Road and that place where you tipped benzene hadnāt altered in all those years and some of the same plant operators were still there.We may well have met in there Steve.
Now youāve started summat with another cafe at Batley and the nameās gone,bloody frustrating,but the names will turn up.Yes,the one near Dishforth was a Shell garage and Iāve had some dodgys on there in me time .
Going back to the Nitro Benzene job,there is someone on here or knows somebody that was on that job for donkeyās years,regular nights IIRC and I remember talking to a Hanson driver who said āItās tābest job in Yorkshireā.
Iāve got a photo lurking somewhere of Hansons,Iāll bung it on if I can find it.
The A19 cafe is the same one we are all on about. I always preferred the other side. It was the one with the round fuel tank next to the pumps. We shall call it Woodside South till someone tells us different.
I did three hazchems with Alan Walker, a perfect gent and he definitely knew his stuff. I think he was one of those who designed the original UK courses. Before that it was a bit hit and miss with chemicals.
An old Harold Wood driver told me; chuck some on the grass, if it kills it, take some home for the garden weeds, if it bubbles, give the missus it for oven cleaner. if it will burn, shove it in the car
Wheel Nut:
The A19 cafe is the same one we are all on about. I always preferred the other side. It was the one with the round fuel tank next to the pumps. We shall call it Woodside South till someone tells us different.
I did three hazchems with Alan Walker, a perfect gent and he definitely knew his stuff. I think he was one of those who designed the original UK courses. Before that it was a bit hit and miss with chemicals.
An old Harold Wood driver told me; chuck some on the grass, if it kills it, take some home for the garden weeds, if it bubbles, give the missus it for oven cleaner. if it will burn, shove it in the car
I think I met the same Haroldās driver Malc.Alan used to love the petrol demoā¦
Woodside South will do fine,any idea about the other one further towards Dishforth?
hiya,
Did Alan Walker ever drive for Bayfords of Leeds?, i seem to recollect a guy of similar name who introduced me to the art of tanker driving was only carrying polished water power station to power station initially but coursed up to gas oil later, a proper gent, this would have been the early 70s.
thanks harry long retired.
What was the name of the cafe on the a1 just south of the woodlands and immediately past the motel on the left.It had a small area for parking at the front and a split level area behind.If you overnighted you could go in the old house to watch tv.Toilets a bit primative but home cooked grub spot on.Man and his wife ran it.
regards dave.
Hi I did my first Hazchem course at ICI Billingham as that was the only place that did them and I did another a couple of years later at Smith and Robinsonās Rothwell and I am sure Alan Walker started their training centre, as I was a safety rep I used to go on all the courseās as they came out and I can say that I learnt something from each one. Some of the oil refineryās were very hot on the hazchem card and they checked it before being allowed on site as were some of the ICI plants but they ran the first courseāe so I guess that they would be.
Norman Ingram:
Years ago two cafeās on the A45 just before Cambridge, one was purchased by little Chef, the other was going for years, just before I retired, the other one was up for sale, I believe he wanted one and half million.
are you on about "the enterprise " at hardwick just before cambridge !,if yes its been demolished now occupied by a load of modern flats
YEs my old mucker, it looks like he got his money, the other one went in the 70ās, it was more up market than the enterprise, a wife & tall smart chap ran it, and sold out to Little chefās.
flishflunk:
Hiya Chris,
sounds like the same cafe to me, remember now there was a lot of market motors about. In the late 50s early 60s a friend of mine had an Uncle who drove for Turners doing the night trunk from/to Manchester. Who knows, you may have had a lift from him. Small world or what.
Wish I could remember that Cafes name on the A19 as well. Mind you I wish I could remember a lot of others to
Do you remember one opening at Hazel Grove. Think it was called something like Legs Cafe. Because all the girls wore Bikinis. Couldnāt park for miles when it first opened. Believe the police had to come and sort out the traffic chaos
Ray
Thatās a new one on me at Hazel Grove Ray,was it near the lorry park at the lights? Our Chesterfield drivers used to fiddle home from there.
I can only remember one Turnerās driver from Collyhurst,Manchester depot.He was a big Irish feller and a natural āHell Driverā with his Perkins engined āSā type Bedford and 4-in -line trailer.Iām sure your friendsā uncle will have picked me up,none ever went past.Some of the Manchester trunkers changed over at Newark with the Fordham drivers and like I said at Grantham with Norwich.
There must be somebody on here who remembers the name of that A19 cafe.
Hiya Chris,
The cafe was on the A6 just as you were coming out Of Hazel Grove on the left hand side heading towards Stockport. It was a shop type cafe. It was somewhere near where you would turn for Mirlees Diesels.
coca cola kid:
Just had a thought, could have been Tree Top, but still not sure hope we find out soon itās doin my head in
Well done our kid that name sounds familiar although I am still not certain about it .
Didnāt the hazardous loads legislation come about after The Mexborough Disaster and did anybody hear about the Swede who was having a cook up in his cab while loading something highly flammable, was that the cause of Mexborough ?, and what about The Four Minute Man with the Phenol, can anybody shed anymore light on these stories. Have these stories been mentioned on Trucknet before and I have missed them .
Getting back to cafeās, there was a very good one in the mid sixties at Slattocks Bridge on the A664 near Castleton, Rochdale called The Cabin Cafe. It was not too far from The Stakehill Industrial Estste which were just loads of fields for miles back then. It was run by a bloke called Bill and was a favourite stopping place for Ripponden and District drivers, Fothergill and Harvey and Ben Shaws soft drinks drivers.
Do you mean the explosion at Nyproās works at Flixborough,near Scunthorpe,Steve? That was on 1st June 1974 and 18 people were killed,all in the control room,and I think it was a Smith and Robinson fuel oil tanker driver died of a heart attack. The explosion occured when cyclohexane vapour escaped from a temporary retort by-pass and ignited.Luckily it was a saturday afternoon so there were no office staff present.I used to go in regular with cyclo,toluene and benzene,but not that saturday.It may well have hastened the hazchem/ADR courses,I think I took my first one in 1976.
Still not sure about āTree topsā,Iām sticking with āWoodlandsā.
Meanwhile hereās one of Hansonās AEC Mandators with what looks like an acid tank.Bit before your time there mate
coca cola kid:
Just had a thought, could have been Tree Top, but still not sure hope we find out soon itās doin my head in
Well done our kid that name sounds familiar although I am still not certain about it .
Didnāt the hazardous loads legislation come about after The Mexborough Disaster and did anybody hear about the Swede who was having a cook up in his cab while loading something highly flammable, was that the cause of Mexborough ?, and what about The Four Minute Man with the Phenol, can anybody shed anymore light on these stories. Have these stories been mentioned on Trucknet before and I have missed them .
Getting back to cafeās, there was a very good one in the mid sixties at Slattocks Bridge on the A664 near Castleton, Rochdale called The Cabin Cafe. It was not too far from The Stakehill Industrial Estste which were just loads of fields for miles back then. It was run by a bloke called Bill and was a favourite stopping place for Ripponden and District drivers, Fothergill and Harvey and Ben Shaws soft drinks drivers.
Hi,Steve
Cafe near Castleton, another one forgotten about,how could I forget that one, I was one of the Ben Shaws drivers
On various dangerous goods courses I was always told one of the main reasons for the regulations was because of an incident with a chemical tanker. Acid tanker I think. There had been an accident with the tanker and the driver was apparently trapped in his cab. A nurse passing in her car stopped to help and walked through a puddle of liquid on the ground. She didnāt make it and there wasnāt much left of her. The tanker had no markings or any indication of what it was carrying.
The Phenol incident was when the guy had finished his shift and he had washed and changed and waiting for his relief to come. While waiting, another tanker came for loading/unloading so he started to connect the pipe work. Some phenol dripped on to him, within minutes he had developed a rash, in another few minutes he was struggling for breath and shortly afterwards he was dead.
Cracking picture that Chris and you are dead right it was a bit before my time . My old mate Cyril Kelly R.I.P. worked for Hansons for donkeyās years and he reckoned that the best paying tanker job was moving Tallow from Liverpool to Trafford Park. One load a day, empty to Liverpool, load and wash off, tip Trafford Park wash off, back to the yard job and finish 10 hours guaranteed. I bet that they do a bit more than that today, not as many loads but there are not as many candels .
You were right again, it was Flixborough that I was thinking of but Flishflunk was spot on about the nurse and the leaking tanker and was probably right about The Four Minute Man and the Phynol incident.
If you remember Flishflunk there were two pinball machines in the left hand corner of The Cabin Cafe at Slattocks Bridge near the counter. I.I.R.C. if you accumulated twenty game credits and had a quite word with Bill the owner behind the counter, a ten bob note was secretly passed over and the score would automatically go back to zero .
Were The Corona Men and the lads from Cowley and Richardson your rivals in those days .
ah well another sleepness night coming up .
.