haddy:
Hello again Chris, Pledger’s colour was light blue in later years but I seem to remember them having at least one motor bearing either Spiller’s or Bibby’s livery during the '60s but then of course I could be mistaken. It must have been late '70s when they finished haulage and just doing storage on Shipdham airfield. I loaded soft drinks out of there many times for Reckitt and Colman, flat trailers then, curtainsiders are for girls, (only joking) but most of the time you could sheet and rope inside the hangar.
As for Superior, you were right about Ken Swallow, he had some motors in their colours and later was on Norfolk Line. Another Sheffield haulier on the same job was Hepplestones and both firms would come down to Yarmouth and swap trailers at night.
And yes “that” roof is still there at Markham Moor and has been since 1953. It was designed by Lincoln arctitect Sam Scorer and more examples of his work can be found in his home town. Such roofs are known as “hyperbolic paraboloid” or “hypar” for short. Now where did I get this information from??
I’ll try and find out about Barrets, one of their old drivers now live not far from me, and let you know. Regards, Haddy.
Hi Haddy.I’m not too sure but I think Ken Swallow passed away and his work was taken over by Hepplestones who I think are still going - I haven’t been in that area for years.
There was haulier from Stockton who ran a Norwich trunk with an 8-wheeler and saw them in Grantham bus station about the same time as Turners.I can’t remember the name of the company but IIRC the wagon was either a green Atkinson or ERF.I do know that requests for lifts to Kings Lynn were always refused Also Trowbridge Transport from Sheffield ran trunks to Norwich for Tinsley Wire Industries,they went to a firm called Barnards and ran yellow AECs.I never saw them so don’t know what time they left Sheffield at night.
Are Dents from Hilgay still going?
Hello Chris, the haulier from Stockton who ran a night trunk to Norwich in those days was probably Bells. I mentioned them in an earlier post to you and they were taken over by Spinks, I can’t remember when but would guess it would be late 1960s.
I remember Trowbridges running into Barnards with wire, we also used to load for there from British Ropes at Doncaster. Barnards have long gone and the site is a retail park now, you know, the kind of place you visit on wet Sundays, very boring, yawn yawn yawn. Anyway did Trowbridges have a yard at Dodworth?
Dents finished a few years ago now. There was an article in one of the classic truck magazines, I can’t remember which one, about them along with a couple of photos. Their history goes back many years. A couple of old mates worked there and I don’t think it was a bad job but as far as I’m aware there wasn’t a sleeper cab in the whole fleet. Best regards,Haddy, Gt. Yarmouth.
haddy:
Hello Chris, the haulier from Stockton who ran a night trunk to Norwich in those days was probably Bells. I mentioned them in an earlier post to you and they were taken over by Spinks, I can’t remember when but would guess it would be late 1960s.
I remember Trowbridges running into Barnards with wire, we also used to load for there from British Ropes at Doncaster. Barnards have long gone and the site is a retail park now, you know, the kind of place you visit on wet Sundays, very boring, yawn yawn yawn. Anyway did Trowbridges have a yard at Dodworth?
Dents finished a few years ago now. There was an article in one of the classic truck magazines, I can’t remember which one, about them along with a couple of photos. Their history goes back many years. A couple of old mates worked there and I don’t think it was a bad job but as far as I’m aware there wasn’t a sleeper cab in the whole fleet. Best regards,Haddy, Gt. Yarmouth.
Hi Haddy,yes I think it was Bells from Stockton and sorry,you did mention it before and I forgot .Trowbridge went to Dodworth as Walker-Trowbridge years ago and may still be running.On odd occasions I would have to load out of Tinsley Wire and when it got to about 4-00pm priority was given to all Trowbridge trunks,they had a full-time shunter in there.So it was “come back tomorrow” syndrome Do you recall a firm from Kings Lynn called “Fast Freight”,they ran TK Bedfords,blue I think and were real early starters on multi drops round London.They’ve picked me up as early as 3-00am at the junction of the A47 and A10 at Lynn.They ran to the A11 via Brandon so it was about a mile and half walk to Feltwell camp from the dropping-off point
Cheers,
Chris.
LB76:
hi Ya Haddy,
I can remember bullens from my mis-spent youth riding up to Birmingham market in the late '60s, and i can recall jock too, had some great laughs with the -
was it jock who wore the top hat a time or two?
Hello again LB76, it could have been the same Jock although he must have been at Bartrums in the late 60’s or early 70’s. I remember this because he had one of the first F88s. How many they had I don’t know but they were among the first in E.Anglia along with the one we had in 1969 at Perfects of Gt.Yarmouth. Ours was H reg. and it was a pity there was only one.
One or two more names from Wyatts,Bob Martin, Barry ■■, Ken from N.Norfolk, Barry Burrage, and many years ago Arthur “Jock” Harris was a trailer boy.I was given a photo of a Wyatt’s Scania Varbis (TVF350G) recently, along with several more old Norfolk and Suffolk motors to add to my collection.
hi i had a friend who was a trailor mate at fridged freight in the late sixties his name was jesse sneddon he used to travel with a driver named george betts
on a six wheel and drag he went all over europe he told me they carried meat for the us forces and ross and birds eye frozen foods he also told me
hauling hanging meat was a hairy job
if any ones interested there,s a brilliant artical in the march edition of truck and driver on fridged freight by bill robins
loads of photos and info . stoney03
Hello Skandiahamn, you were right about St. Ives, they certainly did creep into Norfolk also Suffolk as they worked out of a pit, I believe, in the Flixton area. This would have been in the early 60s and I can remember them coming past my home many times as I have always lived beside the A143 and a bloke by the name of Geoff who now lives in our village drove an S50 half cabbed Foden for them. I didn’t realise they were part of the Greenwoods group until reading an article on them in one of the magazines ( I can’t remember which one ) along with some great photos, one of them of an eight-wheeler hanging off the side of St. Ives bridge as the result of a collision. When I drove for Superior in Yarmouth and used the A604 ( now A14 ) regularly,running up to the Offord depot near Huntingdon, many St. Ives motors could be seen as this single track road ran right past one of their depots, it could have been the workshops, now occupied by a bus/coach firm. In my collection I have a photo of a Mk.5 AEC unit with a four in line boogie loaded with a concrete beam, reg.285 LEW. When I get time I’ll have a look for that magazine as I keep them all and get back to you with some more numbers etc. It will take a bit of finding as I buy three a month, T&D, CCV,and Heritage Commercials. I must have been weaned on diesel ! Regards Haddy.
haddy:
Hello Skandiahamn, you were right about St. Ives, they certainly did creep into Norfolk also Suffolk as they worked out of a pit, I believe, in the Flixton area. This would have been in the early 60s and I can remember them coming past my home many times as I have always lived beside the A143 and a bloke by the name of Geoff who now lives in our village drove an S50 half cabbed Foden for them. I didn’t realise they were part of the Greenwoods group until reading an article on them in one of the magazines ( I can’t remember which one ) along with some great photos, one of them of an eight-wheeler hanging off the side of St. Ives bridge as the result of a collision. When I drove for Superior in Yarmouth and used the A604 ( now A14 ) regularly,running up to the Offord depot near Huntingdon, many St. Ives motors could be seen as this single track road ran right past one of their depots, it could have been the workshops, now occupied by a bus/coach firm. In my collection I have a photo of a Mk.5 AEC unit with a four in line boogie loaded with a concrete beam, reg.285 LEW. When I get time I’ll have a look for that magazine as I keep them all and get back to you with some more numbers etc. It will take a bit of finding as I buy three a month, T&D, CCV,and Heritage Commercials. I must have been weaned on diesel ! Regards Haddy.
Hi Haddy.
Has Roudham Transport been mentioned on here.I thought about them the other day and from memory I think they were from East Harling.IIRC I had a lift with them one night from Kings Lynn to A57/A1 island above Markham Moor.Did they run a trunk or would it have been market work - it’s so long ago I can’t remember
Hello again Chris, I would guess Roudhams did market work in those days. I suppose they could have had a trunk but in the early 60s I seem to think they ran mostly ridgids so no trailer swaps. I can remember them working out of Gaymer’s Cider in Attleborough and there was recently a photo on E bay of a BMC four wheeler with a removable fridge box.I didn’t bid for it as it wasn’t very good although I collect photos of East Anglian hauliers. They were taken over by Welches, probably in the 70s, and they were in the Transport Association like our bloke so we used to fill up with diesel there a good bit. Only a short distance from the A11 it was a handy spot, no Green Shield stamps though. Regards,Haddy,Gt. Yarmouth.
PS. Excuse my ignorance but what does IIRC mean ? I’m still a new boy on here.
haddy:
Hello again Chris, I would guess Roudhams did market work in those days. I suppose they could have had a trunk but in the early 60s I seem to think they ran mostly ridgids so no trailer swaps. I can remember them working out of Gaymer’s Cider in Attleborough and there was recently a photo on E bay of a BMC four wheeler with a removable fridge box.I didn’t bid for it as it wasn’t very good although I collect photos of East Anglian hauliers. They were taken over by Welches, probably in the 70s, and they were in the Transport Association like our bloke so we used to fill up with diesel there a good bit. Only a short distance from the A11 it was a handy spot, no Green Shield stamps though. Regards,Haddy,Gt. Yarmouth.
PS. Excuse my ignorance but what does IIRC mean ? I’m still a new boy on here.
Hi Haddy.
Sorry pal,IIRC = If I remember correctly - the only bit of computer slang I know .
Would that be Welches of Stapleford that took Roudham over? I collect AEC photos,particularly tankers and although some are ok on e-bay there is some rubbish on there.
Gaymer’s Cider is a blast from the past,I remember seeing the advert on lorry headboards.
haddy:
Hello again Chris, I would guess Roudhams did market work in those days. I suppose they could have had a trunk but in the early 60s I seem to think they ran mostly ridgids so no trailer swaps. I can remember them working out of Gaymer’s Cider in Attleborough and there was recently a photo on E bay of a BMC four wheeler with a removable fridge box.I didn’t bid for it as it wasn’t very good although I collect photos of East Anglian hauliers. They were taken over by Welches, probably in the 70s, and they were in the Transport Association like our bloke so we used to fill up with diesel there a good bit. Only a short distance from the A11 it was a handy spot, no Green Shield stamps though. Regards,Haddy,Gt. Yarmouth.
PS. Excuse my ignorance but what does IIRC mean ? I’m still a new boy on here.
Hi Haddy.
Sorry pal,IIRC = If I remember correctly - the only bit of computer slang I know .
Would that be Welches of Stapleford that took Roudham over? I collect AEC photos,particularly tankers and although some are ok on e-bay there is some rubbish on there.
Gaymer’s Cider is a blast from the past,I remember seeing the advert onthe lorry head boards
Chris Webb:
Same company Chris, I remember them running Ivecos or it could have been Fiats among other marques when they took over Roudhams, I often saw them in the brickworks up north backloading for E. Anglia. I’ll have a look through my collection when I get time for AEC photos, not many tankers though. Regards, Haddy.
Dear Chris,
just thought I would give you some info on Bowes.They are still running an abattoir in Watton.They were recently taken over by Cranswick foods from Hull.I deliver into Norfolk every Thursday and see their livestock trucks carrying pigs quite often.I have a few photos of their Erf,s delivering sows to the now closed abattoir at Banham(pilgrim foods)so I’ll try to post them on soon.
p.s I think you might know my dad. John Perry who worked for mfs at Hitchin
cobblers09:
Dear Chris,
just thought I would give you some info on Bowes.They are still running an abattoir in Watton.They were recently taken over by Cranswick foods from Hull.I deliver into Norfolk every Thursday and see their livestock trucks carrying pigs quite often.I have a few photos of their Erf,s delivering sows to the now closed abattoir at Banham(pilgrim foods)so I’ll try to post them on soon.
p.s I think you might know my dad. John Perry who worked for mfs at Hitchin
Hi cobbler. Thanks for the info on Bowes they’ve been going some years.
Well John Perry I do remember at MFS Hitchin on the Littlewoods contract.I think he was working in the office down there on nights,not sure if he was driving when I started with MFS at Maltby in 1979.I remember some of the drivers as well as I was shunting part-time on nights.They moved from Hitchin and went to North Luton Ind Estate,past GM and near the railway around 1985/6 when we started on the chill/frozen for L’woods.
Is your dad still active,I hope so,give him my regards and tell him I’m still in touch with some of the old MFS lads,pre - Wincanton days as well.He can contact me if he wants by e-mail .
Hello Chris,
Thanks for the reply.I’m not sure exactly the date that he worked at hitchin,Iknow he started as a driver then went into the office as a night controller.He has recently got himself a pc so I will tell him to send you an email.He said that he knew you after I showed him the photo of the Littlewoods 111 scania that you posted!
Hi all. I’m delighted to share with you the only 2 photos that i know to be in existance of my grandad at work. Not sure of the lorry model. The date on the back of the photos is 20/8/1960.
Hello Rob, lovely photos. I’m almost sure that model Austin was a 701, as was the Morris, later badged as BMC. Lacon’s Brewery of Yarmouth ran some in artic form ( I have a Corgi model ) and there were still a few running about when I started on the road.
Anyway have a good weekend at Peterborough lets hope it keeps fine, catch you later regards, Haddy.
davidcox:
Hi
Does anyone remember a firm that used to run two, I believe S21 Foden, 6 wheel artic units with a steering dolly, taking concrete bridge beams from a yard near Swaffham, they were dark green I recall and the drivers were brothers? This was late 60s.
I think the firm that you are talking about is TTB from Amersham, they carted concrete beams out of Lenwade. They had two brothers who drove for them. one of the brothers can’t recall his name but if he wasn’t working sunday’s he would take his truck home and polish it! he would also remove the mudgaurds on arrival at site and hide them behind a hedge or whatever there was to conceal them. romour has it that he did this one day any a irishman working on the motorway went to lunch and sat on them and buckled them.
Other firms that carted beams out of Lenwade were Pointer’s,Bells,Spinks,Anderson’s,Ronways,Roger green, and Freddie Bayfield to name but a few. my memory is not what it used to be. perhaps someone will come up with more details and photo’s hopefully. Another firm that manufactured bridge beams at Lenwade was Boulton and Pauls, the beams were called Preflex Beams, B & P had their own fleet of lorries that included some Leyland Octopuses and Boogies, later on they had an ERF that Albert Swatman (ex Pointer’s) drove, rgds. pointerdog2.
Hi all
In the early 80s i worked for a campay called Travenol Lab there HQ was in Thetford and we where in a Warehouse in Warrington everything was trunked up to us by a company called Podmore his truckwere blue DAF 2800 pulling Tilt in Travenols colours of Blue. Is there anyone out there that has any photos or info on them
I think that you may well be right, both the brothers had a broad Norfolk accent. The wagons they had were dark red and green as I recall and it was from out of Lenwade. At the time I was the steersman (on the back) working for AMEYS of Oxford later becoming ARC. I have got a picture in my gallery on this site but cant for the life of me get it into a forum. Thanks pointerdog2
pointerdog2:
davidcox:
Hi
Does anyone remember a firm that used to run two, I believe S21 Foden, 6 wheel artic units with a steering dolly, taking concrete bridge beams from a yard near Swaffham, they were dark green I recall and the drivers were brothers? This was late 60s.
I think the firm that you are talking about is TTB from Amersham, they carted concrete beams out of Lenwade. They had two brothers who drove for them. one of the brothers can’t recall his name but if he wasn’t working sunday’s he would take his truck home and polish it! he would also remove the mudgaurds on arrival at site and hide them behind a hedge or whatever there was to conceal them. romour has it that he did this one day any a irishman working on the motorway went to lunch and sat on them and buckled them.
Other firms that carted beams out of Lenwade were Pointer’s,Bells,Spinks,Anderson’s,Ronways,Roger green, and Freddie Bayfield to name but a few. my memory is not what it used to be. perhaps someone will come up with more details and photo’s hopefully. Another firm that manufactured bridge beams at Lenwade was Boulton and Pauls, the beams were called Preflex Beams, B & P had their own fleet of lorries that included some Leyland Octopuses and Boogies, later on they had an ERF that Albert Swatman (ex Pointer’s) drove, rgds. pointerdog2.
Also Trowbridge Transport from Sheffield ran trunks to Norwich for Tinsley Wire Industries,they went to a firm called Barnards and ran yellow AECs.I never saw them so don’t know what time they left Sheffield at night.
.Trowbridge went to Dodworth as Walker-Trowbridge years ago and may still be running.On odd occasions I would have to load out of Tinsley Wire and when it got to about 4-00pm priority was given to all Trowbridge trunks,they had a full-time shunter in there.So it was “come back tomorrow” syndrome 
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has anybody got anymore Photo’s of Pointers please?