No more honeymoon period for EV owners

I previously had a Hybrid Petrol Range Rover. The range was poor meaning I was constantly refuelling it and it wasnt the most reliable of things, Range Rovers are far from what they were. My husband actually had a Tiguan company car, so before you buy one let me know and i will ask him to write down the things to check for on it for you as his was off the road for 3-months in one year, something to do with the timing chain if i remember. Ironically he had a hybrid Tucson as a courtesy car on one occasion while it was being fixed and the same thing happened to that so be careful on the earlier models and do some research.
I found the hybrid of little benefit to me in the end so I got rid of it 2 months ago. I am sure they work for some though.

Haha,

Flairs, brut and a tank top eh? sound irresistable. I did offer to show him an EV that’s true lol. My other form of transport is reserved for the hottest guys lol

LOL yeah, I watched that. Another chap had a different way of charging his Chevy Bolt.

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Think EV’s are ok if you have the facility to charge at home.
There will be plenty of people who are unable to do this.

Personally we live in a first floor flat in a redeveloped 100 year old house. The development was completed about three years ago and we were the first to move in (before the car parking area was fully surfaced) We asked the developer about charging units for the car park area but he just dismissed the whole thing as too expensive to implement.
If we want to install our own chargers into our two designated spaces we would have to pay to have the car park dug up to have the necessary cabling installed. The chargers would have to be mounted on some form of pillar or stand which would probably require planning permission as we are in a conservation area. The chargers would be what is technically a public area in a leasehold property so the issue of public liability insurance and rights of way would have to be brought into play.

My point is that until EV charging points are made compulsory within the planning permissions in new developments such as ours a lot of people will be put off buying EV’s.

Absolutely and it nice to read a justified reason to not be in a position to buy an EV rather than the same old misconceptions.

It would be nice to think that one day local facilities would be in place to offer cheap charging points for local people who cannot charge at home to make it an option for folks like you who are currently excluded from the benefits of an EV.

Your issue is exactly the type we should be addressing.

We’d need pictures, or it never happened :wink:

Automatically assuming CF isn’t “hot”, that might be unfair, he could be the spitting image of George Clooney or Leonardo DiCaprio or whoever occupies “the hot slot”

I wouldn’t be placing bets on that though :sunglasses:

Good post.
It seems that the regulations are changing, but not early enough for you to have gained it seems.

Part S of building regs 2022 in England means that new builds and major renovations, need to have charging points and/or cabling installed in parking areas.
Not surprisingly it is full of caveats and exceptions etc, but looks like a move in the right direction.

EV charging should become as optional as mains drainage is.

Putting my DG hat on for a moment, there’s a few other issues that have not be raised here:

  1. EV fires are extremely difficult to put out, they require a special type of fire extinguisher not widely seen (Lithex or Lithco). For large scale fires the fire services have no option than to entirely immerse in water, thus requiring an EV Containment Unit. Imagine a specially designed 40 yard skip the vehicle has to be winched into and then filled with many gallons of water. This does not extinguish the fire rapidly, and the EVCU cannot easily be ro-ro’ed onto the back of a vehicle for removal. Not to mention that LB fires give off hydrofluoric acid vapours - if you’ve seen Breaking Bad, you’ll know Walter and Jessie use this stuff to dissolve dead gangsters into a type of soup

  2. Recycling of LBs is in its infancy, there are only (when I last counted earlier this year) a mere TEN LB recycling facilities across the whole of Europe.

  3. Economics: As the demand increases, the raw materials will spiral in cost, hence the cars will spiral in cost. It’s more than just lithium, there’s graphite, cobalt, copper, nickel etc. All are limited resources and mining them causes environmental damage - thus counteracting the perceived benefits for out planet

  4. And… as of next year, ADR2025 will see the introduction of UN number categorization for “vehicles powered by lithium batteries”, which had before this point been exempt. This brings in a variety of requirements for consignor, carrier and consignee, not to mention recovery vehicle drivers. The difference between fully ADR regulated consignments and those not attracting the full ADR regs is quite considerable. I’m expecting to see a significant number of requests for Class-9-only ADR training.

Honeymoon period definitely over for the EV industry

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LOL pictures of what :wink:

Just evidence of the date actually taking place, ie you two both holding a copy of a newspaper from that day, you know, like a ransom demand photo :smile:

All valid points and the issues we should be discussing.

I think point two will evolve with demand. Point 3 will too as we have a lot of untouched resource, even in the UK but the damage to the environment that brings is a very valid one. Ultimately, battery technology will evolve, hopefully decreasing demand on resource.

Whatever happens we do need an alternative fuel choice to EV to avoid pressure on resources but also to prevent overcharging.

With you. I mean carryfast in his flairs could have been taken in 1962 without the newspaper evidence i suppose.

Carryfast just sent me one of their date last night in fact.

He looks quite dapper in his new Primark whistle tbf, …and Becky Wow ! :flushed:…I’m well impressed.
Missed my chance again it looks like.:roll_eyes::joy:

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Firstly I’m actually running a Touran with the 1.4 150 engine but unlike the Tiguan it has the 6 speed manual option and the thing is shockingly capable for the capacity.
There’s no way that I’d run one of these modern grenades outside of main dealer warranty and PCP contract.
The big JLR Hybrids, like the Tuareg, are all about the best of both worlds EV for local urban and nice 6 cylinder engine for out of town distance.
Don’t think JLR is any less reliable than anything else with comparable levels of technology and engine output.

I might be in with a chance if I can get my head around the brave new world Rob.Who needs motorways.

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Whatever happens we do need an alternative fuel choice to EV to avoid pressure on resources but also to prevent overcharging.

Surely we already have that with the internal combustion engine!

Yep I can just see you rocking up on that CF, dressed in full black leathers and Rayban shades.
Looking a bit like Marlon Brando in ‘The Wild One’.:joy:
Well maybe from a distance eh?:grin:

Well yes obviously but I was referring to the future when we supposedly end production as the question posed was about the future draw on resource.

Perfect! You’ll love it