Met “Pop” on my first trip in '75, I was on my way to Baghdad and if I remember correctly, Pop was on for Oryx.
Found this on internet,used on middle east runs in the 70’s and fitted with a 220 roller, not sure if it has been posted before and apologies to who’s photo it is, Cheer’s Pete
pete smith:
Found this on internet,used on middle east runs in the 70’s and fitted with a 220 roller, not sure if it has been posted before and apologies to who’s photo it is, Cheer’s Pete
Yes! I posted this pic (not mine, BTW) along with an article all about it, on PAGE 9 of this thread. Cheers, Robert
robert1952:
pete smith:
Found this on internet,used on middle east runs in the 70’s and fitted with a 220 roller, not sure if it has been posted before and apologies to who’s photo it is, Cheer’s PeteYes! I posted this pic (not mine, BTW) along with an article all about it, on PAGE 9 of this thread. Cheers, Robert
Sorry about that Robert,thought i’d seen it but could not remember were,would you have fancied being the pilot on that doing the ME?
pete smith:
robert1952:
pete smith:
Found this on internet,used on middle east runs in the 70’s and fitted with a 220 roller, not sure if it has been posted before and apologies to who’s photo it is, Cheer’s PeteYes! I posted this pic (not mine, BTW) along with an article all about it, on PAGE 9 of this thread. Cheers, Robert
Sorry about that Robert,thought i’d seen it but could not remember were,would you have fancied being the pilot on that doing the ME?
I might if it had Fuller in it! Mind you, if that 2nd steering axle didn’t lift I wouldn’t have wanted to go over the Bulgarian and Turkish mountains in the snow with it. Cheers Pete! Robert
robert1952:
pete smith:
robert1952:
pete smith:
Found this on internet,used on middle east runs in the 70’s and fitted with a 220 roller, not sure if it has been posted before and apologies to who’s photo it is, Cheer’s PeteYes! I posted this pic (not mine, BTW) along with an article all about it, on PAGE 9 of this thread. Cheers, Robert
Sorry about that Robert,thought i’d seen it but could not remember were,would you have fancied being the pilot on that doing the ME?
I might if it had Fuller in it! Mind you, if that 2nd steering axle didn’t lift I wouldn’t have wanted to go over the Bulgarian and Turkish mountains in the snow with it. Cheers Pete! Robert
Robert the second steer did have an early type of weight transfer system it was just a switch and only drove one a few times and never had to use it so it is hard to recall exactly how it worked.
The 6x2 roadtrain had an air dump for the second steer and they were very good in snowy conditions as I never got stuck with a roadtrain when over 4x2 wagons were slithering about
cheers Johnnie
sammyopisite:
I might if it had Fuller in it! Mind you, if that 2nd steering axle didn’t lift I wouldn’t have wanted to go over the Bulgarian and Turkish mountains in the snow with it. Cheers Pete! Robert
Robert the second steer did have an early type of weight transfer system it was just a switch and only drove one a few times and never had to use it so it is hard to recall exactly how it worked.
The 6x2 roadtrain had an air dump for the second steer and they were very good in snowy conditions as I never got stuck with a roadtrain when over 4x2 wagons were slithering about
cheers Johnnie
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I’d forgotten about those air-dump switches! Twin-steer Merc 2033s had them IIRC. Robert
HI Robert how right you are about the twin steer I drove a DAF, 95 I think, A38 not a space cab, once empty in MARDRID I was told to go and load MILKY BAR BUTTONS. it was a NESTLE JOB at a place south of IRUN ,WHEN loaded you went back along the coast to IRUN.
I took the only road from BURGOS up the mountain and down it than ran straight into the place, a small town, the name has gone, however the road was so steep and horrendous turns, a narrow d class road, no matter how slow i went, that twin steer never stopped bouncing and shuddering ,it just took the traction away.
if it had a dump I would have used it I do not remember .After that nothing ever came close .
deckboypeggy:
HI Robert how right you are about the twin steer I drove a DAF, 95 I think, A38 not a space cab, once empty in MARDRID I was told to go and load MILKY BAR BUTTONS. it was a NESTLE JOB at a place south of IRUN ,WHEN loaded you went back along the coast to IRUN.I took the only road from BURGOS up the mountain and down it than ran straight into the place, a small town, the name has gone, however the road was so steep and horrendous turns, a narrow d class road, no matter how slow i went, that twin steer never stopped bouncing and shuddering ,it just took the traction away.
if it had a dump I would have used it I do not remember .After that nothing ever came close .
I think I know where you mean, DBP. I loaded car batteries in a place of that description once. Robert
Gentlemen
Are you perhaps referring to Nestlé in Penilla de Cayón ?
Cheers
David
pete smith:
Spiers and Hartwell photo from Kelly Trucks
That was a tidy looking outfit.
Article from truck magazine 1979.Click on page to read,click again to magnify.
DEANB:
pete smith:
Spiers and Hartwell photo from Kelly TrucksThat was a tidy looking outfit.
Article from truck magazine 1979.Click on page to read,click again to magnify.
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Talk about can’t swim dive into the deepend you’ll soon learn ! 
Wonder what he’s upto now !!! Interesting article tho !
Lots of my ‘Non Astran’ stories over on the Simon International thread,
Pics as i find them, all '74-'78,
Maybe someone remembers me? or maybe not,
Found this advert whilst looking through an old 1976 commercial motor magazine.
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DEANB:
Found this advert whilst looking through an old 1976 commercial motor magazine.
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Good Company, Very professional, i ran with them many times and even pulled their trailers, one of the stalwarts of Middle East, oft forgotten
skipvitesse:
DEANB:
Found this advert whilst looking through an old 1976 commercial motor magazine.
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They had some good tackle.
When they gave up m/e, a firm I was working for had one of their trailers that I had for a while.
Jenson:
Trans uk from Felixstowe Suffolk .3
wow my old man bought one of these - was his first truck with a night heater, and also the first truck I drove sat on his knee.
If you want to sit back and see a really good Middle-East slide show, just click on the link below, which takes you to Toprun’s Robert Dods Brown / Chapman & Ball selection. Damned good pics! Robert