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UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
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jakethesnake:
You have probably watched him on telly before now as he is a ex professional football player. He has been mentioned on here a few times and certain members
have agreed he gives out good info. Have a look back and you will see.

Let me just say the biggest majority of advanced drivers will go about their driving quietly and efficiently and always being polite and courteous. They will go totally unnoticed to others because they have been trained to a higher standard and know far more than Mr Average.

You know you keep banging on about the poor driving standards are caused by lack of proper training. Well, if all lorry drivers had to do an advanced LGV course they standards would improve dramatically.

It makes me laugh how people (apart from driving) in general hate being told what to do and seem to hate anyone that knows more about a subject than them.
Someone said drivers who do advanced tests are insecure. What a load of tosh. Drivers do it because the basic training and test teaches you very little, yeah the basics and some drivers want to extend their knowledge and become better drivers. I don’t know one single person who had done such a course that says they have not benefited and learned an awful lot.

Anyway I could go on but I wont. :wink:

So who did he play for…Advanced Drivers fc? :smiley:

The few advanced drivers I have came across (‘few’because I tend to avoid them :smiley: ) are Alan Partridge type personalities who usually speak in nasal tones and wear driving gloves. :laughing:
In the pub they say things like ‘Give me a pint of your finest real ale oh Landlord’’,.and ‘‘Not three bad’’ after their first sip. :unamused: cringeworthy
They can clear a bar faster than Stevie Wonder off his ■■■■ on crack walking in with a machine gun’'…terminal bores,.who’s hobbies are train spotting and stamp collecting…you know the type, usually with no friends…or life. :laughing:
How’s that for generalizing… :smiley:

Seriously though…Way I see it us unless you know you are a crap driver,.wtf would possess you to go on an advanced ■■■■ driving course, other than wanting to be a Traffic cop, or work in close protection security.

I certainly do not hate somebody who knows more about stuff, or specifically driving, than me, as you can learn stuff if you are prepared to listen…, as I usually am…
It all depends on how they try and put it across to me,.as I have a zero tolerance towards pompous d/heads tbh. :bulb:

I’m with you on basic training teaching you very little, so as I said this should be addressed to deal with the subject of the thread in this industry,.during or after said training by classroom work…, not by taking a course on how to be like Alan Partridge on your advanced ■■■■ driver certificate.
Here’s Alan’s version of your mate’s vids. :laughing:
youtu.be/d7lTnKElLBw?si=vBfGv6OQjUDo4eTa

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There used to be a member on here who claimed to be an ex police advanced driver turned truck driver, went by the name of ncooper or something like that. He was the most arrogant narcissist one could have the misfortune to meet. Over time he turned out to be the biggest useless tupp of a truck driver, constantly going over his hours, spending many an hour taking the company truck home to carry out repairs himself to the damages he had sustained whilst out on his epic trips. What a bell!

Same gadger then became a transport manager for another company, (heaven forbid working for him). In his case and in my mind a classic case of someone unable to do the job so instead got into a teacher type role.

With this Ashley Neal character with his clever ar5ed attitude I just think of time and karma will be the judge of him.

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I have to side with…

Team ‘those who can do and those who can’t teach’.

On my class 1 test, the examiner directed me off the usual routes. The routes that I’d been learning and was expecting to follow on the day. I passed regardless, the examiner saying that he sometimes did that to see if test subjects were drivers or just following orders.

I will confess now that my reverse into the box was perfect only because the instructor that taught us said that when he raised his cup of coffee up, that was the time to stop and you’d be perfectly in the box. I did almost the whole manoeuvre looking hard left into the break area at the test centre.

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Doing the I.A.M. course is i m o a good idea for new drivers in particular. You will increase your knowledge base and possibly get cheaper motor insurance.

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jakethesnake:
Let me just say the biggest majority of LORRY drivers will go about their driving quietly and efficiently and always being polite and courteous. They will go totally unnoticed to others because they have been trained to a higher standard and know far more than Mr Average.
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Edited to add the balance that always seems to be lacking.

Although in your defence Jake if you did take a balanced view you’d have nothing to write about save tulips, canals and funny cigarettes :smiley:

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alamcculloch:
Doing the I.A.M. course is i m o a good idea for new drivers in particular. You will increase your knowledge base and possibly get cheaper motor insurance.

Older drivers can increase their knowledge too but most choose not to bother.

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I would ban high-powered motorcycles and cars that are too fast for the public highway.

For the ones speeding down the road, leave a bit earlier ffs. But therein lies the problem, people want to be in a hurry.

I’ve said it before, but those speeding past probably don’t try and nip in front of you in the supermarket queue or run down the aisles, but somehow getting in a car makes them feel okay about cutting you up.

Jakey is the world’s worst for trying to bait people in, but I don’t think his post was actually specifying truck drivers, whereas that is the way some seem to have taken it.

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the maoster:

jakethesnake:
Let me just say the biggest majority of LORRY drivers will go about their driving quietly and efficiently and always being polite and courteous. They will go totally unnoticed to others because they have been trained to a higher standard and know far more than Mr Average.
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Edited to add the balance that always seems to be lacking.

Although in your defence Jake if you did take a balanced view you’d have nothing to write about save tulips, canals and funny cigarettes :smiley:

I am disappointed in you maoster. Even you know that is far from the truth. Just been out in my brothers car for a message. On a 40 limit dual carriageway sticking to the limit.
A truck overtakes at higher speed which I have no problem with but the D/head comes right up close to the rear of my vehicle swings and out at the last minute to pass.
That was a 20 minute journey and this is what happens. Did the driver realise he was a ■■■■, probably not , does it day in day out. Absolutely no need for it.

We are travelling to London tomorrow and doubt I will see a poor display from many drivers as I usually do. Poor lane disipline, pulling in and out of lanes very suddenly with little warning, plenty tailgating and no doubt a bit of elephant racing. Yeah all perfect. :unamused:

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Noremac:
I would ban high-powered motorcycles and cars that are too fast for the public highway.

For the ones speeding down the road, leave a bit earlier ffs. But therein lies the problem, people want to be in a hurry.

I’ve said it before, but those speeding past probably don’t try and nip in front of you in the supermarket queue or run down the aisles, but somehow getting in a car makes them feel okay about cutting you up.

Jakey is the world’s worst for trying to bait people in, but I don’t think his post was actually specifying truck drivers, whereas that is the way some seem to have taken it.

They think I’m a truck hater but no just a bad driver hater. :imp: :imp: :imp:

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Just to add and explain I drove trucks for 20 years plus with an unblemished record, many driving petrol tankers in London. I did not leave and go into training because I couldn’t drive. I went because I wanted a new challenge which I also enjoyed meeting lots of very interesting people along the way. I didn’t stick at being a basic driving instructor but went on to more interesting types of training.

I would also say if you have never done a particular job you cannot really make any true assumptions about a job which is very clear in some replies.

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jakethesnake:
I am disappointed in you maoster. Even you know that is far from the truth. Just been out in my brothers car for a message. On a 40 limit dual carriageway sticking to the limit.
A truck overtakes at higher speed which I have no problem with but the D/head comes right up close to the rear of my vehicle swings and out at the last minute to pass.
That was a 20 minute journey and this is what happens. Did the driver realise he was a ■■■■, probably not , does it day in day out. Absolutely no need for it.

We are travelling to London tomorrow and doubt I will see a poor display from many drivers as I usually do. Poor lane disipline, pulling in and out of lanes very suddenly with little warning, plenty tailgating and no doubt a bit of elephant racing. Yeah all perfect. :unamused:

These long journeys must be pretty stressful for you, with all the driver marshalling, supervision and verbal criticising en route that you no doubt do Jakey.
(Btw…Still imagining you kitted out with like the Alan Partridge vid, hands free phone kit like a Thunderbirds pilot :laughing: )

How many passengers do you have on these runs Jake?
Do they draw lots for sitting in the front with you?..(loser sits in front. :smiley: )
Do you find they all tend to have their headphones on listening to their music, drowning you out, during the journey?
I bet you are an absolute pleasure to travel with. :laughing:

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jakethesnake:
I am disappointed in you maoster. Even you know that is far from the truth:

Which bit is far from the truth?

In actual fact I agree with you Jake; standards of driving displayed by a huge percentage of lorry drivers is at best abysmal and at worst downright dangerous. It used to be a few bad apples and now it seems to be the whole bloody barrel. I am however a pragmatist and realise that me ■■■■■■■■ about it is going to result in diddly squat except perhaps it’ll further tarnish the few years driving I have left. I don’t do stress so I block it from my mind and save my worrying for things I can change.

Once again in balance there are droves of highly professional and extremely competent lorry drivers plying their trade daily, but we don’t notice them because they give us no cause to.

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robroy:

jakethesnake:
I am disappointed in you maoster. Even you know that is far from the truth. Just been out in my brothers car for a message. On a 40 limit dual carriageway sticking to the limit.
A truck overtakes at higher speed which I have no problem with but the D/head comes right up close to the rear of my vehicle swings and out at the last minute to pass.
That was a 20 minute journey and this is what happens. Did the driver realise he was a ■■■■, probably not , does it day in day out. Absolutely no need for it.

We are travelling to London tomorrow and doubt I will see a poor display from many drivers as I usually do. Poor lane disipline, pulling in and out of lanes very suddenly with little warning, plenty tailgating and no doubt a bit of elephant racing. Yeah all perfect. :unamused:

These long journeys must be pretty stressful for you, with all the driver marshalling, supervision and verbal criticising en route that you no doubt do Jakey.
(Btw…Still imagining you kitted out with like the Alan Partridge vid, hands free phone kit like a Thunderbirds pilot :laughing: )

How many passengers do you have on these runs Jake?
Do they draw lots for sitting in the front with you?..(loser sits in front. :smiley: )
Do you find they all tend to have their headphones on listening to their music, drowning you out, during the journey?
I bet you are an absolute pleasure to travel with. :laughing:

Nah, don’t let it get to me these days, just shake my head with sadness the way things have changed. Just me and my good Lady this time. We have a right laugh together on our journeys. Rock music blaring, daring to sip coffee and seeing who can notice the dumbest driver.

Anyway down to East London tomorrow for two nights then home to blissful peace and quiet. Magic. We are in a black sprinter with a black box transporter trailer with Dutch plates. It’s hard to miss so if you see us gives a flash or a wave, or maybe achat about doing your advanced test. :wink:

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the maoster:

jakethesnake:
I am disappointed in you maoster. Even you know that is far from the truth:

Which bit is far from the truth?

In actual fact I agree with you Jake; standards of driving displayed by a huge percentage of lorry drivers is at best abysmal and at worst downright dangerous. It used to be a few bad apples and now it seems to be the whole bloody barrel. I am however a pragmatist and realise that me ■■■■■■■■ about it is going to result in diddly squat except perhaps it’ll further tarnish the few years driving I have left. I don’t do stress so I block it from my mind and save my worrying for things I can change.

Once again in balance there are droves of highly professional and extremely competent lorry drivers plying their trade daily, but we don’t notice them because they give us no cause to.

I agree there are still some very good professional drivers still on our roads. I just don’t think I see as many as you unfortunately. :smiley:

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Yeah ^^ that’s the problem with blinkers my friend :wink:

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jakethesnake:
I agree there are still some very good professional drivers still on our roads. I just don’t think I see as many as you unfortunately. :smiley:

That is because you are concentrating on looking for clowns. :bulb:
As I said they stand out more and you tend not to notice the guy minding his own business and driving accordingly.

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jakethesnake:

alamcculloch:
Doing the I.A.M. course is i m o a good idea for new drivers in particular. You will increase your knowledge base and possibly get cheaper motor insurance.

Older drivers can increase their knowledge too but most choose not to bother.

Of course you are correct. How many old ■■■■■ are there who achieved their car licence in a Morris Minor and have literally never looked back! Every day a school day.