I’m actually very against intergration in Moomin Valley myself. Moomins relationship with Snorkmaiden is an abomination. Snorks and Moomins shouldn’t mix. Where will it end? Next we’ll have Hemulens going out with god knows what.
switchlogic:
I’m actually very against intergration in Moomin Valley myself. Moomins relationship with Snorkmaiden is an abomination. Snorks and Moomins shouldn’t mix. Where will it end? Next we’ll have Hemulens going out with god knows what.
They actually should have put you in that pick up in that Top Gear stunt instead of Hammond then pulled the plug leads and then refused to let you wipe off the slogan on the side when those rednecks decided to sort the problem in that town out. 
Carryfast:
Snudger:
What a rambling wind-up this all is! Should it go quiet between the main protagonists then RobK pops up to stir it up again. Not sure if CF gets wound up or if he is just unstoppable in his unalterable flow of views, wants to outdo everyone with the quantity of his posts and has to have the last word.Anyway, FYI, Sharia law is already here, to a slight extent, in the form of arbitration between consenting sides as long as it does not contradict UK law, I believe:- dailymail.co.uk/news/article … doors.html
and no bad thing in a few respects what with their robust attitude to crime, their liking of beards and multiple partners. Thin end of another wedge though? Unf, a lot of it is incompatible with the relative freedoms we have in the West.
CF, are you saying that the “enemy within” in the US is the South?
How do you conclude that what I’ve said (in support of) the old Confederate States of America is saying that they’ve ever been an ‘enemy within’
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The whole reason for being of the old CSA was to not be a part of the USA at all they never were ‘an enemy’ of the USA.It was the USA that made an enemy of them by refusing to let those Confederate States secede from the union and go their own way.They were’nt/are’nt the ‘enemy within’ they were actually the victims of aggression by the union in much the same way that the US itself later would have regarded Russia ‘if’ Russia had decided to go to war with the Ukraine and the Baltic states instead of letting them secede from the old USSR.In other word hypocricy on the part of the US government.
I’m saying that ‘the enemy within’ is the pc lot who’ve changed many of the old laws and values that we had here before the pc lot were allowed to alter them to suit their agenda.
But no I don’t want to have the last word on anything it’s just that there’s a lot of things going on in society that need sorting out and arguing about.
Are you saying the South were OK to do the importation of hundreds of thousands of enslaved Africans.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
I’m actually very against intergration in Moomin Valley myself. Moomins relationship with Snorkmaiden is an abomination. Snorks and Moomins shouldn’t mix. Where will it end? Next we’ll have Hemulens going out with god knows what.They actually should have put you in that pick up in that Top Gear stunt instead of Hammond then pulled the plug leads and then refused to let you wipe off the slogan on the side when those rednecks decided to sort the problem in that town out.
Right, and that relates to the post you quoted how exactly? Your a strange confused man.
Dave the Renegade:
Carryfast:
Snudger:
What a rambling wind-up this all is! Should it go quiet between the main protagonists then RobK pops up to stir it up again. Not sure if CF gets wound up or if he is just unstoppable in his unalterable flow of views, wants to outdo everyone with the quantity of his posts and has to have the last word.Anyway, FYI, Sharia law is already here, to a slight extent, in the form of arbitration between consenting sides as long as it does not contradict UK law, I believe:- dailymail.co.uk/news/article … doors.html
and no bad thing in a few respects what with their robust attitude to crime, their liking of beards and multiple partners. Thin end of another wedge though? Unf, a lot of it is incompatible with the relative freedoms we have in the West.
CF, are you saying that the “enemy within” in the US is the South?
How do you conclude that what I’ve said (in support of) the old Confederate States of America is saying that they’ve ever been an ‘enemy within’
The whole reason for being of the old CSA was to not be a part of the USA at all they never were ‘an enemy’ of the USA.It was the USA that made an enemy of them by refusing to let those Confederate States secede from the union and go their own way.They were’nt/are’nt the ‘enemy within’ they were actually the victims of aggression by the union in much the same way that the US itself later would have regarded Russia ‘if’ Russia had decided to go to war with the Ukraine and the Baltic states instead of letting them secede from the old USSR.In other word hypocricy on the part of the US government.
I’m saying that ‘the enemy within’ is the pc lot who’ve changed many of the old laws and values that we had here before the pc lot were allowed to alter them to suit their agenda.
But no I don’t want to have the last word on anything it’s just that there’s a lot of things going on in society that need sorting out and arguing about.
Are you saying the South were OK to do the importation of hundreds of thousands of enslaved Africans.
Think it was actually a lot of very rich plantation owners who did the importing to get rich off the back of cheap labour and were then left with the problem of having two seperate populations of ordinary working class ethnic British colonial rednecks and an even larger one of ethnic Africans.It was the differences between the ideas of how best to deal with that problem between the pc lot in the north and the (correct) lot in the South that led to the problems that erupted around 100 years later and are still there under the surface today because it was the pc lot in the North who won out.
You might be surprised to know that the Confederate government had passed a bill to phase out slavery anyway without any need for intervention by the union army.The union government just used the issue as an excuse to invade the Confederate States and to remove it’s government.
Which is probably why the Confederate government was never allowed to be re instated and the secession of those states still was’nt allowed to go ahead,even after slavery had been abolished under southern states laws,as it could have been if it was slavery that had just been the issue. 
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
I’m actually very against intergration in Moomin Valley myself. Moomins relationship with Snorkmaiden is an abomination. Snorks and Moomins shouldn’t mix. Where will it end? Next we’ll have Hemulens going out with god knows what.They actually should have put you in that pick up in that Top Gear stunt instead of Hammond then pulled the plug leads and then refused to let you wipe off the slogan on the side when those rednecks decided to sort the problem in that town out.
Right, and that relates to the post you quoted how exactly? Your a strange confused man.
Sorry I thought your post was a joke taking the zb out of southern states rednecks so I thought that I’d make one taking the zb out of it in return. 
Seems like you had a sense of humour malfunction.
I like the way you keep putting (correct) everywhere now. Is that you replacement for ‘context’?
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
I’m actually very against intergration in Moomin Valley myself. Moomins relationship with Snorkmaiden is an abomination. Snorks and Moomins shouldn’t mix. Where will it end? Next we’ll have Hemulens going out with god knows what.They actually should have put you in that pick up in that Top Gear stunt instead of Hammond then pulled the plug leads and then refused to let you wipe off the slogan on the side when those rednecks decided to sort the problem in that town out.
Right, and that relates to the post you quoted how exactly? Your a strange confused man.
Sorry I thought your post was a joke taking the zb out of southern states rednecks so I thought that I’d make one taking the zb out of it in return.
No it was a joke taking the ■■■■ out of you, you must of missed it. Apologies if I missed your joke, it was quite quite unhilarious. Tell me, was your humour bypass on the NHS or private?
How do you conclude that what I’ve said (in support of) the old Confederate States of America is saying that they’ve ever been an ‘enemy within’ .
The whole reason for being of the old CSA was to not be a part of the USA at all they never were ‘an enemy’ of the USA.It was the USA that made an enemy of them by refusing to let those Confederate States secede from the union and go their own way.They were’nt/are’nt the ‘enemy within’ they were actually the victims of aggression by the union in much the same way that the US itself later would have regarded Russia ‘if’ Russia had decided to go to war with the Ukraine and the Baltic states instead of letting them secede from the old USSR.In other word hypocricy on the part of the US government.
I’m saying that ‘the enemy within’ is the pc lot who’ve changed many of the old laws and values that we had here before the pc lot were allowed to alter them to suit their agenda.
But no I don’t want to have the last word on anything it’s just that there’s a lot of things going on in society that need sorting out and arguing about.
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Are you saying the South were OK to do the importation of hundreds of thousands of enslaved Africans.
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Think it was actually a lot of very rich plantation owners who did the importing to get rich off the back of cheap labour and were then left with the problem of having two seperate populations of ordinary working class ethnic British colonial rednecks and an even larger one of ethnic Africans.It was the differences between the ideas of how best to deal with that problem between the pc lot in the north and the (correct) lot in the South that led to the problems that erupted around 100 years later and are still there under the surface today because it was the pc lot in the North who won out.
You might be surprised to know that the Confederate government had passed a bill to phase out slavery anyway without any need for intervention by the union army.The union government just used the issue as an excuse to invade the Confederate States and to remove it’s government.
Which is probably why the Confederate government was never allowed to be re instated and the secession of those states still was’nt allowed to go ahead,even after slavery had been abolished under southern states laws,as it could have been if it was slavery that had just been the issue.
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This is what I asked.I didn’t ask for or need a history lessen on North America.
Are you saying the South were OK to do the importation of hundreds of thousands of enslaved Africans.
I’m starting to feel a bit sorry for poor old Carryfast. Born out of time and place, a life of broken dreams, now spending his twilight years battling a keyboard. Must be hard to carry round such disappointment and bitterness about your own life and the world you live in.
Dave the Renegade:
Carryfast:
Dave the Renegade:
Carryfast:
Snudger:
What a rambling wind-up this all is! Should it go quiet between the main protagonists then RobK pops up to stir it up again. Not sure if CF gets wound up or if he is just unstoppable in his unalterable flow of views, wants to outdo everyone with the quantity of his posts and has to have the last word.Anyway, FYI, Sharia law is already here, to a slight extent, in the form of arbitration between consenting sides as long as it does not contradict UK law, I believe:- dailymail.co.uk/news/article … doors.html
and no bad thing in a few respects what with their robust attitude to crime, their liking of beards and multiple partners. Thin end of another wedge though? Unf, a lot of it is incompatible with the relative freedoms we have in the West.
CF, are you saying that the “enemy within” in the US is the South?
How do you conclude that what I’ve said (in support of) the old Confederate States of America is saying that they’ve ever been an ‘enemy within’
The whole reason for being of the old CSA was to not be a part of the USA at all they never were ‘an enemy’ of the USA.It was the USA that made an enemy of them by refusing to let those Confederate States secede from the union and go their own way.They were’nt/are’nt the ‘enemy within’ they were actually the victims of aggression by the union in much the same way that the US itself later would have regarded Russia ‘if’ Russia had decided to go to war with the Ukraine and the Baltic states instead of letting them secede from the old USSR.In other word hypocricy on the part of the US government.
I’m saying that ‘the enemy within’ is the pc lot who’ve changed many of the old laws and values that we had here before the pc lot were allowed to alter them to suit their agenda.
But no I don’t want to have the last word on anything it’s just that there’s a lot of things going on in society that need sorting out and arguing about.
Are you saying the South were OK to do the importation of hundreds of thousands of enslaved Africans.
Think it was actually a lot of very rich plantation owners who did the importing to get rich off the back of cheap labour and were then left with the problem of having two seperate populations of ordinary working class ethnic British colonial rednecks and an even larger one of ethnic Africans.It was the differences between the ideas of how best to deal with that problem between the pc lot in the north and the (correct) lot in the South that led to the problems that erupted around 100 years later and are still there under the surface today because it was the pc lot in the North who won out.
You might be surprised to know that the Confederate government had passed a bill to phase out slavery anyway without any need for intervention by the union army.The union government just used the issue as an excuse to invade the Confederate States and to remove it’s government.
Which is probably why the Confederate government was never allowed to be re instated and the secession of those states still was’nt allowed to go ahead,even after slavery had been abolished under southern states laws,as it could have been if it was slavery that had just been the issue.
This is what I asked.I didn’t ask for or need a history lessen on North America.
CF, are you saying that the “enemy within” in the US is the South
I thought it was snudger who asked that question not you.You asked the question about the issues concerning slavery I answered them then you’re moaning about the history lesson.
I’ll answer it again the Confederate States never were and never have been an ‘enemy of or within’ the US.It was just a case of,what could even happen here in the future,in the case of sovereign states defending themselves from a federalist agenda.In this case they lost.
Surely it’s clear enough to see that I’m supporting the actions of the Southern States not saying that they’re an enemy within .
I edited my post actually Carryfast.I think the USA is the most corrupt place on earth!!!.Unless they get their act together they are going to bankrupt themselves and this country as well.
switchlogic:
I’m starting to feel a bit sorry for poor old Carryfast. Born out of time and place, a life of broken dreams, now spending his twilight years battling a keyboard. Must be hard to carry round such disappointment and bitterness about your own life and the world you live in.
I thought I was battling a load of pc zealots but if it’s just the zb computer writing all this zb that I’m arguing with I’ll just throw it in a bath full of water and see what happens it might then see sense.But hopefully these are’nt my twilight years just yet.
Dave the Renegade:
I edited my post actually Carryfast.I think the USA is the most corrupt place on earth!!!.Unless they get their act together they are going to bankrupt themselves and this country as well.
Youn might be surprised to know that they’ve got ordinary working class people there just like here who are’nt exactly happy about the way the place is going either.It did’nt help when they listened to all the bs about globalisation being good for the western economies before letting their government give their industry and jobs to the Chinese after losing 50,000 people fighting them.Did’nt see the British government doing anything different though.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
I’m starting to feel a bit sorry for poor old Carryfast. Born out of time and place, a life of broken dreams, now spending his twilight years battling a keyboard. Must be hard to carry round such disappointment and bitterness about your own life and the world you live in.I thought I was battling a load of pc zealots but if it’s just the zb computer writing all this zb that I’m arguing with I’ll just throw it in a bath full of water and see what happens it might then see sense.But hopefully these are’nt my twilight years just yet.
Many apologies old bean I meant battling with a keyboard. Do feel free to pop it in the bath though, something coherent and readable might appear for a change. 
Carryfast:
Dave the Renegade:
I edited my post actually Carryfast.I think the USA is the most corrupt place on earth!!!.Unless they get their act together they are going to bankrupt themselves and this country as well.Youn might be surprised to know that they’ve got ordinary working class people there just like here who are’nt exactly happy about the way the place is going either.It did’nt help when they listened to all the bs about globalisation being good for the western economies before letting their government give their industry and jobs to the Chinese after losing 50,000 people fighting them.Did’nt see the British government doing anything different though.
I realise there are working class people in the USA.I am not defending the British government,as far as I’m concerned they are a bunch of ■■■■■■■■■■■ I wouldn’t ■■■■ on them if they were on fire.
The USA and our lot are a waste of time.Why don’t you start a revolution Carryfast,with your knowledge and soapbox you would do well 
300 page thread?
Im surpised he hasn’t come out with ameraica is only in the crap due to the colour of the president. Mind you it might have something to do with the retarded hillbilly who was there before.
I know a bit more than you think about America carryfast as I went out with an american girl for three years and visited there and traveled quite a bit but only Florida in hillbilly country.
Well, my own pathetic attempt at stirring was at least partially successful. CF, I was only conflating (I think) your statement regarding Southern States not following the national flag as not being patriotic and just pointed it out to tease you, not seriously considering them to be an insidious movement aimed at the overthrow of the Govt. I did think about whether I should raise the “war of Northern aggression” question before you did. That isn’t heard a lot especially as it’s invalid and as has been said before, it’s the winners who write history, though it’s interesting to speculate where history would’ve led us had the South won. 2 countries? I bet covert colour discrimination is still acceptable in the South. Of course any infighting people would unite against a greater common foe if they had any sense.
There’s another thing the Norse nutjob and Clarkson had in common and that is contempt of certain people’s desecration of their own flag, which may or may not be relevant here.
I am much more concerned that someone else is quoting the Daily Mail as fact. Can you obtain double strait jackets?