After reading the OPs post and the replies since, one thing is abundantly clear.
Dont ask specialist legal advice on a forum. Go see an expert
Can I suggest you post on Pepipoo.com and you’ll have an answer within 15 minutes.
Get the print out ASAP. Find out if the vehicle is tracked. Call and ask for the evidence (They don’t need to give you it).
3 wheeler:
Hope it was not in Scotland as its points without a doubt …I have been waiting for ten days for a NIP to arrive from Scotland, only 4 more to go to get away with it !
Sorry to rain on you’re parade, the NIP has to be generated within 14 days not delivered within 14.
Always check the date of the NIP against the actual date of the offence, you can start to rest easy after 6-8 weeks however this is not 100% guaranteed.
cambs-police.co.uk/roadsafet … -roads.pdf
Scroll to section 9.6, speeds at or above in the column far right and you will need to seek specialist legal advice as you are in danger of disqualification particularly if you have a history of speeding or are at risk from totting up.
mike68:
3 wheeler:
Hope it was not in Scotland as its points without a doubt …I have been waiting for ten days for a NIP to arrive from Scotland, only 4 more to go to get away with it !Sorry to rain on you’re parade, the NIP has to be generated within 14 days not delivered within 14.
Always check the date of the NIP against the actual date of the offence, you can start to rest easy after 6-8 weeks however this is not 100% guaranteed.
cambs-police.co.uk/roadsafet … -roads.pdf
No, the NIP must be served within 14 days. Merely “generating” one is not enough. I think you may be confusing this with the six months limitation on proceedings - under which it is true that they only have to start the process within six months, rather than having to actually serve summonses etc.
Gembo:
Quick question to the OP.
Was this a hand held laser gun or a van with the auto job in the back with the flap window open??
Reason I ask is that the hand held devices can be miss used and give false readings, its not unknown.
Dedicated van though is normally 100% bang on.
Hi, thats the thing here, you’ve actually nailed it on the head re different views etc. its was a mobile van, but i was not anywhere near the speed they alledge. So in my view not 100%!!
Here, i no i was not, 100% for reasons ive said, i admit if if was not for the fact i had my medical that day i can hand on heart tell you i would not have a clue what i done last week! But this day i remember every aspect.
I can afford the fine and the points, but i cannot stop this feeling that i was not over, and there is 100% nothing i can do about it. Nada, nowt, bugger all!!! Its a bad day.
Thanks everyone for input. Really big thanks
stagedriver:
Can I suggest you post on Pepipoo.com and you’ll have an answer within 15 minutes.Get the print out ASAP. Find out if the vehicle is tracked. Call and ask for the evidence (They don’t need to give you it).
Thanks, Thanks everyone.
Roymondo:
mike68:
3 wheeler:
Hope it was not in Scotland as its points without a doubt …I have been waiting for ten days for a NIP to arrive from Scotland, only 4 more to go to get away with it !Sorry to rain on you’re parade, the NIP has to be generated within 14 days not delivered within 14.
Always check the date of the NIP against the actual date of the offence, you can start to rest easy after 6-8 weeks however this is not 100% guaranteed.
cambs-police.co.uk/roadsafet … -roads.pdfNo, the NIP must be served within 14 days. Merely “generating” one is not enough. I think you may be confusing this with the six months limitation on proceedings - under which it is true that they only have to start the process within six months, rather than having to actually serve summonses etc.
The only obligation upon the Police is to issue the original Notice of Intended Prosecution within 14 days. the delay does not provide you with a technical defence as the Police have 6 months in which to prosecute.
The original NIP may have been sent to the registered keeper or the company to identify the driver, he/she may only become aware of an offence after 14 days.
You can ask for evidence such as pictures or calibration certs or you can spend £200+ on a brief, personally I would attend the course for £80 and be done with it.
They have heard it all before you can contest it and the chances of result are small and if it goes the other way you will be paying for their time and trouble.
How do know this? my NIP came 6 weeks after the event in 2009, result 28 day ban and a sizeable fine for 56 in a 30.
The first NIP must be served on the registered keeper within 14 days not simply issued ( yes there are certain exemptions but let’s not over complicate this thread).
Sorry but tacho will not save you happened to me last year caught doing a so called 54 in 40 checked tacho it said 38 so send it off with letter saying their equipment was wrong had reply saying they wouldn’t take tacho as evidence as speed cameras are linked to gmt and tachos are not so could be faked
have a read
dri-diddly-iver:
Ring them and ask for photographic evidence of the alleged speeding offence. Without that they can’t do a thing, and if it has been worked out wrong that will also be clear.My mate had this some years ago, evidence was inconclusive (think that was the word) no case!
Yes, you can request photographic evidence as they have to prove you were speeding.
If you say nowt and accept the fine, that’s their word without them coming up with any evidence.
A copper friend of mine, (Yeah really), told me if you have ANY doubt, ask for a photo, and proof of calibration for their camera.
He did tell me of some acquaintance of his who had some doubt as to his alleged offence, and when he asked for a photo, the quality was so poor it could not be proven that he was speeding!
G79:
Sorry but tacho will not save you happened to me last year caught doing a so called 54 in 40 checked tacho it said 38 so send it off with letter saying their equipment was wrong had reply saying they wouldn’t take tacho as evidence as speed cameras are linked to gmt and tachos are not so could be faked
Evening G79:
Thanks, i see your letter. Your on same page as me, very very frustrating is an understatement. You no your not speeding, in your case you have proof yet mothing can be done. Its crazy. Makes you think whats the point? If you go past at a legal speed limit you can still get done, and cant change it?? WTF!!!
Cheers
Mad mate can be done on tacho evidence but can’t use it as defence when needed
bestbooties:
dri-diddly-iver:
Ring them and ask for photographic evidence of the alleged speeding offence. Without that they can’t do a thing, and if it has been worked out wrong that will also be clear.My mate had this some years ago, evidence was inconclusive (think that was the word) no case!
Yes, you can request photographic evidence as they have to prove you were speeding.
If you say nowt and accept the fine, that’s their word without them coming up with any evidence.
A copper friend of mine, (Yeah really), told me if you have ANY doubt, ask for a photo, and proof of calibration for their camera.
He did tell me of some acquaintance of his who had some doubt as to his alleged offence, and when he asked for a photo, the quality was so poor it could not be proven that he was speeding!
Cool, im just worried about the time limit. I have just sent back the NIP, so will be waiting there reply, which is a conditional offer. I have a choice of accepting it, pay fine or course or go court. I think you have 14 days to reply to that, i could be wrong. Can, and do i have time to send letter and ask for photos before filling out form? I mean if i get photos im 100% sure im not over limit, but if they stick to there guns as above will i have time to say bugger you ill do the course? Although im really really seething i cannot prove anything, even with taco so with fingers crossed and grudgingly would sit the safety course.
Its a real real bad one, if the camera lies, i no its probably not often, bit im right in thinking you get a criminal record? And for us professionals that 3 points could spell disaster…
Thanks guys
G79:
Mad mate can be done on tacho evidence but can’t use it as defence when needed
Crazy!! Glad to be back at work today, yesterday i was at home cursing the ‘System’ all day!!
I was going to fight it but if it goes to court and you lose the traffic commissioner finds out and he or she can ban you or revoke your license anyway so I just paid fine and took the points, gutted
Rutty555:
bestbooties:
dri-diddly-iver:
Ring them and ask for photographic evidence of the alleged speeding offence. Without that they can’t do a thing, and if it has been worked out wrong that will also be clear.My mate had this some years ago, evidence was inconclusive (think that was the word) no case!
Yes, you can request photographic evidence as they have to prove you were speeding.
If you say nowt and accept the fine, that’s their word without them coming up with any evidence.
A copper friend of mine, (Yeah really), told me if you have ANY doubt, ask for a photo, and proof of calibration for their camera.
He did tell me of some acquaintance of his who had some doubt as to his alleged offence, and when he asked for a photo, the quality was so poor it could not be proven that he was speeding!Cool, im just worried about the time limit. I have just sent back the NIP, so will be waiting there reply, which is a conditional offer. I have a choice of accepting it, pay fine or course or go court. I think you have 14 days to reply to that, i could be wrong. Can, and do i have time to send letter and ask for photos before filling out form? I mean if i get photos im 100% sure im not over limit, but if they stick to there guns as above will i have time to say bugger you ill do the course? Although im really really seething i cannot prove anything, even with taco so with fingers crossed and grudgingly would sit the safety course.
Its a real real bad one, if the camera lies, i no its probably not often, bit im right in thinking you get a criminal record? And for us professionals that 3 points could spell disaster…
Thanks guys
Sorry but it’s not cool it’s just ■■■■■■■■ and plain man in the pub ■■■■■■■■, go to pepipoo and get proper advice from people who know what they are talking about, you might not like what they tell you but it will be decent accurate advice not total guff.
if your on good terms with your boss,then its not unheard of for jakobski kawalski to have been driving for that 1 day before he dumped the truck somewhere before disappearing back to flipflop land.worth a bottle of his favourite hooch? knowing and proving are 2 different things. 
By the letter, it says the calibration is done every 12 months … I assumed the tacho head was calibrated … and was checked regular to? therefore they are saying that your tacho head is not legally calibrated … and it your tacho head was showing 30 and they claim 38 … it surely means a defective tacho which you put a defect in for …
As you are not an expert you can only guestimate your speed.
write to the police dealing with this and under the data protection act ask them for all information help on you … they are legally obliged to supply as such.
Tacho was calibrated but their saying because it’s not linked to gmt like the speed cameras they can’t be used to safe you from a speeding ticket as the time on tacho head could be different to the time on the speed cameras