Max hours for two employers, and logging

I have a full time job which does not involve any driving what so ever, but it is shift work.
and then on my days off I’ve started doing some driving for a agency.

Do I have to make a manual entry on every time I put my digi card in to show my other job?
do I need to just right it all in a Book or get a official log book? if so where do I get one?

Is what i’m doing Legal? some places say yes make the entries but I might not drive again for 2 weeks? which means that doing the entries could take a hour or more! :open_mouth:

hoping for some clarity on this. as I have been told a multitude of things, like just note it all down in a little book, too show hours worked, or just note your hours of rest. or don’t bother, just don’t mention your other job. i’m worried I may get a heavy fine if stopped.

My shifts work sort of like this.

Mon 0800- 1800 FT job 10hrs
Tue 0800- 1800 FT job 10hrs
wed 0800- 1800 FT job 10hrs
Thur 0800- 1800 FT job 10hrs
fri off- rest
sat off-rest
sun driving 0800- 1900 agency 11hrs

Mon driving 0800- 1900 agency 11hrs
Tue 0800- 1800 FT job 10hrs
wed 0800- 1800 FT job 10hrs
Thur 0800- 1800 FT job 10hrs
Fri 0800- 1800 FT Job 10hrs
Sat off-rest
sun off-rest

Mon driving 0800-1900 agency 11hrs
tue driving 0800-1900 agency 11hrs
wed 0800- 1800 FT job 10hrs
Thur 0800- 1800 FT job 10hrs
Fri 0800- 1800 FT Job 10hrs
sat 0800-1800 FT Job 10hrs
sun off - rest

Mon off -Rest …… and so on, my Full time work is basically a 4 on 4 off system.
thanks for reading

Legally an official record must be made for each day in a week where you came under EU regs and the easiest way is to use one analogue card for each day with name date start and finish time on it - after 29 days those cards can be binned
No EU regs driving in any fixed week = no other records needed for that week

I see no legal EU regs issues in your shift pattern so far but if you keep doing 6 on 2 off then eventually you will come to a fixed week where there will not be a weekly rest which can be used for it

Thanks Rog.

from that I also take it that I do not have to input all my hours into the tacho then when i re insert my card.

I was just looking at the driver hour guard, and wondered if that may help me.

The weeks where I may fall short on the weekly rest I will only do 1 day for the agency.

hoping i’ve got this right now. :question:

Hitower:
Thanks Rog.

from that I also take it that I do not have to input all my hours into the tacho then when i re insert my card.

I was just looking at the driver hour guard, and wondered if that may help me.

The weeks where I may fall short on the weekly rest I will only do 1 day for the agency.

hoping i’ve got this right now. :question:

Official records can be individual analogue cards - inputting into a digi or using digi printouts for manual entries - a combination of all 3 is fine so no need to spend loads of time trying to manually input into a digi

Taking 3 days off in a row every so often where part of those covers a sunday midnight usually sorts out any issues
3 days off as above can be used as a regular and reduced in one go

One more thing - the non driving job is under the normal WTD and the driving job is under the RTD - the two do not get added together for RTD and the normal WTD can be opted out of in full = no worries there :smiley: