robroy:
Yet another atrocity carried out in the name of this ‘peaceful religion’ we keep hearing about
Look at Thomas Mair, who killed the MP whilst shouting “Death to traitors, freedom for Britain”, you wouldn’t say he represents Britain, even if he sees himself as fighting for it, or even if people are sympathetic to his cause if not his means (and certainly wouldn’t contemplate those means themselves).
That’s the case with the majority of Muslims. They are sympathetic to the cause to varying degrees, they are not sympathetic to the means, although like in Ireland if you go in and start harrying the peaceful population, or if you ignore the underlying demands for too long, people will eventually become increasingly sympathetic to the means of what becomes a guerrilla war.
How can any human being just callously plough into innocent people, and worse still young chidren, without a hint of basic human empathy.
It’s saddening, and I was particularly struck by Hollande mentioning how it happened on France’s national day of celebration, but also worth remembering that it’s happening on the other side too in other countries, as a result of wars waged by us, by France, by others. Children are being shot, blown to bits, bombed in their sleep, and British politicians still dare to say it’s all justified because Saddam killed some people himself (or Gadaffi, etc.).
We’ve heard just recently about how teenagers were forced into, or thrown into, rivers in Iraq by soldiers, and so killed because they couldn’t swim. There are said to have been dozens of cases of such deaths.
It’s reported there are in excess of 11000 suspects on the French Government’s watch list, and those are the ones they actually know about
Because they’re looking for needles in haystacks, or probably more precisely spits of steam from a pan of water coming to the boil (because that more accurately captures how ordinary water turns to burning steam if heat is applied, and turns back to water if not, and the individual molecules constantly churn and change potential).
How many do you reckon are in the UK, we either have an efficient Intelligence agency that has stopped many threats before they happen, or we have just been lucky for the last 10 years since 7/7.
I suspect this attack will have given people ideas. None of us will be able to go on any sort of public march or gathering anymore without looking for the exit in case a lorry comes steaming through.
If there are suspects on our ‘watch list’ why are they not instantly deported if they can not behave themselves in our country
Because many suspects have not in fact done anything - I imagine you’d get on a suspect list if a kingpin rings the wrong number from his mobile and gets through to you (at least until, and unless, an intelligence analyst was able to detect the mistake and rule you back out). If we could be sure the “suspect” population contained only criminals and nobody else, they wouldn’t be suspects - we’d be home dry.
who tf would miss these bastds.■■ or at least have an internment policy as in WW2, but the limp wristed right on lefties would not have that, they would rather have them living among us 'intigrating,…yeh right !
Or internment as in Northern Ireland in 1971?
The ones that can behave themselves, whether first or second generation immigrants, are welcome in my opinion, not a problem, as I have no rascist belefs or predjudices, but as has been said they must come out en masse, and be seen to do so , to condemn these religious headcases that are causing so many atrocities in the name of a fantasy religion. ( not biased btw, all religion is fantasy imo )
What do you expect most of them to say? That the troubles in the Middle East (or the other grievances that touch Muslim communities) must be resolved, but that they reject terrorism? Most of them are saying that already, and the powers that be don’t want them given any more attention, because they won’t reject terrorism without mentioning the grievances, and so it only draws attention to our dirty linen.
Ghandi rejected violence, but there was still a great deal of violence offered by other groups with the same agenda, and most importantly, Ghandi eventually got his way, and yet we still have Hilary Benn standing up in Parliament and openly advocating more war. The French are just as bad themselves.