MK1 & MK11 Atkinsons,a class on their own

Retired Old ■■■■:
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From me mate bubbs

There’s a better shot of it that somebody posted on the South Wales thread

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Hi All

Heres a few Chassis numbers from above :-

MEC290P–FC29176
MEC291P–FC29675

KFT511P–FC29938–T3448xb
Sadly couldnt find anything for FC29940

Sadly i could find one for KHG920P…SED/Atki 400 either

But i did find another early Sed Atki 400…HHM144N–FC30105…New to Waitrose,theres a piccy of it in the new Sed Atki Book…

Cheers
Paul

paul allen:
Hi All

Heres a few Chassis numbers from above :-

MEC290P–FC29176
MEC291P–FC29675

KFT511P–FC29938–T3448xb
Sadly couldnt find anything for FC29940

Sadly i could find one for KHG920P…SED/Atki 400 either

But i did find another early Sed Atki 400…HHM144N–FC30105…New to Waitrose,theres a piccy of it in the new Sed Atki Book…

Cheers
Paul

Thanks for those chassis nos.Paul ! Any chance you could locate the C/nos of MEC 98K,NEC 260K and OJM 480L ? IIRC they started FC 20 ?,these were the first 3 new Atkys I bought at Bewick Transport,there were a number of others both new and secondhand but these three were first! Thanks again,Dennis.

240 Gardner:

malc step:

fryske:
Actually - found it in a post by Marky on another thread:

marky:
I’ve managed to find the pictures I was on about earlier, and here’s the wagon in question - with the 400s following it down the line. The chassis number 29941 can be seen chalked on the bumper.

Hi Folks,
Dennis probably had that first Seddon Atkinson tractor unit he bought from
K.Fell reg no NHG 920P.
Cheers Malc.

There were some N-plate examples out there, though

Thats a nice shot of the K.Fell Sed/Atk when it was new,this was the last new motor that joined the Fell fleet in Dec '75 it was sold to them by Hardman Bros. of Bamber Bridge,six months later we bought Fells out in June '76.The only thing that spoils that shot is the atrocious state of the sheets and the “rough” sheeting and roping job which was never one of Fells strong points,we sorted through their sheets PDQ when we took over and slung a lot into the skip they were so bad and our shunters soon improved the tidiness of the Libby loads leaving Milnthorpe depot ! I sold that Sed/Atk in Jan '77 replacing it with a new F88.That Sed/Atk was the one and only time we ran a 250 ■■■■■■■ or any ■■■■■■■ above a 220! Cheers Bewick.

VALKYRIE:
Atkinson Searcher L2466XB Drive-On-bodied 6x2 or 6x4 Lorry,Q966 AVO.
F.B.Atkins,Findern,Derby.

As can be seen from this linked photograph:-

flickr.com/photos/22041090@N … 53751@N06/

This Atkinson used to transport Atkins’ restored and preserved1934 Foden S-Type DG6,NG 6631,FINDONIAN. Painted in a light brown,with red,dark brown and white relief,livery this Foden pulled a matching a 4-wheeler Drawbar Trailer:-

flickr.com/photos/foden_djp/ … 53751@N06/

Both this Foden lorry and its trailer have high-sided bodies complete with conveyer belt-type floors!
In 2006 it was sold at an auction for £41,475!

In one of the latest historic commercial vehicle magazines,Atkins advertise their circa 1932-34 Foden 4-wheeler lorry,complete with it’s Dorman diesel engine!

What I would like to know,please,is what became of the Atkinson transporter? Do Atkins still own it?,or is it now preserved by somebody else?

Another photograph of the Atkinson Searcher,Q966 AVO:-

flickr.com/photos/dscn8785/5 … 53751@N06/

VALKYRIE

Atkinson Searcher,Q966 AVO/NR 9185,Atkins - Where Is It Now?

Here is another photograph of the Atkinson Searcher,Q966 AVO,that was owned by F.B.Atkins,Findern,Derby,who used this Atkinson to transport their Foden S-Type DG6 4-wheeler Lorry,NG 6631,FINDONIAN,of 1934:-

flickr.com/photos/foden_djp/6258438070/

Aye,aye :astonished: (as in the surprise and intrigue meaning of the phrase),I’ve just discovered another photograph of this Atkinson Searcher,but it’s registered NR 9185! :exclamation: :-

flickr.com/photos/foden_djp/ … 821406@N24

DVLA details:-
The enquiry is complete.
The vehicle details for Q966 AVO are:
Date of Liability 01 04 1997
Date of First Registration 01 01 1988
Year of Manufacture 1988
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 10454cc

VALKYRIE

Hi Dennis

Ive searched for the 3 reg numbers you’ve listed,Sadly none have turned up on DVLA site and i carnt find any Chassis Numbers for them either…Sorry About that :frowning:

Cheers
Paul

paul allen:
Hi Dennis

Ive searched for the 3 reg numbers you’ve listed,Sadly none have turned up on DVLA site and i carnt find any Chassis Numbers for them either…Sorry About that :frowning:

Cheers
Paul

Many thanks anyway Paul,I do recall that both MEC 98K and NEC 260K were sold on to Leyland Paints after they left our ownership,they were used for transfering their product from Factory to warehouse.I can’t just recall what happened to OJM 480L,although it did remain in the fleet for many more years finally ending up on a short distance,very lucrative job,transfering woodpulp between store and the Mill we hauled for at Milnthorpe! but they were three great tractors and gave us reliable,trouble free service.Cheers Dennis.

Bewick:

240 Gardner:

malc step:

fryske:
Actually - found it in a post by Marky on another thread:

marky:
I’ve managed to find the pictures I was on about earlier, and here’s the wagon in question - with the 400s following it down the line. The chassis number 29941 can be seen chalked on the bumper.

Hi Folks,
Dennis probably had that first Seddon Atkinson tractor unit he bought from
K.Fell reg no NHG 920P.
Cheers Malc.

There were some N-plate examples out there, though

Thats a nice shot of the K.Fell Sed/Atk when it was new,this was the last new motor that joined the Fell fleet in Dec '75 it was sold to them by Hardman Bros. of Bamber Bridge,six months later we bought Fells out in June '76.The only thing that spoils that shot is the atrocious state of the sheets and the “rough” sheeting and roping job which was never one of Fells strong points,we sorted through their sheets PDQ when we took over and slung a lot into the skip they were so bad and our shunters soon improved the tidiness of the Libby loads leaving Milnthorpe depot ! I sold that Sed/Atk in Jan '77 replacing it with a new F88.That Sed/Atk was the one and only time we ran a 250 ■■■■■■■ or any ■■■■■■■ above a 220! Cheers Bewick.

This was the improved image we gave Fells,which included J.B.Hudson Ltd., after years of decline prior to our buy out !

fryske:

Bewick:

Casual Observer:
Life seems just a little unfair at times Dennis . It seems that your Borderers are not candidates after all , the last one would seem to be the one now in the livery of M A Evans , & just a little salt for the wound , they are also said to have had a Guy Big J 8LXB Tractor Unit :open_mouth: :astonished: :unamused:

Wey! Hey! away we go again “CO”,this M.A.Evans outfit seem to be in at the “death/kill” of any motor that has a dubious provenance !! How many motors did this firm operate by the way and did they purchase the Atky “new”?,did they operate nationally or just around their local area ? Oh! and what was the chassis No. of this very last Borderer tractor they ran ? The 8 wheeler has it’s chassis no. quite clearly chalked on the bumper so I would expect the M.A. Evans chassis No. to be consecutive,or at least very close!My claim still stands until disproved by cast iron proof,so over to you,shall I hold my breath ? No don’t answer that “CO” !! :unamused: :wink: :astonished: :astonished: Cheers Dennis.

Chassis No: FC.29939

Date first registered in the UK 01/08/1975

Missing one important point there though, Dennis: the chassis number was allocated at the time of order, and not on the shop floor.

An 8LXB-engined motor might well have been ordered some time ahead and have a lower number, whilst motors with the 220 ■■■■■■■ were being built for stock. The photos of the Mk.2 ‘funeral’ do clearly show an 8LXB Borderer, although its identity isn’t shown.

240 Gardner:

fryske:

Bewick:

Casual Observer:
Life seems just a little unfair at times Dennis . It seems that your Borderers are not candidates after all , the last one would seem to be the one now in the livery of M A Evans , & just a little salt for the wound , they are also said to have had a Guy Big J 8LXB Tractor Unit :open_mouth: :astonished: :unamused:

Wey! Hey! away we go again “CO”,this M.A.Evans outfit seem to be in at the “death/kill” of any motor that has a dubious provenance !! How many motors did this firm operate by the way and did they purchase the Atky “new”?,did they operate nationally or just around their local area ? Oh! and what was the chassis No. of this very last Borderer tractor they ran ? The 8 wheeler has it’s chassis no. quite clearly chalked on the bumper so I would expect the M.A. Evans chassis No. to be consecutive,or at least very close!My claim still stands until disproved by cast iron proof,so over to you,shall I hold my breath ? No don’t answer that “CO” !! :unamused: :wink: :astonished: :astonished: Cheers Dennis.

Chassis No: FC.29939

Date first registered in the UK 01/08/1975

Missing one important point there though, Dennis: the chassis number was allocated at the time of order, and not on the shop floor.

An 8LXB-engined motor might well have been ordered some time ahead and have a lower number, whilst motors with the 220 ■■■■■■■ were being built for stock. The photos of the Mk.2 ‘funeral’ do clearly show an 8LXB Borderer, although its identity isn’t shown.

The photos would be interesting to see any chance you will put them on here :sunglasses: or can they be viewed some place :question: :slight_smile:

8LXBV8BRIAN:
The photos would be interesting to see any chance you will put them on here :sunglasses: or can they be viewed some place :question: :slight_smile:

I shall see if I can find them!

Does anyone Know what number Sed Atkis started at?? If they started at FC30000 then that belongs to LRY896P-- 30T 8Wheeler Tipper…

paul allen:
Does anyone Know what number Sed Atkis started at?? If they started at FC30000 then that belongs to LRY896P-- 30T 8Wheeler Tipper…

Hiya Paul,these were the first two Sed/Atks we took delivery of,the first one was an August (IIRC?) 1975 the second was an August 1976 delivery.Both were the same spec, Day cab 8LXB/Fuller 9509/Group axle Ugh! and we ran them both on double shift operation,the main let down being the Seddon group axle which was an absolute nightmare!!The supplying Dealer was Rylands.Cheers Dennis.

240 Gardner:

fryske:

Bewick:

Casual Observer:
Life seems just a little unfair at times Dennis . It seems that your Borderers are not candidates after all , the last one would seem to be the one now in the livery of M A Evans , & just a little salt for the wound , they are also said to have had a Guy Big J 8LXB Tractor Unit :open_mouth: :astonished: :unamused:

Wey! Hey! away we go again “CO”,this M.A.Evans outfit seem to be in at the “death/kill” of any motor that has a dubious provenance !! How many motors did this firm operate by the way and did they purchase the Atky “new”?,did they operate nationally or just around their local area ? Oh! and what was the chassis No. of this very last Borderer tractor they ran ? The 8 wheeler has it’s chassis no. quite clearly chalked on the bumper so I would expect the M.A. Evans chassis No. to be consecutive,or at least very close!My claim still stands until disproved by cast iron proof,so over to you,shall I hold my breath ? No don’t answer that “CO” !! :unamused: :wink: :astonished: :astonished: Cheers Dennis.

Chassis No: FC.29939

Date first registered in the UK 01/08/1975

Missing one important point there though, Dennis: the chassis number was allocated at the time of order, and not on the shop floor.

An 8LXB-engined motor might well have been ordered some time ahead and have a lower number, whilst motors with the 220 ■■■■■■■ were being built for stock. The photos of the Mk.2 ‘funeral’ do clearly show an 8LXB Borderer, although its identity isn’t shown.

You are probably “spot on” there Chris as Atky’s wouldn’t build 8LXB’s for stock,only for firm orders which could have been placed months earlier prior to the launch of the Sed/Atk.The two P reg Atky’s I bought in late '75 were definitely ex stock and their FC chassis numbers were a long way apart as well! Cheers Dennis.

O Yeh I remember this is the MkI & MkII Atkinson thread :wink:

Sepo:
O Yeh I remember this is the MkI & MkII Atkinson thread :wink:

I think my one is longer than yours “Sepo” !! Bewick. :wink:

Bewick:

Sepo:
O Yeh I remember this is the MkI & MkII Atkinson thread :wink:

I think my one is longer than yours “Sepo” !! Bewick. :wink:

First one not an Atki but its a good length.