Norfolk haulage companies

Anyone remember Jack Shewrings out of Costessy? When I was on for them in about 1974 we only had two wagons - an F86 which was quite swish for the time but i had a very tired D800 unit. We used to do general when not hauling slaughter equipment for JS engineering which was the parent firm. My regular job was 12 tons pig food ex Quaker Oats in 1/2 hundredweight bags back to Norwich (all handball, of course) but we also carried Dania combines all over the country. Eric Barretts used to run with us sometimes.
My mate drove a Seddon unit for another local firm. Maroon livery - was it Semence or something like that?

onespeed:
Anyone remember Jack Shewrings out of Costessy? When I was on for them in about 1974 we only had two wagons - an F86 which was quite swish for the time but i had a very tired D800 unit. We used to do general when not hauling slaughter equipment for JS engineering which was the parent firm. My regular job was 12 tons pig food ex Quaker Oats in 1/2 hundredweight bags back to Norwich (all handball, of course) but we also carried Dania combines all over the country. Eric Barretts used to run with us sometimes.
My mate drove a Seddon unit for another local firm. Maroon livery - was it Semence or something like that?

Hello Onespeed, Semence was from Wymondham and I’m sure they also ran coaches. In fact an old boy once told me they had a couple of wagons that also had coach bodies somehow fitted to them for use in the summer months. Whether this was true I don’t know because it was way before my driving days and I’ve been kicking around for several years now. Come to think about it you could be carting people about one day then sugar beet the next with the same motor. Anyway I knew a bloke who drove a Seddon for them in the '70s, his name was Fred, could this be your mate? Regards Haddy, Gt.Yarmouth.

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Any you Norfolk boys remember Norfolk Line when they had a few Leyland beaver type cabs mid to late 70s never seen them pulling the tilts but used to have a good ol crack with one of the lads on a regular basis always pulled a flat & delivered to the likes of Sainsbury Charlton. Waitrose Bracknell etc always a 5 or 6hr job.Got to know him quite well but cant remember his name. Somebody mentioned Perfects not that many yrs ago sometimes backloaded off him if in the area.

Who ran the wagons out of the abbatoir at Watton in Norfolk,they were green and IIRC ERFs.A regular sight going through Sheffield on their way over Woodhead to Manchester.I’m sure their name began with “B” and I would sometimes see them running over at night.

Chris Webb:
Who ran the wagons out of the abbatoir at Watton in Norfolk,they were green and IIRC ERFs.A regular sight going through Sheffield on their way over Woodhead to Manchester.I’m sure their name began with “B” and I would sometimes see them running over at night.

Hello Chris, you are probably thinking of Bowes. I’m not sure if they are still going though. Regards Haddy, Gt. Yarmouth.

haddy:

Chris Webb:
Who ran the wagons out of the abbatoir at Watton in Norfolk,they were green and IIRC ERFs.A regular sight going through Sheffield on their way over Woodhead to Manchester.I’m sure their name began with “B” and I would sometimes see them running over at night.

Hello Chris, you are probably thinking of Bowes. I’m not sure if they are still going though. Regards Haddy, Gt. Yarmouth.

That’s them Haddy,Bowes.Thanks.
Do you remember when Turners had a depot at Costessey,late 50s/early 60s?

Chris Webb:

haddy:

Chris Webb:
Who ran the wagons out of the abbatoir at Watton in Norfolk,they were green and IIRC ERFs.A regular sight going through Sheffield on their way over Woodhead to Manchester.I’m sure their name began with “B” and I would sometimes see them running over at night.

Hello Chris, you are probably thinking of Bowes. I’m not sure if they are still going though. Regards Haddy, Gt. Yarmouth.

That’s them Haddy,Bowes.Thanks.
Do you remember when Turners had a depot at Costessey,late 50s/early 60s?

Hello again Chris, since the mid to late '60s Turners have been based in Burton Rd. in the industrial estate between the old ring road and Norwich airport.
Before that I seem to remember them having a small yard just off the main A1067 Drayton road at Hellesdon. This was when I was “cutting my teeth” on an
“O” type Bedford (petrol engine) in 1964 for HG Barber Transport of Bradwell nr Gt. Yarmouth and those Dodge and BMC artics of Turners seemed huge. I cannot remember them having a depot at Costessey though. Could you be thinking of Bells of Stockton having a yard there as their colours were similar to Turners at the time,green and red, before being taken over by the legendary Spinks Interfreight ? Regards Haddy, Gt Yarmouth.

I think that must have been BOWES of Watton .
Bill

Hi Haddy.I always thought it was at Costessey but I never went there.I was in the RAF at Feltwell,and from 1960 to 1962 used to hitch hike to Sheffield.Turners ran a trunk to Manchester from Norwich,sunday to thursday nights and I got lifts with them regular from the old swing bridge in Kings Lynn to Grantham where they changed over in the bus station.I just got out of one motor and into another and was in Sheffield around 0200.They were running “S” type Bedfords from Manchester for a bit then changed to LAD Dodges.The Norwich depot ran a mixture of Austins and BMCs but eventually had the Dodges too.IIRC the trailers were all BTC 4-in- line :open_mouth: .Frankies at Donnington was a regular call.

Hi
Does anyone remember a firm that used to run two, I believe S21 Foden, 6 wheel artic units with a steering dolly, taking concrete bridge beams from a yard near Swaffham, they were dark green I recall and the drivers were brothers? This was late 60s.

haddy:

LB76:
hi Ya Haddy,
I can remember bullens from my mis-spent youth riding up to Birmingham market in the late '60s, and i can recall jock too, had some great laughs with the -
was it jock who wore the top hat a time or two?

Hello again LB76, it could have been the same Jock although he must have been at Bartrums in the late 60’s or early 70’s. I remember this because he had one of the first F88s. How many they had I don’t know but they were among the first in E.Anglia along with the one we had in 1969 at Perfects of Gt.Yarmouth. Ours was H reg. and it was a pity there was only one.
One or two more names from Wyatts,Bob Martin, Barry ■■, Ken from N.Norfolk, Barry Burrage, and many years ago Arthur “Jock” Harris was a trailer boy.I was given a photo of a Wyatt’s Scania Varbis (TVF350G) recently, along with several more old Norfolk and Suffolk motors to add to my collection.

hi i had a friend who was a trailor mate at fridged freight in the late sixties his name was jesse sneddon he used to travel with a driver named george betts
on a six wheel and drag he went all over europe he told me they carried meat for the us forces and ross and birds eye frozen foods he also told me
hauling hanging meat was a hairy job

hiya, the name rings a bell but i cant put a face to it, I certainly remember George Betts - he was a nice chap i met up with george several times after FF finished when he was working for Bux box,a lovely old chap of the old school
Cheers mate
Bill

haddy:

Chris Webb:

haddy:

Chris Webb:
Who ran the wagons out of the abbatoir at Watton in Norfolk,they were green and IIRC ERFs.A regular sight going through Sheffield on their way over Woodhead to Manchester.I’m sure their name began with “B” and I would sometimes see them running over at night.

Hello Chris, you are probably thinking of Bowes. I’m not sure if they are still going though. Regards Haddy, Gt. Yarmouth.

That’s them Haddy,Bowes.Thanks.
Do you remember when Turners had a depot at Costessey,late 50s/early 60s?

Hello again Chris, since the mid to late '60s Turners have been based in Burton Rd. in the industrial estate between the old ring road and Norwich airport.
Before that I seem to remember them having a small yard just off the main A1067 Drayton road at Hellesdon. This was when I was “cutting my teeth” on an
“O” type Bedford (petrol engine) in 1964 for HG Barber Transport of Bradwell nr Gt. Yarmouth and those Dodge and BMC artics of Turners seemed huge. I cannot remember them having a depot at Costessey though. Could you be thinking of Bells of Stockton having a yard there as their colours were similar to Turners at the time,green and red, before being taken over by the legendary Spinks Interfreight ? Regards Haddy, Gt Yarmouth.

Chris, I’ve been told since that Turner’s main Norwich depot before Burton Rd. was on Salhouse Rd. I can still remember them having the yard at Hellesdon though. Regards Haddy.

haddy:
Chris, I’ve been told since that Turner’s main Norwich depot before Burton Rd. was on Salhouse Rd. I can still remember them having the yard at Hellesdon though. Regards Haddy.

Hi,

The only company I can remember on Salhouse Road is Fitzmaurice.

I used to live on Sale Road (backing onto Salhouse Road) and then off Blue Boar Lane.

DadsRetired:

haddy:
Chris, I’ve been told since that Turner’s main Norwich depot before Burton Rd. was on Salhouse Rd. I can still remember them having the yard at Hellesdon though. Regards Haddy.

Hi,

The only company I can remember on Salhouse Road is Fitzmaurice.

I used to live on Sale Road (backing onto Salhouse Road) and then off Blue Boar Lane.

Like I said Haddy I never went to the depot,all I know is when the trunkers were early back from Grantham they used to turn the engine off so as not to wake the foreman who lived close by :laughing:
Another one who gave me a lift from K.Lynn was Rowntree Mackintosh who trunked an ERF 8-legger down from Halifax to Norwich,I think that motor was on contract from BRS.Rickwoods was another and somebody from Guist (sp),may have been farmers though carrying their own produce.Also British Industrial Sand had a pit at Castleton near Lynn and they ran nights to the Yorkshire glass works.They ran some LAD Leyland Octopussies in the old Black and white livery and went like s*** off a shovel :smiley: I did have a couple of lifts with Frigid Freight,both times in an AEC MK5,once with a drag and once without.This would be around late 1960 to end 1962.
Around the mid 70s when I was on the road I called at Morleys at Markham Moor around midnight and the firm from Guist pulled in with a wagon and drag,I’m sure it was green in colour.There was a second man so it was either before 1974(when second manning stopped) or he was doubling up helping to tip.It was loaded with carrots IIRC.

Chris Webb:

DadsRetired:

haddy:
Chris, I’ve been told since that Turner’s main Norwich depot before Burton Rd. was on Salhouse Rd. I can still remember them having the yard at Hellesdon though. Regards Haddy.

Hi,

The only company I can remember on Salhouse Road is Fitzmaurice.

I used to live on Sale Road (backing onto Salhouse Road) and then off Blue Boar Lane.

Like I said Haddy I never went to the depot,all I know is when the trunkers were early back from Grantham they used to turn the engine off so as not to wake the foreman who lived close by :laughing:
Another one who gave me a lift from K.Lynn was Rowntree Mackintosh who trunked an ERF 8-legger down from Halifax to Norwich,I think that motor was on contract from BRS.Rickwoods was another and somebody from Guist (sp),may have been farmers though carrying their own produce.Also British Industrial Sand had a pit at Castleton near Lynn and they ran nights to the Yorkshire glass works.They ran some LAD Leyland Octopussies in the old Black and white livery and went like s*** off a shovel :smiley: I did have a couple of lifts with Frigid Freight,both times in an AEC MK5,once with a drag and once without.This would be around late 1960 to end 1962.
Around the mid 70s when I was on the road I called at Morleys at Markham Moor around midnight and the firm from Guist pulled in with a wagon and drag,I’m sure it was green in colour.There was a second man so it was either before 1974(when second manning stopped) or he was doubling up helping to tip.It was loaded with carrots IIRC.

Hello again Chris, I’m told that Turners were behind Fitzmaurice’s depot where the can factory is now. The only firm I can think of from Guist is Eric W Barret although I can only remember them running artics. Perhaps they ran wagon and drags a bit before my time (I started in '64 on local then distance work in '66) but I do seem to remember the rules for them changing around '68-'69 when braking systems were improved, I was at Superior at the time and we would backload a few firms who ran such outfits. I mentioned Rickwoods in an ealier post answering Mr. Vane’s question about them. As for Morleys, it was normally first stop for most of the Yarmouth boys. Not exactly the best cafe on the road but I for one was always pleased to reach it as the worst bit of the journey was “cracked”. Regards Haddy Gt. Yarmouth.

What about Pledgers from Shipdham :bulb: Don’t think they’ve had a mention

Must be showing me age here eh, they packed up years ago didn’t they.

Bob.

Hi Haddy.Yes,Barratts they were the ones,maybe I’m wrong about their wagon and drag but I’m almost sure it was :confused: The year would be 1978 when I saw it.Superior is a blast from the past from Yarmouth.I presume it’s the same company that ran Commer TS3s on produce work in the early 60s.There was always one or two parked on the main A57 at Woodhouse Mill on the outskirts of Sheffield,I think a bloke called Ken Swallow had something to do with them and he finished up working for Norfolk Line with his own vehicles.I remember Pledgers from Shipdham,weren’t they a brown colour,sure I had a lift with them once.Have Dents from Hilgay been mentioned,they had a big fleet at one time.
Aye,Morleys left a lot to be desired but it was handy for a dodgy if you lived in Sheffield :laughing:

Do you remember this garage on the opposite side of the road from the cafe?

Not sure if it’s still there,can’t see it from Isle of Man :laughing:

Hello again Chris, Pledger’s colour was light blue in later years but I seem to remember them having at least one motor bearing either Spiller’s or Bibby’s livery during the '60s but then of course I could be mistaken. It must have been late '70s when they finished haulage and just doing storage on Shipdham airfield. I loaded soft drinks out of there many times for Reckitt and Colman, flat trailers then, curtainsiders are for girls, (only joking) but most of the time you could sheet and rope inside the hangar.
As for Superior, you were right about Ken Swallow, he had some motors in their colours and later was on Norfolk Line. Another Sheffield haulier on the same job was Hepplestones and both firms would come down to Yarmouth and swap trailers at night.
And yes “that” roof is still there at Markham Moor and has been since 1953. It was designed by Lincoln arctitect Sam Scorer and more examples of his work can be found in his home town. Such roofs are known as “hyperbolic paraboloid” or “hypar” for short. Now where did I get this information from??
I’ll try and find out about Barrets, one of their old drivers now live not far from me, and let you know. Regards, Haddy.

davidcox:
Hi
Does anyone remember a firm that used to run two, I believe S21 Foden, 6 wheel artic units with a steering dolly, taking concrete bridge beams from a yard near Swaffham, they were dark green I recall and the drivers were brothers? This was late 60s.

St.Ives Sand & Gravel had dark green Fodens in the 60s, I have addresses of them being spread from the main depot in West End Fenstanton and Meadow Lane in Huntingdon as far afield as Syston & Wigston (Leic), Blackbushe Airfield (Guildford) and many other pits dotted around.
I don’t remember them having S.21 units, they used S.20 8-wheel tipper chassis as units for pulling beams, so it’s probably not St.Ives you’re thinking of.

I’m looking for info & pics of St.Ives Sand & Gravel if anyone has reg. Nos. etc, they had a huge fleet, sorry to drift across the border into Cambs, but they must have crept into Norfolk a bit!

This is the same motor, some chassis swapped from mixers to tippers and vice versa as work dictated, this one was used as a tractor unit in St.Ives dark green livery and later had a tipping body after St.Ives were taken over by Amalgamated Roadstone.