cant be arsed to read after the first page HUMANISTIC might have got a mention what sort of person whos done most things uses a thing like that
Possibly an educated one■■? Try reading some of the posts you might learn something… 
So have you had a reply from vosa yet and am i allowed to put my satnav in my windscreen or not if not where do i put if then 
Thank you for your email of 30 January 2009 concerning the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency’s (VOSA) targeted enforcement activities.
VOSA’s enforcement activities are targeted where we believe there is most threat to road safety and the environment. We specifically target heavy goods vehicles on international journeys as evidence shows they are at a high risk of being non-compliant and use intelligence to ensure we focus on the activities of non-compliant operators and so ease the burden on the compliant. The frequency of the checks we may carry out on an operator is determined by our assessment of their likely compliance with road traffic legislation.
Where at a check site it is apparent to a VOSA examiner there may be an immediate road safety issue with a vehicle I would expect the vehicle to be selected for inspection. An open laptop would be considered to meet this criterion, as the view to the front of the vehicle would be restricted, and would cause an examiner to stop the vehicle and issue a prohibition notice.
I understand that the centre table in your Scania is an after market fit which is supplied with an instruction not to use it during transit, as it blocks part of windscreen wiper area. Where my examiners encounter a table that is being used in transit they are currently providing the driver with advice. Technically, however, as this is an offence it could attract a prohibition notice.
The number of vehicles we are able to check as they get off the ferry at Dover is restricted due to the stopping area available to us. While the Turkish and Hungarian vehicles you mention were not stopped at the port they may well have been checked at one of our other sites in the South East. On 30 January we issued over 50 prohibitions, many to non UK vehicles.
I am concerned to learn that someone wearing a VOSA high visibility jacket asked you to stop at Newport Pagnell on 30 January as we do not carry out any static stopping activity on this, or any other, motorway site. Also, the local enforcement office has no record of anyone failing to stop on this date. If you would like to provide me with more detailed information I will investigate this matter further.
I hope this now clarifies matters for you.
Yours sincerely
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Alex Fiddes
Chief Operating Officer
switchlogic:
Thank you for your email of 30 January 2009 concerning the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency’s (VOSA) targeted enforcement activities.VOSA’s enforcement activities are targeted where we believe there is most threat to road safety and the environment. We specifically target heavy goods vehicles on international journeys as evidence shows they are at a high risk of being non-compliant and use intelligence to ensure we focus on the activities of non-compliant operators and so ease the burden on the compliant. The frequency of the checks we may carry out on an operator is determined by our assessment of their likely compliance with road traffic legislation.
Where at a check site it is apparent to a VOSA examiner there may be an immediate road safety issue with a vehicle I would expect the vehicle to be selected for inspection. An open laptop would be considered to meet this criterion, as the view to the front of the vehicle would be restricted, and would cause an examiner to stop the vehicle and issue a prohibition notice.
I understand that the centre table in your Scania is an after market fit which is supplied with an instruction not to use it during transit, as it blocks part of windscreen wiper area. Where my examiners encounter a table that is being used in transit they are currently providing the driver with advice. Technically, however, as this is an offence it could attract a prohibition notice.
The number of vehicles we are able to check as they get off the ferry at Dover is restricted due to the stopping area available to us. While the Turkish and Hungarian vehicles you mention were not stopped at the port they may well have been checked at one of our other sites in the South East. On 30 January we issued over 50 prohibitions, many to non UK vehicles.
I am concerned to learn that someone wearing a VOSA high visibility jacket asked you to stop at Newport Pagnell on 30 January as we do not carry out any static stopping activity on this, or any other, motorway site. Also, the local enforcement office has no record of anyone failing to stop on this date. If you would like to provide me with more detailed information I will investigate this matter further.
I hope this now clarifies matters for you.
Yours sincerely
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Alex Fiddes
Chief Operating Officer
Hmmm. Looks like an open and shut case to me !!
I am concerned to learn that someone wearing a VOSA high visibility jacket asked you to stop at Newport Pagnell on 30 January as we do not carry out any static stopping activity on this, or any other, motorway site.
What a load of BS! I got stopped at Corley services northbound about 3 months ago…only wanted a coffee 
We can stop vehicles on the motorway for safety reasons, we do so without a blue light or warrant card.
Since when, only a police officer in full unifornhas that power.
Since last year Dave. VOSA have powers to stop now. I forget the actual date, but Google is your friend.
davemackie:
We can stop vehicles on the motorway for safety reasons, we do so without a blue light or warrant card.
Since when, only a police officer in full unifornhas that power.
Read the Traffic Management Act 2004. That gives us the authority to stop vehicles, it is also an offence to ignore our directions under the same act.
VOSA operate under Section 66 (A) of The Road Traffic Act 1988 and the basics are we can Stop and Direct, ask for licences and instigate conduct and appear in proceedings…there is more 
And it is indeed an offence to stop.
Powers to Stop come from a local police authority, so in theory a Chief Constable could refuse authorisation…but they dont! Scotland is a different matter as they dont have Powers To Stop which is something they are working on. I should imagine it would put a strain on most Police Forces nowadays if they had to supply officers at every road check.
TWINFLAGS:
So have you had a reply from vosa yet and am i allowed to put my satnav in my windscreen or not if not where do i put if then :In the bin, a proper trucker wouldn’t need one.
RIPPER:
I am concerned to learn that someone wearing a VOSA high visibility jacket asked you to stop at Newport Pagnell on 30 January as we do not carry out any static stopping activity on this, or any other, motorway site.
What a load of BS! I got stopped at Corley services northbound about 3 months ago…only wanted a coffee
Looks like the office clerk has no clue as to whats happening out on the road, I have been checked at Grantham and South Mimms whilst entering the lorry park and have watched others being pulled over at Corley. Was also asked to go the checking area whilst parked up for the night at London Gateway services but as I had already pulled my card and was on daily rest I asked him to come back when I started my next shift at 5am the following day!
On one stop the VOSA bod told me about “stopping officers”, these guys have the same powers as police to stop vehicles and are usually in VOSA 4WD vehicles with “Follow Me” signs in the back.
Martin:
On one stop the VOSA bod told me about “stopping officers”, these guys have the same powers as police to stop vehicles and are usually in VOSA 4WD vehicles with “Follow Me” signs in the back.
VOSA are only using Ford Galaxy at the moment supplied from Ford Special Vehicles
Not sure if this has been covered yet, but after a very recent chat.
If a Truck is given a 45 hr prohibition notice by VOSA (for hours offences maybe ?) and the truck then leaves within that period.
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What is the likely penalty/infringement.
2 What diference does it make if the truck is from a far western
Eu state. Is it held at port next time of entry ? -
I would have though the 45 hr prohibition if for drivers hours technically, applies to a driver, not a vehicle, what’s to stop a replacement driver sliding across on a short fastcat trip with a fellow countryman, or do Vosa have to lift the prohibition. i couldn’t see Vosa turning out at say 6am on a sun am to do that at the end of the hours.
I would of asked the all knowing ROG but i didn’t want to wake him up if he’s on a rest break. 
The penalty of breaking a PG9 Prohibition is a £5000 fine. That is if you get caught.
If you get a prohibition you cannot be in any company vehicle. You could get your mate to drive the lorry while you follow behind in his private car, as long as it is not a company vehicle. VOSA can do f-all about it.
VOSA dont have to sign off on an hours prohibition. It is lifted automatically when the restriction ends.
The Highway Man:
davemackie:
We can stop vehicles on the motorway for safety reasons, we do so without a blue light or warrant card.
Since when, only a police officer in full unifornhas that power.Read the Traffic Management Act 2004. That gives us the authority to stop vehicles, it is also an offence to ignore our directions under the same act.
How does this apply if the driver that you are asking to stop is carrying a high value load and he/she is instructed by his/her company not to stop for anyone 
Would you’s follow the driver to his /her destination if this is the case
Breaker One-Nine:
The penalty of breaking a PG9 Prohibition is a £5000 fine. That is if you get caught.If you get a prohibition you cannot be in any company vehicle. You could get your mate to drive the lorry while you follow behind in his private car, as long as it is not a company vehicle. VOSA can do f-all about it.
VOSA dont have to sign off on an hours prohibition. It is lifted automatically when the restriction ends.
Your quite right that an hours prohibition automatically lifts itself, however most of the sites that you might get parked up at are 24hours or soon will be, so your departure would be noticed if you left and the local roads policing unit would ■■■■■■ you back to the site the PG9 was issued and the clock would restart. The local RPU takes the most dimmest of views on the offence as well.
In most cases your boss could come up and collect your trailer with another head, anything else would quite likely be classed as “other duties” and be a breach of the PG9 drivers hours prohibition, as you cannot take the rest on the prohibition on the move, private car or not you would be breaking the prohibition issued to you. Its the registration of the vehicle your name and the trailer on the PG9, In most cases Vosa will allow the trailer to be taken, but thats only by agreement, ie if its a perishable, live load.
vosaguy:
Breaker One-Nine:
The penalty of breaking a PG9 Prohibition is a £5000 fine. That is if you get caught.If you get a prohibition you cannot be in any company vehicle. You could get your mate to drive the lorry while you follow behind in his private car, as long as it is not a company vehicle. VOSA can do f-all about it.
VOSA dont have to sign off on an hours prohibition. It is lifted automatically when the restriction ends.
Your quite right that an hours prohibition automatically lifts itself, however most of the sites that you might get parked up at are 24hours or soon will be, so your departure would be noticed if you left and the local roads policing unit would ■■■■■■ you back to the site the PG9 was issued and the clock would restart. The local RPU takes the most dimmest of views on the offence as well.
In most cases your boss could come up and collect your trailer with another head, anything else would quite likely be classed as “other duties” and be a breach of the PG9 drivers hours prohibition, as you cannot take the rest on the prohibition on the move, private car or not you would be breaking the prohibition issued to you. Its the registration of the vehicle your name and the trailer on the PG9, In most cases Vosa will allow the trailer to be taken, but thats only by agreement, ie if its a perishable, live load.
Driving a private car does not come under the scope of other duties. Show me that in the drivers hours rules. If it was a company vehicle then you cannot use it.
If you are parked up you can do what you want as long as you are not working, no matter what the VOSA say.
They may not like it but can do f-all about it.
Breaker One-Nine:
Driving a private car does not come under the scope of other duties. Show me that in the drivers hours rules. If it was a company vehicle then you cannot use it.If you are parked up you can do what you want as long as you are not working, no matter what the VOSA say.
They may not like it but can do f-all about it.
rear of PG9 note 2
In the case of a drivers hours/records prohibition and a number of hours rest has been specified then the vehicle and/or driver must not reccomence work until that period of rest expires.
and from the front - if a person drives or causes or permits a vehicle to be driven in contravention of a prohibition, s/he is guilty of an offence under section 71 a or b of the above act and liable to a fine not exceeding £5000
on the may not like it can do nothing – really ?