New EU Rules

New EU drivers’ hours and tachograph rules are being introduced on 20 August, including a requirement for drivers to ‘return home’ every four weeks. The Department for Transport said there will also be a ban on taking regular weekly rest periods in the driver’s vehicle and more flexibility on the scheduling of rest periods for some drivers undertaking international carriage of goods. There will also be new provisions for rests and breaks for drivers when journeys involve transport by ferry […]

This is from Motor Transport magazine in the UK, but i don’t have any information apart from this bit . Anyone else have info ?

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another load of boolocks,

Didn’t we have some time ago from Belgium, then France and then I think the UK
All 45 hr weekend breaks must be taken in a hotel or whatever, but not in the truck, yeah right !
Probably enforced for about a month or so, but hey have a look in the services and lay-byes here in France and the UK, see it when I’m over there
loads of EE trucks parked up not just for a 24/45, but a hell of a lot longer.
Complete buullshine by whoever !!!

Edit to add

I agree with it in principal, but just the normal Euro BS

pierrot 14:
another load of boolocks,

Didn’t we have some time ago from Belgium, then France and then I think the UK
All 45 hr weekend breaks must be taken in a hotel or whatever, but not in the truck, yeah right !
Probably enforced for about a month or so, but hey have a look in the services and lay-byes here in France and the UK, see it when I’m over there
loads of EE trucks parked up not just for a 24/45, but a hell of a lot longer.
Complete buullshine by whoever !!!

Edit to add

I agree with it in principal, but just the normal Euro BS

I think it’s great.

Before the rules said a 24 (reduced weekly rest) could be taken in the truck. By deduction some then said a 45 cannot be taken in the truck which unfortunately didn’t hold up too good under legal scrutiny it seems.

Now under these rules it is explicit, no 45’s in the lorry. :smiley: :smiley:

Excellent flexibility now for those of us that want to get the ferry home at the end of the week instead of being obliged to park up in the docks and “we will send a trailer out to you”…again :frowning: :cry:

And regular domestic guys can now get 2 hours extra if required to get home for the steak on a Friday night.

Most importantly of all is the flagged out fleets of EE super-trampers are in a serious spot of bother as are the those little Blue-assed pallet vans.

What’s not to like… :smiley: :smiley:

Sure they could have done much better as I think 24’s and 45’s are killer breaks and should be dumped.

Let’s face it who can finish a 12-15 hour shift at 9 pm and then get two nights sleep in the next 24 hours before hitting the road again at 9 pm for another 15 hour shift on the flip side of the clock■■? Ditto for a 45 :unamused: :unamused:

Overall it’s a big improvement especially on the abusive treatment of the EE guys and the undermining of economic model of the old Western firms.

Too little and too late for U.K. International Ltd. I fear but certainly Bring it on!! :bulb: :bulb: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Hurryup&wait:

pierrot 14:
another load of boolocks,

Didn’t we have some time ago from Belgium, then France and then I think the UK
All 45 hr weekend breaks must be taken in a hotel or whatever, but not in the truck, yeah right !
Probably enforced for about a month or so, but hey have a look in the services and lay-byes here in France and the UK, see it when I’m over there
loads of EE trucks parked up not just for a 24/45, but a hell of a lot longer.
Complete buullshine by whoever !!!

Edit to add

I agree with it in principal, but just the normal Euro BS

I think it’s great.

Before the rules said a 24 (reduced weekly rest) could be taken in the truck. By deduction some then said a 45 cannot be taken in the truck which unfortunately didn’t hold up too good under legal scrutiny it seems.

Now under these rules it is explicit, no 45’s in the lorry. :smiley: :smiley:

Excellent flexibility now for those of us that want to get the ferry home at the end of the week instead of being obliged to park up in the docks and “we will send a trailer out to you”…again :frowning: :cry:

And regular domestic guys can now get 2 hours extra if required to get home for the steak on a Friday night.

Most importantly of all is the flagged out fleets of EE super-trampers are in a serious spot of bother as are the those little Blue-assed pallet vans.

What’s not to like… :smiley: :smiley:

Sure they could have done much better as I think 24’s and 45’s are killer breaks and should be dumped.

Let’s face it who can finish a 12-15 hour shift at 9 pm and then get two nights sleep in the next 24 hours before hitting the road again at 9 pm for another 15 hour shift on the flip side of the clock■■? Ditto for a 45 :unamused: :unamused:

Overall it’s a big improvement especially on the abusive treatment of the EE guys and the undermining of economic model of the old Western firms.

Too little and too late for U.K. International Ltd. I fear but certainly Bring it on!! :bulb: :bulb: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

This legislation has been watered down from the original under pressure from the EE block, which stated that HGV’s would have to return to country of origin many of the big players already bus their drivers home after 4 or 6 weeks so no change really in that regard. How do you enforce it? How can you prove that a driver did or did not go home if he parks the lorry up Friday afternoon and then restarts Tuesday morning how can you prove where he went? Too little too late

This article is from the TRM 24 French transport site. This Belgian group is flying Romanian drivers into Belgium, paying Romanian wages and are being taken to court by the Belgian tax authorities for non payment of social charges.

Déjà soupçonné de concurrence déloyale et de dumping social, le transporteur Jost est au cœur d’une nouvelle affaire révélée par la presse belge. Le groupe affrèterait tous les 15 jours un avion pour acheminer près de 180 conducteurs roumains. Le syndicat CSC Transcom a décidé de porter l’affaire devant la justice.

Jost serait-il devenu tour-opérateur spécialisé dans le rapatriement de routiers de l’Est ? En tout cas, tout est réglé comme du papier à musique. Tous les 15 jours, le dimanche matin, un avion avec à bord entre 160 et 180 conducteurs roumains décolle de Bucarest (capitale de la Roumanie) avant d’atterrir à Maastricht, dans le sud des Pays-Bas. De là, ils sont acheminés par autocar sur le site de Herstal de Jost, près de Liège, distant de 45 kilomètres seulement. Juste à temps, pour prendre le volant d’un des camions qui les attendent. Le syndicat a mené sa propre enquête, photos et vidéos à l’appui.

L’affaire est rentable pour le transporteur. Les conducteurs roumains sont payés entre 550 et 600 euros mensuels alors que les routiers belges coûtent à leur employeur près de 5 000 euros (charges comprises). Le calcul est rapide. Les conducteurs ont tous été recrutés par la société Skiptrans située dans le nord-ouest de la Roumanie. En 10 ans, elle est passée de 20 conducteurs à 845 aujourd’hui.

En réalité, le syndicat a été averti par des salariés de Jost. « Ils sont au chômage pour raison de Covid-19 et ils voient d’autres chauffeurs rouler ! » a précisé un responsable de la CSC Transcom.

Lors de la révélation de l’affaire, Jost et Skiptrans ont annoncé réfuter « toutes les accusations portées contre eux et réclament le bénéfice de la présomption d’innocence ». Le COVID a bon dos puisque la société roumaine explique qu’en raison de la pandémie le transport par avion est plus sûr que par autocar.

Par ailleurs, le Paquet routier voté cet été par Bruxelles impose que les conducteurs doivent retourner dans leur propre entreprise toutes les 3 ou 4 semaines. Ils ne peuvent pas passer les 45 heures du week-end dans leur camion. L’employeur doit leur payer une chambre d’hôtel. Il s’avère, selon le syndicat, que Jost n’applique aucune règle du Paquet routier. La plupart des conducteurs roulant près d’un mois sans rentrer chez eux.

Les affaires ne s’arrangent pas pour Jost Group. Le transporteur belge est déjà soupçonné de fraude sociale avec un préjudice de l’ordre de 60 millions d’euros pour la sécurité sociale belge et même de trafic d’êtres humains dans ses filiales roumaines et slovaques. Une enquête est actuellement menée par le parquet fédéral. Des dizaines de camions ont été saisis et le patron, Roland Jost, a été placé plusieurs semaines sous mandat d’arrêt.