Hi all, just had a mate pop round for coffee and he asked me to post this as he has no net access.
He works for a local skip/recycling merchant and has been told he will be taking a load of redundant batteries to somewhere across country. He is concerned about wether or not this is legal bearing in mind he does not have an ADR qualification.
Apparently these are all end of life batteries from scrap cars etc ,and still contain the acid.
Can he do this as it stands or does he need ADR,orange plates etc? Its not just one or two batteries, but a whole trailer load of 'em.
Any help,advice greatly appreciated
TIA
I once pulled a load of scrap batteries in a tilt from nottingham up to darley dale(cant remember the name of the firm but it was just around the corner from bj waters).
I was told in the yard i didnt need the orange plates up so off i trotted.
When i got up to the drop i parked on the lane before you go into the yard, and had a walk down to the office. "Wheres your waste movement order driver?"................................. Erm...... Ill go and ring the office…
“what waste movement order? never heard of it… have a look in the back and see if the irish have put it in there”… so up i clambered into the back of the tilt 
… only to get out again rapidly because of the smell…
Anyway they finally got it sorted between the various offices and i was allowed in… they gave me a respirator type jobby and safety specs! AND everyone on site was wearing one!
So i would say no. you may not need haz but a waste movement order is needed(definetly if from ireland anyway!) And tell him to be EXTREMELY careful if he has to get in the back
No, you don’t. I used to deliver batteries for exide, so it would be a whole lorry full of batteries,but its some strange loop hole type thing that means that you do not need an ADR for them because the acid is in individual recepticals. I think that if the total amount of acid was in one recepticle you would need one, but that is not the case. Im sure its summat like that. No doubt someone more technical will be able to put you right, I did my ADR 5 years ago & can remember asking about it, & being told that I didnt need one. The ADR licence is a joke though…its full of discrepancies like that!
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I hope you don,t mind a post from a newbie as I am awaiting LGV training owing to a carreer change,enfoced I hasten to add. However I was employed by a battery manufacturer in the role of quality engineer and can tell you that you must have ADR and carry waste batteries and a TREM card to transport scrap batteries. We used to scrap off reject batteries all the time and I know the regs regarding them are strict, it is not so much the acid content that is the problem but the lead contained in the plates. This is covered by something called the lead regs which are very strict. If you do move these batteries please be careful that you use the correct PPE and wash your hands properly if you handle anything, and do not take overalls etc home as apart from the hazard to your family is illegal. The recycling plant is most likely H.J Enthoven at Darley Dale.
I hope this is of help to you.
That was it ant . Enthovens
Im having a dizzy blonde moment, I should have added that you dont need an ADR for NEW batteries…doh! 
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and as its end of life you need to be a licensed waste carrier
I think you’ll need to comply with waste handling regs and ADR. Don’t most new batteries come without the acid and have to be filled? Therefore wouldn’t be considered haz.
Just to add… i did have my adr. The office apes told me it wasnt needed though
muckles:
I think you’ll need to comply with waste handling regs and ADR. Don’t most new batteries come without the acid and have to be filled? Therefore wouldn’t be considered haz.
No, the new batteries that we delt with were already filled.But you are right about waste handling regs though…thats a minefield…waaay too complicated for me! 
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Ant:
I hope you don,t mind a post from a newbie as I am awaiting LGV training owing to a carreer change,enfoced I hasten to add. However I was employed by a battery manufacturer in the role of quality engineer and can tell you that you must have ADR and carry waste batteries and a TREM card to transport scrap batteries. We used to scrap off reject batteries all the time and I know the regs regarding them are strict, it is not so much the acid content that is the problem but the lead contained in the plates. This is covered by something called the lead regs which are very strict. If you do move these batteries please be careful that you use the correct PPE and wash your hands properly if you handle anything, and do not take overalls etc home as apart from the hazard to your family is illegal. The recycling plant is most likely H.J Enthoven at Darley Dale.
I hope this is of help to you.
posts from anybody new or not are always welcome Ant,
especially when you can give the definitive answer.
Good luck in your new career
Ant:
I hope you don,t mind a post from a newbieI hope this is of help to you.
It certainly is Ant, and we are always keen to welcome an expert, what with so many crashing about in the dark on here 
Salut, David.
I’ve shifted old car batteries from our local scrap yard to Enthovens, on a flat. You don’t need an ADR but you do require ‘end of life’ and ‘waste movement’ papers that list the number of batteries carried etc.
Destroyed many a pair of jeans on this job and never want to overnight outside the premises again! The smell is sickly 
I agree that it is daft not needing an ADR though.
John
So no ADR,but does need some sort of official paperwork. Thanks everyone who replied . and yes, he did mention Darley dale.
kalm2kaos
Enthovens, I believe, is the only baterry recycling centre in Britain. Come into Darley Dale on the A6 from Derby, through town and past DFS on your left, at traffic lights turn left, signed Enthovens (&rail station), follow road for approx. 1.5miles over bridge and tight S bend and turn right, up hill and Enthovens is up the top on left.
Make sure you have full PP gear, hard hat, hi-viz, steelies etc. Eye protection and mask available at weighbridge.
John[/b]
kalm2kaos:
Hi all, just had a mate pop round for coffee and he asked me to post this as he has no net access.
He works for a local skip/recycling merchant and has been told he will be taking a load of redundant batteries to somewhere across country. He is concerned about wether or not this is legal bearing in mind he does not have an ADR qualification.
Apparently these are all end of life batteries from scrap cars etc ,and still contain the acid.
Can he do this as it stands or does he need ADR,orange plates etc? Its not just one or two batteries, but a whole trailer load of 'em.
Any help,advice greatly appreciated
TIA
the easierst Answer as just Possible
"each Company who loads ADR must employ an ADR-Adviser(In UK since Jan.2004)
The ADR Adviser wil tell ya all and goes Head cutted if he does not or wrong
If a Lable is on must ya have a Paper with all Details including Class,UN Number,Quantity,Pcs,and so
If not ADR must be posted n Bottom of Paper
“Is not ■■■ on Road”
if ADR then
Is ADR Class…on the Road
Paper must be dated,signed and Company stamp on
If not then is the Transport=illegal 
cornish trucker:
kalm2kaosEnthovens, I believe, is the only baterry recycling centre in Britain. Come into Darley Dale on the A6 from Derby, through town and past DFS on your left, at traffic lights turn left, signed Enthovens (&rail station), follow road for approx. 1.5miles over bridge and tight S bend and turn right, up hill and Enthovens is up the top on left.
Make sure you have full PP gear, hard hat, hi-viz, steelies etc. Eye protection and mask available at weighbridge.
John[/b]
It aint me thats going 
but will pass the directions on to my mate who IS going at some point,though he really isn’t happy doing it.
Fred,thanks for your thoughts