New jabs on the way, be warned

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Star down under.:

Carryfast:
So you failed as a tradesman, then failed as a truck driver, but now you claim expertise in virology and immunology!
Your loony, conspiracy ramblings are amongst the best evidence for takings the immunisation.

Your definition of ‘failed’ as a truck driver is as accurate as your definition of a safe and effective ‘vaccine’.
So passed class 2 ( 1980 more than 2 axles version ) and then class 1 first time.
Then almost 20 years driving rigids and artics and drawbars with a clean record including commendations by my employers’ for safe driving.
Get it right it was my spine that predictably failed the move to a handball loading operation.
So back to the topic I’ve said I couldn’t care less so long as it all remains a matter of choice.
While it’s clear that the whole agenda is all about global control.
My guess is that those like you and Franglais are all about the latter and thereby your real argument is all about compulsion in the matter not choice.

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Juddian:

Carryfast:
Juddian seems to have run off from the argument he started.

No point saying anything here any more CF, as you can see yourself what you get back is personal abuse, they can have as much untested filth as they want injected into their bodies, i’ll not bother any more with the subject which most will be happy about.
For clarity i didn’t start an argument and never wished to there was enough before, i offered some early information that had come my way from a retired micro biologist that something new is coming down the line, couldn’t give a tuppeny one if people take heed or take the stuff inside them, the info was offered as a heads up and majorly rejected as rubbish, that’s fine.

On the main page is a thread asking why the forums are quiet, this thread gives an inkling why and it isn’t because the site has had technical issues.

Unfortunately we won’t stop the control freak agenda and it’s proponents by ignoring it/them whether it’s their tree and nuke fuelled energy control utopia or control over medical procedures.
In this case it’s obvious that they are unhappy because they want the jabs to be a matter of compulsion not choice.
While so long as it remains a matter of choice let them take as much experimental gene therapy as they like.
But we all know what their end game is and they obviously don’t like it when they know that we know.

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Juddian:

Carryfast:
Juddian seems to have run off from the argument he started.

No point saying anything here any more CF, as you can see yourself what you get back is personal abuse, they can have as much untested filth as they want injected into their bodies, i’ll not bother any more with the subject which most will be happy about.
For clarity i didn’t start an argument and never wished to there was enough before, i offered some early information that had come my way from a retired micro biologist that something new is coming down the line, couldn’t give a tuppeny one if people take heed or take the stuff inside them, the info was offered as a heads up and majorly rejected as rubbish, that’s fine.

On the main page is a thread asking why the forums are quiet, this thread gives an inkling why and it isn’t because the site has had technical issues.

It was appreciated by some silent few.

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I’ve said it before, but in summary:

Everyone has a right to believe whatever they want.
Trouble is, if two beliefs happen to be polar opposites, then you’ll then see people acting against those who merely believe something different to themselves.

This is more about a breakdown of society as a whole, rather than about finding fault in any one individual.

I wonder what it would take for someone to actually post something that, instead of critique, ridicule, or even abuse in return - actually got some praise, and expressions of how such “advice” actually helped out…

This thread’s title is “new jabs on the way - be warned”.
How many ARE warned about the dangers, of having ANY jab, that is - the risk inherent in receiving an injection from a person that used to be qualified medically at least to “SEN” Level (Green Belt Nurses) to nowadays when it seems to be people dressed rather more like orderlies that are doing such work?

If one in a thousand injections get “botched” then you’ve got a potentially life-threatening situation involving blood clots happening - regardless of what actual medication is in the syringe.
Air Bubbles, contaminated saline, dusty syringes, or even residule germs like MRSA - must all surely take SOME kind of statistical toll on the recipiant of daily injection quotas, especially something mass-rolled-out like dishing Covid jabs to millions of people over such a short period happened to be…

This isn’t a “Conspiracy” argument then: It is just a warning to take a look at the statistics, which is what I think Juddian was intending here.
“You make a choice, and you take your chances”.

Each unto their own - as to what one’s “risk profile” happens to be:

Persons like myself consider there to be more risk IN taking what could be a totally unneccesary jab - than in taking everything offered “Free” by the NHS…

As for the “Conspiracy” angle, if I make one:

“Fauci having saved more people than harmed” - Yeh right, and I’m the Pope!

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Winseer:
I’ve said it before, but in summary:

Everyone has a right to believe whatever they want.
Trouble is, if two beliefs happen to be polar opposites, then you’ll then see people acting against those who merely believe something different to themselves.

This is more about a breakdown of society as a whole, rather than about finding fault in any one individual.

I wonder what it would take for someone to actually post something that, instead of critique, ridicule, or even abuse in return - actually got some praise, and expressions of how such “advice” actually helped out…

This thread’s title is “new jabs on the way - be warned”.
How many ARE warned about the dangers, of having ANY jab, that is - the risk inherent in receiving an injection from a person that used to be qualified medically at least to “SEN” Level (Green Belt Nurses) to nowadays when it seems to be people dressed rather more like orderlies that are doing such work?

If one in a thousand injections get “botched” then you’ve got a potentially life-threatening situation involving blood clots happening - regardless of what actual medication is in the syringe.
Air Bubbles, contaminated saline, dusty syringes, or even residule germs like MRSA - must all surely take SOME kind of statistical toll on the recipiant of daily injection quotas, especially something mass-rolled-out like dishing Covid jabs to millions of people over such a short period happened to be…

This isn’t a “Conspiracy” argument then: It is just a warning to take a look at the statistics, which is what I think Juddian was intending here.
“You make a choice, and you take your chances”.

Each unto their own - as to what one’s “risk profile” happens to be:

Persons like myself consider there to be more risk IN taking what could be a totally unneccesary jab - than in taking everything offered “Free” by the NHS…

As for the “Conspiracy” angle, if I make one:

“Fauci having saved more people than harmed” - Yeh right, and I’m the Pope!

Winseer, come back to earth for a short while. Is Medway the planet you come from, or an area in England? I’m suspecting the latter and despite the inhospitable climate, I’m sure it’s not a third world country.
You’ve got a better chance of winning the lottery than catching some lurgie from dusty or contaminated needles.
You won’t get blood clots from the needles, the inoculation is administered intramusclularly, not in intravenously.
Judging by your posts, your mental health should be a priority.

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Star down under.:
, the inoculation is administered intramusclularly, not in intravenously.
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The administrator has to withdraw the plunger to see if they have hit a vein in error. They were not instructed to do so, therefore it is only luck not judgement if it is intramusclularly, not in intravenously.

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stu675:

Star down under.:
, the inoculation is administered intramusclularly, not in intravenously.
.

The administrator has to withdraw the plunger to see if they have hit a vein in error. They were not instructed to do so, therefore it is only luck not judgement if it is intramusclularly, not in intravenously.

For nearly twenty years the NHS has not used the “aspiration technique” whereby the plunger is withdrawn during intramuscular injection. assets.publishing.service.gov.u … pter-4.pdf
This followed on from extensive double blind studies, and is the same position as recommended by the WHO.
Because some older nurses are in the habit of using this method doesnt mean it is a good one. Aspiration has its own hazards and has been shown to cause more pain than non-aspirated injections.
canada.ca/en/public-health/ … tices.html
Although the pain may not be severe it seems a good idea to avoid any deterrent to health treatment, and some people do have a phobia of needles.

Why increase pain at all, when there are no trials that actually show the theoretical risk of injection into blood vessels?

Adding; youtu.be/Fkip8anpIbs?si=PM_hK0AQY-RUJFvf

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The antivaxxers always assume that we all agree with them.I find that annoying.

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Sploom:
The antivaxxers always assume that we all agree with them.I find that annoying.

But it ain’t a Vax at best it’s an experimental gene therapy with known implications.
At worse it’s something far more sinister, bearing in mind how and where the narrative, thereby creating the pretext behind it, originated.Also how western governments seemed all too needlessly keen to import that narrative and pretext.In the form of laughable lockdowns for us at home but free movement for China.
Who’s assuming what ?.
While how and more importantly why, do you try conflate even just questioning the mechanics of so called conventional attenuated/disabled virus type 'vaccines and the idea that all medication should be a matter of informed choice, as supposedly being the same thing as ‘anti’.
Bearing in mind the question why the need for mRNA gene therapy technology in this case why not conventional vaccines ?.

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Juddian:

Carryfast:
Juddian seems to have run off from the argument he started.

No point saying anything here any more CF, as you can see yourself what you get back is personal abuse, they can have as much untested filth as they want injected into their bodies, i’ll not bother any more with the subject which most will be happy about.
For clarity i didn’t start an argument and never wished to there was enough before, i offered some early information that had come my way from a retired micro biologist that something new is coming down the line, couldn’t give a tuppeny one if people take heed or take the stuff inside them, the info was offered as a heads up and majorly rejected as rubbish, that’s fine.

On the main page is a thread asking why the forums are quiet, this thread gives an inkling why and it isn’t because the site has had technical issues.

Personal attacks are the only real arguments that this whole dodgy agenda has in its armoury when they are called out on their obvious ideas for forced medication and the motivation for it.
That agenda clearly doesn’t and won’t stop at just pushing this experimental biotech.Bearing in mind the medical regime having to admit to abuse of the palliative care protocols with only one logical conclusion.
There’s nothing to be gained by running away from them.

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Been smoking the drapes again, Carryfast?

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Star down under.:
Been smoking the drapes again, Carryfast?

The irony from someone who believes that it’s a safe and effective vaccine.The same as any other and which stops infection and transmission of COVID.While the COVID narrative itself means believing everything that the Chinese government says.

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Star down under.:
Been smoking the drapes again, Carryfast?

Is a drape an Aussie joint?

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md1987:

Star down under.:
Been smoking the drapes again, Carryfast?

Is a drape an Aussie joint?

Euphemism for the consumption of any mind altering drugs.

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Carryfast:
for forced medication and the motivation for it

Please explain who is being “forced” to take any medication or a jab?

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tmcassett:

Carryfast:
for forced medication and the motivation for it

Please explain who is being “forced” to take any medication or a jab?

There are plenty of examples in which people were mandated to get jabbed for their jobs or those in care homes with no right to refuse.
While I’ve made it clear that I’m not bothered so long as it is a matter of choice.
But we all know that, like the global warmist agenda, the pro gene therapy agenda isn’t intended to be one of choice and its control freak proponents know it.
If not why all the attacks against those who choose not to buy the pro gene therapy narrative.

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Carryfast:

tmcassett:

Carryfast:
for forced medication and the motivation for it

Please explain who is being “forced” to take any medication or a jab?

There are plenty of examples in which people were mandated to get jabbed for their jobs or those in care homes with no right to refuse.
While I’ve made it clear that I’m not bothered so long as it is a matter of choice.
But we all know that, like the global warmist agenda, the pro gene therapy agenda isn’t intended to be one of choice and its control freak proponents know it.
If not why all the attacks against those who choose not to buy the pro gene therapy narrative.

Well my wife works as a nurse and has not had the vaccine (like myself). Working in the healthcare sector she has come under no pressure, nor any sort of “attacks” as you put it to do so. And no, before you start, neither of us are paranoid that Bill Gates, the imaginary deep state or some “gene therapy” scientist’s are trying to kill us. We have just decided that as fairly fit 40 year olds we don’t need an injection for a mild form of flu (in our age category) and in the same way before March 2020 no-one of our age and condition would have been thinking the flu jab was “essential”

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Carryfast:
There are plenty of examples in which people were mandated to get jabbed for their jobs or those in care homes with no right to refuse.

That was just people jumping on the bandwagon because it was seen as the thing to do at the time. Can you say that is the case now? P.S see my post above this one above for your answer. :wink:

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There’s a big difference between a “Anti Vaxxer” and a “Vax Dodger”.

The latter, like a “Liberal” keeps quiet when they know their political views are going to get them into trouble, or in this case - get grassed up by some “Pro Vaxxer” union rep who wants all those who’ve not been jabbed “Sacked”, let’s say…

Meanwhile, the Anti Vaxxer tries to ram their “Beliefs” down everyone else’s throat…

Actually, I’ve not heard of any firms other than the minor (private jet) Airlines thus far - that refuse to employ people UNLESS they are “Anti Vax” and “Virgin Unjabbed” if you will…

Great effort has been made by the establishment to discredit people who put doubt on the integrity of covid jabs…
…I don’t recall such hostile effort made at any OTHER kind of “Claim” over the years, medically…
Again, you choose what and who to believe, and you take your chances…

If you listen to authority,. and then you suffer premature death with no compenation? - Too bad.

Instead of “Furlough” the government should have said “We’ll pay the mortgage off for anyone who continues to work and refuses to take time off during the lockdown and then subsequently dies”.

Would have cost a lot less that way too!

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tmcassett:

Carryfast:
There are plenty of examples in which people were mandated to get jabbed for their jobs or those in care homes with no right to refuse.

That was just people jumping on the bandwagon because it was seen as the thing to do at the time. Can you say that is the case now? P.S see my post above this one above for your answer. :wink:

Is amazing how few people have the balls to GET sacked - for simply going with what they that individual believes…

Care Worker:
“You can’t make me have the Jab, if I don’t want it. It’s not that I’m anti-vax, I’m just needle phobic, and scant regard has been made to my own private phobias here, which is against my yuman rights for you, my employer to trample over”.

Firm:
Don’t give a toss guy. If you’re not jabbed by next Friday, you’ll be looking for another job!

Care Worker:
“I’m off down the jobcenter right now. Now, if you’d care to sack me right here and now, I’ll not have to pay you severance pay that way…”

Firm:
I’m not sacking you now. I’ll sack you next week for gross misconduct instead.

Care Worker:
Why not right now?

Firm:
I don’t trust you not to sue me for wrongful dismissal - that’s why. “Instant Dismissal” DECLINED!