What’s the score with them? Do they come under C&U regs like civilian ones? Can the ministry pull them over and prohibit them? Do they come under tacho rules when on normal duties?
I’m only guessing but doubt the ministry have any jurisdiction, it’s not like they are competing in hire and reward markets.
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The simple answer is YES if tachograph equipment is fitted for example, if the fleet is operated by a civilian Haulage company like FTX in accordance with the Operators licence. If the fleet is owned and operated by the MOD then Soldiers, Sailors and Airman do not require a tachograph or equivalent. What there do have is a log book, referred to as an “eat, sleep card” by the Army, which falls in line with EU and AETR rules on drivers’ hours.
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Drempels:
What’s the score with them? Do they come under C&U regs like civilian ones? Can the ministry pull them over and prohibit them? Do they come under tacho rules when on normal duties?
If they are on those “special” number plates they have I would say no, no and no. But really I have no more idea than you 
I do know they are exempt from any toll charges and any of the SLS 's (that’s Stupid London Schemes) I think they are now, at least partly, subject to HSE legislation so that might affect the driving hours thing ?
Used to be exempt from parking penalties…There are some amusing stories around regarding London.
Wheel Nut:
I’m only guessing but doubt the ministry have any jurisdiction, it’s not like they are competing in hire and reward markets.
Oh yes they are, they are competing with the Yanks, French & British, Saudi etc etc to start illegal wars all over the world …
Something else that popped into my mind. Say there were foreign troops on excercise with our army, and their lorry was on a motorway with an obviously dangerous defect. Would it get pulled into a checkpoint and “detained”? Would it cause a diplomatic incident?
In an RDC waiting room, and I my imagination is running wild as I attempt to avoid eye-contact with anyone, lest they cone a bay off
Drempels:
Something else that popped into my mind. Say there were foreign troops on exercise with our army, and their lorry was on a motorway with an obviously dangerous defect. Would it get pulled into a checkpoint and “detained”? Would it cause a diplomatic incident?
Why on earth would it? The “foreign troops” would probably be grateful for avoiding a more serious incident. “Nuns and Kittens Maimed by Runaway Wheel from French Army Lorry” would not make a good headline.
Santa:
Drempels:
Something else that popped into my mind. Say there were foreign troops on exercise with our army, and their lorry was on a motorway with an obviously dangerous defect. Would it get pulled into a checkpoint and “detained”? Would it cause a diplomatic incident?Why on earth would it? The “foreign troops” would probably be grateful for avoiding a more serious incident. “Nuns and Kittens Maimed by Runaway Wheel from French Army Lorry” would not make a good headline.
Because you’re detaining members of a foreign country’s military? Saying that, what if you had a lorry on CD plates, could they do the same?
raymundo:
Wheel Nut:
I’m only guessing but doubt the ministry have any jurisdiction, it’s not like they are competing in hire and reward markets.Oh yes they are, they are competing with the Yanks, French & British, Saudi etc etc to start illegal wars all over the world …
Politicians start wars.
Soldiers finish them.
■■■■!
Santa:
Drempels:
Something else that popped into my mind. Say there were foreign troops on exercise with our army, and their lorry was on a motorway with an obviously dangerous defect. Would it get pulled into a checkpoint and “detained”? Would it cause a diplomatic incident?Why on earth would it? The “foreign troops” would probably be grateful for avoiding a more serious incident. “Nuns and Kittens Maimed by Runaway Wheel from French Army Lorry” would not make a good headline.
Seriously? Editors would LOVE to run a headline like that! It would be right up there with the other greats, like 'Freddie Star ate my hamster!
Some of the newer fleet has tacho in them but you don’t use it. Once a year you’re given a load of logbooks to fill out and you spend the day making ■■■■ up. I was never pulled by vosa but when I was based in Germany I was pulled by their transport police and at the port in France when driving back to uk.
Drempels:
Santa:
Drempels:
Something else that popped into my mind. Say there were foreign troops on exercise with our army, and their lorry was on a motorway with an obviously dangerous defect. Would it get pulled into a checkpoint and “detained”? Would it cause a diplomatic incident?Why on earth would it? The “foreign troops” would probably be grateful for avoiding a more serious incident. “Nuns and Kittens Maimed by Runaway Wheel from French Army Lorry” would not make a good headline.
Because you’re detaining members of a foreign country’s military? Saying that, what if you had a lorry on CD plates, could they do the same?
From the tiny bit of knowledge I have regarding trucks with CD plates I understand that the truck has diplomatic immunity and cannot be opened or interfered with, but it can be stopped and it does need to complete customs formalities but the T forms/carnets etc will say “goods” and no value disclosed. However the driver(s) do not have any such immunity so are in a much weaker position.
Maybe somebody with deeper knowledge can put us right.
Thanks chaps! Had an afternoon of wondering on the M1, now I know! 
lee.martin68:
The simple answer is YES if tachograph equipment is fitted for example, if the fleet is operated by a civilian Haulage company like FTX in accordance with the Operators licence. If the fleet is owned and operated by the MOD then Soldiers, Sailors and Airman do not require a tachograph or equivalent. What there do have is a log book, referred to as an “eat, sleep card” by the Army, which falls in line with EU and AETR rules on drivers’ hours.Sent from my ASUS Chromebook Flip C302 using Tapatalk
Unless CO overrides the eat sleep card. Also reservist drivers who are also civvy drivers can work as a HGV driver all week, drive an SV all weekend, then dive his civvy vehicle all week. I think.
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Yes OP they are regulated by tacho rules, so if there at the battlefield once it hits 9hours its game and they have to park up regardless of rocket launchers getting shot at them.
TruckDriverBen:
Yes OP they are regulated by tacho rules, so if there at the battlefield once it hits 9hours its game and they have to park up regardless of rocket launchers getting shot at them.
Twenty years ago, I’d have raised a smile at that. Now I’m inclined to find out if it’s actually true.
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Unless CO overrides the eat sleep card. Also reservist drivers who are also civvy drivers can work as a HGV driver all week, drive an SV all weekend, then dive his civvy vehicle all week. I think.
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If memory serves me right, it has got to the Brigade commander who authorises suspension of the card. I remember when the war fighting stopped in Iraq (2003), we had to revert to the eat sleep cards. Was a bloody joke.
madmackem:
Unless CO overrides the eat sleep card. Also reservist drivers who are also civvy drivers can work as a HGV driver all week, drive an SV all weekend, then dive his civvy vehicle all week. I think.
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If memory serves me right, it has got to the Brigade commander who authorises suspension of the card. I remember when the war fighting stopped in Iraq (2003), we had to revert to the eat sleep cards. Was a bloody joke.
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Hmm. Interesting. Maybe its de jure the CO, him having the powers of a magistrate, etc… But in practice, it requires a one star, for arrse-covering reasons.
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madmackem:
Unless CO overrides the eat sleep card. Also reservist drivers who are also civvy drivers can work as a HGV driver all week, drive an SV all weekend, then dive his civvy vehicle all week. I think.
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If memory serves me right, it has got to the Brigade commander who authorises suspension of the card. I remember when the war fighting stopped in Iraq (2003), we had to revert to the eat sleep cards. Was a bloody joke.
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Hmm. Interesting. Maybe its de jure the CO, him having the powers of a magistrate, etc… But in practice, it requires a one star, for arrse-covering reasons.
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I never knew that, about CO/Magistrate powers. Do other ranks have other powers too?