MARITIME-Second hand motors?

Has anybody bought a used truck from Maritime, if so ,was it a good experience and did you get value for money ?
I’ve had a look at some of their adds and was wondering why some of their ‘used trucks’ which are for sale are nearly new compared to the motors I see on the road which are older. I thought the older ones would be for sale (unless these are owner/drivers).
If you have a successful business, why sell 1 year old trucks through your ‘used truck division’ when they should be earning you money on the road ?
Or do they only keep their trucks for 1-2 years and then sell on to owner drivers with a container contract ?
Any relevant info would be appreciated as I might be in the market for a motor and would like to know how a trader like this opperates. (I’m not buying for container work,I just need the truck).

Don’t get a motor from them as they vastly inflate the prices. :open_mouth:

Hanbury Riverside also have a used truck outlet selling new expensive finance.

Rob K:
Don’t get a motor from them as they vastly inflate the prices. :open_mouth:

Would price be the only downside of their motors ?

It says ERF not RAF:

Rob K:
Don’t get a motor from them as they vastly inflate the prices. :open_mouth:

Would price be the only downside of their motors ?

And the silly priced finance deals, as Malc says above.

From previous posts on here from people who have dealt with them, the motors are usually in excellent order and well looked after. I think it was Paul (Tramper) who got a SSC from Maritime and he was chuffed with it. Might be worth belling him for more info.

Didn’t Paul B get an ex big box co. Mega Space too? :confused:

I’m sure the answer is tax related but,here go’s. With the exchange rate in your favour wouldn’t it be worthwhile buyin a unit in Ireland. I noticed that prices are the same , roughly speaking what will cost you 50k sterling over there will be 50k euro over here. Now you wouldn’t have near as much choice but there’s always the possibility of goin new. I can give you a few examples like a 430 stralis 4x2 is 75k . Or a 460 xf spaecab is 85k.

ellies dad:
I’m sure the answer is tax related but,here go’s. With the exchange rate in your favour wouldn’t it be worthwhile buyin a unit in Ireland. I noticed that prices are the same , roughly speaking what will cost you 50k sterling over there will be 50k euro over here. Now you wouldn’t have near as much choice but there’s always the possibility of goin new. I can give you a few examples like a 430 stralis 4x2 is 75k . Or a 460 xf spaecab is 85k.

I’m looking at the draw-bars. They more or less are to the spec I need, the only problem is they are a bit thin on the ground, so I’m limited with choice.

Rob K:
From previous posts on here from people who have dealt with them, the motors are usually in excellent order and well looked after. I think it was Paul (Tramper) who got a SSC from Maritime and he was chuffed with it. Might be worth belling him for more info.

Didn’t Paul B get an ex big box co. Mega Space too? :confused:

My DAF 95XF SSC didn’t come from Maritime, but I am chuffed with it. I bought it at 3 years old. It’s an immaculate 53 plate 6x2 with 350,000Km, from Chassis Cab DAF of Ipswich, for 36K . Its had a couple of problems, the oil cooler burst internally, and the tachograph packed up the other day.
I know a guy who bought a Scania off of Maritime, and he seems to be quite happy with it. As for the cost or finace deals, I have no idea what they are, but I would imagine that theres more lorries out there than there are buyers, so good deals are probably available.

Rob K:
Didn’t Paul B get an ex big box co. Mega Space too? :confused:

His was ex Deben I think, but he didn’t get it direct from one of their sales arms, I think it came from EVS near Scunny.

Paul

Tramper:
I would imagine that theres more lorries out there than there are buyers, so good deals are probably available.

If you believe Commercial Motor, late registered analogue tacho equipped trucks are in very short supply so they might not be as cheap as you think.

Paul

That suprises me, but I guess people are trying to avoid the ill fated digital tacho debarcle.

I have a good friend who’s W-reg Scania has just been revalued at 3 grand more than last year purely because it’s analogue equipped, which would back up what Paul says above.

Lucy:
I have a good friend who’s W-reg Scania has just been revalued at 3 grand more than last year purely because it’s analogue equipped, which would back up what Paul says above.

I just cannot understand that unless it’s because some folk are prepared to pay more for a truck in which it is easier to fiddle the tacho.

I hope you understand that I was in no way meaning to say that Paul’s post was inacurate, it just suprised me, thats all.
What is people’s opinion on these digital tachos, i have never had one, an have no intention of even getting a card. Are they as bad as the valuation of 3K extra on a analogue equipped vehicle would suggest?

Harry Monk:
I just cannot understand that unless it’s because some folk are prepared to pay more for a truck in which it is easier to fiddle the tacho.

I think it is a lot to do with people not liking change, also the digital tacho seems to have had more than its fair share of problems, add this to having to equip yourself with card readers and computer programs etc and to me the digital tacho is not very appealing.

bulmers im told will be selling their 07 ssc 105,s and due to the lead times of new dafs bulmers are going to make a profit on em ie selling for more than what they paid for em,with digitach and analogue i think its down to the gear you need to use the digitach ,you need to by the software then the card readers then the cards all of which are expensive and if you have a fleet of motors that have analogue tachos and you buy one with a digitacho all of you drivers have to have a digicard which is more expense and hassle

In my opinion, no, they aren’t that bad, Tramper. But then I “weaned myself off” tipping and loading off the card and driving to the chippy after hours etc. etc. a long time ago now. If I hadn’t, and I hadn’t the patience to work out how to stop the Digi-tach robbing me of time unnecessarily, I can see how some would find it a serious culture shock.

The truck in question is a very well kept and maintained Topliner and would be potentially sold on into the O/d market, so draw your own conclusions. I suspect Harry has hit the nail square on the head. :wink:

ETA - The same friend looked at going Digi when his analogue tacho died, not long before the change in the law. Buying the card readers and software plus the cost of equipping himself and his other driver with Digicards (he’s good like that) wasn’t an unmanageable expense - “peanuts” was the word he used - but to upgrade all the wiring looms etc. etc. in a Scania of that age to take Digi would have been several grand, so he stayed analogue. Given the value rise of the motor, that was a good call on his part.

Tramper:
What is people’s opinion on these digital tachos, i have never had one, an have no intention of even getting a card. Are they as bad as the valuation of 3K extra on a analogue equipped vehicle would suggest?

From a driver’s point of view other than the fact that you get robbed of a few minutes of driving time if there’s a lot of stop/start involved I find they’re a lot easier to use than analogue. Certainly not having to write your name and such in small writing on a tacho card at 5am in the winter when it’s several degrees below and your fingers aren’t working properly is a bonus for me.

From an operators point of view although obviously I don’t have any personal experience I wouldn’t think they’re too bad. Tachodisc sell the readers for 30-odd quid and then the software for a bit more on top of that, but once you have it then (if you have the right software) you can do all your tacho analysis yourself so you’ll save money in the long run on sending the cards off to be done.

Personally I think people wanting the late analogue trucks is just a fear of change and little more. Everyone is going to have to go digital eventually so it’s probably just as easy to bite the bullet now rather than pay over the odds for an older truck.

Paul

Carl:
bulmers im told will be selling their 07 ssc 105,s and due to the lead times of new dafs

,with digitach and analogue i think its down to the gear you need to use the digitach ,you need to by the software then the card readers then the cards all of which are expensive and if you have a fleet of motors that have analogue tachos and you buy one with a digitacho all of you drivers have to have a digicard which is more expense and hassle

I think this is more likely the reason for people selling newish trucks, Almost all manufacturers seem to have lead times of about a year, but a big haulier will always have trucks on the production line so will get a constant supply, so it make sense to try and sell units to smaller hauliers who can’t get a new truck at a profit.

Hi guys,

The reason why Maritime runs some older trucks while selling the newer ones is because the older trucks are on 4 or 5 year contract hire deals which is how they used to get new trucks. Most of their trucks are now bought outright and they sell them so soon because they actually sell them for what they have paid for them. Because Maritime have such huge buying power, they get huge discounts. The same works for Hanbury, the MANs and Mercs are usually contract hire over 3 years, but the DAFs and Volvo’s you see for sale at Riverside are all purchased outright, Hanbury might buy say 50 at a time, they then use them for a year, or rent them out to Goldstar, CSM etc then they sell them for what they paid for them, sometimes even making profit out of them. So they are effectively getting brand new trucks for free for a year!! Or, in the case of when they rent them to Goldstar etc, they make money on them whilst they are rented, then sell them for a profit!!!

Hope this clears things up!

Aaron