Ok you knowledgeable lot…if I start at 8pm …drive approx. 2-3hrs to depot… stop for loading (duration unknown) …then drive another 3-4 hrs to unload (again unknown time)…then back to home approx. 3 hrs. Can I fire some a couple of questions your way
When unloading/loading POA■■? or other work■■? as I wont know how long in advance.
Once loaded I then drive on for approx. 1.5 hrs to take a 45 min (official) rest, if you arrive at a rest stop/sevices in about 1hr 15mins ish and weren’t sure of the road ie how long to next stop etc would you stop slightly early or carry on and put a manual record if slips over as you are finding a safe place to stop ■■?.
I know people have asked these sort of questions over and over… but I havent found anywhere that explains it in nice simple terms or allows for interpretation of terms so you can apply to your specific circumstances. I was suprised how little time was spent on WTD and drivers hours in training and CPC. As a new pass I reckon it could do with at least couple hrs classroom training on just WTD / driver hours and correct tacho modes as part of CPC with a trainer so you can ask specific questions but might be just me lol.
willamy02:
Ok you knowledgeable lot…if I start at 8pm …drive approx. 2-3hrs to depot… stop for loading (duration unknown) …then drive another 3-4 hrs to unload (again unknown time)…then back to home approx. 3 hrs. Can I fire some a couple of questions your way
When unloading/loading POA■■? or other work■■? as I wont know how long in advance.
Once loaded I then drive on for approx. 1.5 hrs to take a 45 min (official) rest, if you arrive at a rest stop/sevices in about 1hr 15mins ish and weren’t sure of the road ie how long to next stop etc would you stop slightly early or carry on and put a manual record if slips over as you are finding a safe place to stop ■■?.
I know people have asked these sort of questions over and over… but I havent found anywhere that explains it in nice simple terms or allows for interpretation of terms so you can apply to your specific circumstances. I was suprised how little time was spent on WTD and drivers hours in training and CPC. As a new pass I reckon it could do with at least couple hrs classroom training on just WTD / driver hours and correct tacho modes as part of CPC with a trainer so you can ask specific questions but might be just me lol.
Thanks
1 = put it on break if not working
2 = stop early - you do not lose driving time for the shift
3 = do a 7 hour driver cpc course on the regs with a GOOD provider
willamy02:
Ok you knowledgeable lot…if I start at 8pm …drive approx. 2-3hrs to depot… stop for loading (duration unknown) …then drive another 3-4 hrs to unload (again unknown time)…then back to home approx. 3 hrs. Can I fire some a couple of questions your way
When unloading/loading POA■■? or other work■■? as I wont know how long in advance.
Once loaded I then drive on for approx. 1.5 hrs to take a 45 min (official) rest, if you arrive at a rest stop/sevices in about 1hr 15mins ish and weren’t sure of the road ie how long to next stop etc would you stop slightly early or carry on and put a manual record if slips over as you are finding a safe place to stop ■■?.
I know people have asked these sort of questions over and over… but I havent found anywhere that explains it in nice simple terms or allows for interpretation of terms so you can apply to your specific circumstances. I was suprised how little time was spent on WTD and drivers hours in training and CPC. As a new pass I reckon it could do with at least couple hrs classroom training on just WTD / driver hours and correct tacho modes as part of CPC with a trainer so you can ask specific questions but might be just me lol.
Thanks
1 = put it on break if not working
2 = stop early - you do not lose driving time for the shift
3 = do a 7 hour driver cpc course on the regs with a GOOD provider
All above correct. Especially Rog`s comment to get a good understanding of the rules. A course will be an investment in protecting your licence.
There is a tension in hours/breaks/pay however: presumably like all of us you need want to earn the max wages possible doing a legal job, and some companies pay structures are not helpful. If you are paid per shift, or salaried then you can book a lot of breaks and not be financially penalised, but some companies will only pay “necessary” breaks. They may dock pay for breaks they deem “un-necessary”. This means some drivers will try to keep breaks to a minimum to maximise pay and get an earlier shift finish.
As a newbie youre better off erring on the side of safety, to protect your licence. Maybe take more breaks than an experienced driver would, but listen to any others on the same company to learn how the job works "in the real world". Listen to all of em, but try to listen out for exaggeration and downright lies! Most drivers will try to help out, but some will only try to make themselves seem bigger.
Get your head around the rules. That is a must.
Watch what others are doing around you regards hours/breaks. Dont blindly copy them, but ask why theyre doing that job that particular way. Always the option to ask here again.
Franglais:
All above correct. Especially Rog`s comment to get a good understanding of the rules. A course will be an investment in protecting your licence.
There is a tension in hours/breaks/pay however: presumably like all of us you need want to earn the max wages possible doing a legal job, and some companies pay structures are not helpful. If you are paid per shift, or salaried then you can book a lot of breaks and not be financially penalised, but some companies will only pay “necessary” breaks. They may dock pay for breaks they deem “un-necessary”. This means some drivers will try to keep breaks to a minimum to maximise pay and get an earlier shift finish.
As a newbie youre better off erring on the side of safety, to protect your licence. Maybe take more breaks than an experienced driver would, but listen to any others on the same company to learn how the job works "in the real world". Listen to all of em, but try to listen out for exaggeration and downright lies! Most drivers will try to help out, but some will only try to make themselves seem bigger.
Get your head around the rules. That is a must.
Watch what others are doing around you regards hours/breaks. Dont blindly copy them, but ask why theyre doing that job that particular way. Always the option to ask here again.